Shocker Prelude – Live Stream

Shocker Prelude – Live Stream

>> CAPTIONS WILL APPEAR HERE ) >> GOOD AFTERNOON

AND WELCOME IN TO THE 10th ANNUAL SHOCKER PRELUDE INSIDE A WARM AND COZY HESKETT CENTER I'M JOINED BY COOPER HANNING AND JENNY PINKSTON LET'S START WITH YOU BOTH OF YOU ARE FORMER ATHLETES TELL THE PEOPLE ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU DID AS A HURDLER HERE

>> Cooper: ABSOLUTELY I COMPETED FROM 2007 TO 2012 HERE UNDER COACH BOLT AND COACH WISE I WAS RECRUITED TO DO THE MULTI-EVENTS IN THE DECATHLON AND THEN MIGRATED OVER TO THE HURDLES AND THE 60 HURDLES AND 110s AND 400 HURDLES DEFINITELY ENJOYED MYSELF HERE >> Will: SO WHILE COOPER WAS A ONE TRICK PONY, JENNY, YOU DID A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING

YOU WERE A MULTI-ATHLETE >> Jenny: I DID I WAS A JUMP SPECIALIST AS WELL SO THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITES, LONG JUMP AND I DID IT FOR FIVE YEARS AND MY SEASON WAS CUT SHORT DUE TO — SEASON YEAR DUE TO NAVICULAR FRACTURE

IT WAS NOT FUN AND UDON'T WISH THAT UPON ANY ATHLETE EVER I ENJOYED MY TIME HERE GLAD TO BE BACK >> Will: TOAD YOU'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING A — LOT OF ATHLETES AND PEOPLE YOU COMPETED WITH WHAT'S IT LIKE TO BE UP HERE AND SEE THIS HAPPENING ONLY A YEAR REMOVED FROM THE SPORT? >> Jenny: IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK FOR SURE

THEY MOVED CONFERENCES AND EVERYTHING IT'S GREAT TO SEE HOW THEY'RE CHANGING AND DEVELOPING AND HOW THEY CONTINUE TO GROW EVEN AFTER WE GRADUATE >> Will: THE TENTH YEAR OF THIS EVENT GOING ON HERE AT HESKETT CENTER WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER FROM YOUR TIME GOING THROUGH THIS? >> Cooper: I THINK IT'S JUST THE CHANGE THAT HAS HAPPENED FROM THE LEVEL OF ATHLETE THAT WAS HERE WHEN I WAS HERE I WAS NOTHING SPECIAL

JA DON'T SAY THAT >> Cooper: I WAS AROUND A LOT OF SPECIAL ATHLETES >> Will: I THINK YOU'RE VERY SPECIAL >> Cooper: THANK YOU, WILL JUST SEEING HOW WE'VE GROWN AS A TEAM FROM WHAT WE WERE TO NOW BEING ABLE TO DOMINATE THE CONFERENCE CONSISTENTLY AND MOVING TO THE AAC, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE OUR TALENTS

>> Will: TALK ABOUT THE AAC HOW BIG OF A STEP IS THAT FOR VIEWER — VIEWERS THAT MAY NOT KNOW? >> Jenny: WELL, AS TRACK AND FIELD IS CONCERNED, WE SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE ON THE GUYS' SIDE TO STILL BE PRETTY DOMINANT AND WE'VE HAD STRONG TRACK TEAMS WE HAVE A LOT OF DEPTH SO I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE THAT MUCH OF A HUGE SETBACK OR ANYTHING

I THINK IT WILL PUSH US FORWARD AND OUR PROGRAM WILL GROW BECAUSE OF IT >> Will: YEAH SO MUCH OF THE TALK, THAT MOVE OF CONFERENCE, SO MUCH TALK IS AROUND MEN'S BASKETBALL RIGHTFULLY SO BECAUSE THEY'RE A NATIONAL BRAND BUT IT DOES HAVE BIG IMPLICATIONS FOR THE TRACK AND FIELD TEAM AS WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPETING ON A HIGHER NATIONAL LEVEL AS WELL

>> Cooper: YEAH I THINK WHAT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE, BASKETBALL IS CLEARLY THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE SCHOOL, AND THAT'S GREAT BUT PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW DOMINANT THE TRACK TEAM IS HERE OBVIOUSLY BASEBALL IS VERY DOMINANT AS WELL BUT THE TRACK TEAM HAS CONSISTENTLY DOMINATED CONFERENCE IN THE NBC UNDER COACH BOLT AND SEEING THAT DEVELOP OVER THE YEARS AND THEN MOVING INTO THE AAC, THERE'S REALLY A FEW TEAMS THAT I CAN LOOK AT AND GO THEY MIGHT BE BETTER

AND SO UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON BEING ONE OF THEM, AND THEN THERE'S A FEW OTHERS OUT THERE AND I THINK THE LADIES MIGHT STRUGGLE SOME THIS YEAR BUT WE'LL SEE >> Will: WE'LL BREAK THAT DOWN WE'VE GOT FIVE HOURS TO TALK ABOUT EVERY TOPIC YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK ABOUT

HIT US UP ON TWITTER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST LET US KNOW IF YOU — ARE YOU ON TWITTER? >> Jenny: I AM GENPINK 25 >> JENPINK 25

>> Will: JUST HIT US UP COOPER IS NOT ON THERE THAT'S TOO BAD FIELD EVENTS HAPPENED EARLIER TODAY I BELIEVE WE CAN GET TO SOME OF THOSE RESULTS THAT HAPPENED

COOPER, WHAT HAVE YOU TAKEN AWAY FOR SOME OF THE FIELD EVENTS YOU SAW THIS MORNING? >> Cooper: WELL, FIELD EVENTS STARTED AROUND 10:30 THIS MORNING SO WE'RE GOING TO CATCH YOU UP-TO-DATE WITH SOME OF THOSE RESULTS WE'LL GET THOSE HERE IN A MINUTE BUT WE'VE SEEN THE THROW FROM THE WOMEN'S WAS WON BY L EXANDREA ADAMS HAD WON THAT EVENT WE'LL GET THE DISTANCES HERE PRETTY SOON

BUT SHE WAS COMPETING UNATTACHED WHAT YOU'LL SEE TODAY — >> Will: HERE IS THE MEN'S SIDE SALINE OF OTTAWA HERE'S THE WOMEN'S SIDE JADEN DAMON

SHE'S COMPETING UNATTACHED TODAY TELL THE PEOPLE WHAT UNATTACHED MEANS AND HOW THAT WORKS, BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE IS COMPETING TODAY AFFILIATED WITH A UNIVERSITY >> Cooper: YEAH SO IF YOU'RE AN ATHLETE, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER RED SHIRT A YEAR, AS YOU KNOW, AND A WAY TO CONTINUE COMPETING BUT NOT TAKE THE CREDIT FROM A SCORED MEET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND STILL GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE, YOU WOULD COMPETE UNATTACHED YOU'LL SEE ATHLETES TODAY ESPECIALLY ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE FOR WICHITA STATE WEARING A DIFFERENT COLORED SHIRT OR WHATEVER THEY REALLY WANT AND COMPETING IN THOSE CONVENIENTS JUST TO STAY UP — COMPETING IN THOSE EVENTS JUST TO STAY UP AND COMPETITIVE

AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THE WOMEN REBUILDING THIS YEAR, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO LATER BUT YOU'LL SEE MAINLY TODAY A LOT OF THE WSU LADIES COMPETING UNATTACHED >> Will: HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT, JENNY, FOR AN ATHLETE TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE AS AN UNATTACHED, VERY QUICKLY, HOW IMPORTANT, JUST TO STAY IN THE MIX? >> Jenny: RIGHT WELL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO STAY COMPETITIVE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE NOT PART OF A TEAM SO YOU DON'T LOSE THAT COMPETITIVE EDGE WHILE YOU'RE SITTING OUT

SO I THINK THAT COMPETING UNATTACHED GIVES THE ATHLETE GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE — STAY STRONG MENTALLY, HAVE A COMPETITIVE EDGE, YEAH, THROUGHOUT THE SEASON >> Will: YEAH BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU KIND OF GET — >> Jenny: YOU GET LAZY SOMETIMES JA DISTRACTED ON THE SIDELINE YOU DON'T WANT TO COME OUT AND EMBARRASS YOURSELF

COOPER, JENNY AND MYSELF WILL BE BACK IN JUST A FEW MINUTES HERE AGAIN, HIT US UP ON TWITTER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THESE MESSAGES >> Will: ALL RIGHT I APOLOGIZE

AS OUR SET HAS GOT AN LITTLE LESS ATTRACTIVE, JOHN WISE, COACH WITH WICHITA STATE'S TRACK AND FIELD TEAM STILL COOPER HANNING WE'VE ALLOWED HIM TO STAY THROUGHOUT THIS SEGMENT COACH, WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN THROUGHOUT THE FIELD EVENTS, THE ONES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH? WE'VE FINISHED WITH THE WEIGHT THROUGH, LONG JUNCTION HIGH JUMP, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE SHOT PUT AND VOLE PAUL AND TRIPLE JUMP TO GO >> SO FAR I THINK IT'S BEEN A GOOD START TO THE MEET

WE DO HAVE A LOT OF ATHLETES COMPETING UNATTACHED TODAY WE HAVE ATHLETES RED SHIRTED, COMPETING UNATTACHED BOTH ATHLETES IN UNIFORM AND UNATTACHED WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD PERFORMANCES A COUPLE PERSONAL RECORDS ALREADY THIS MORNING AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD

A LOT OF YOUNG ATHLETES THAT WE'VE RECRUITED IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THAT A MEET LIKE THIS IS GOOD THERE'S SOME ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT LEVELS OF COMPETITION AT THIS MEET SO SOME OF THOSE FRESHMEN, IT'S A GOOD WAY TO GET THEIR FEET WET IN COLLEGIATE TRACK AND FIELD SATURDAY WE HAVE A BIGGER MEET WITH KU AND K-STATE THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO GET A LITTLE TASTE OF COLLEGE TRACK AND THEN WE GO UP AGAINST BETTER COMPETITION SATURDAY

SO SO FAR IT'S BEEN A GOOD MORNING >> Will: AS A COACH, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FROM TO GAIN FOR THESE UNATTACHED ATHLETES VERSUS THE ONES COMPETING WITH THE UNIVERSITY TODAY? >> THE ONES COMPETING WITH THE UNIFORM ON, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM READY FOR THIS YEAR TO COMPETE AND HOPEFULLY SCORE POINTS AT THE AMERICAN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS THAT'S — THIS IS THE FIRST MEET IN THAT STEP FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE UNATTACHED, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE COMPETING IN THOSE CHAMPIONSHIPS, SO MAYBE WORKING ON SOMETHING, MAYBE TECHNICALLY WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON CERTAIN EVENTS MAYBE WE'RE DOING A NEW EVENT FOR SOME OF THOSE ATHLETES

MAYBE WE'RE GOING TO TRAIN HARDER AND NOT FOCUS ON THE MEETS AS MUCH AND DURING THE WEEK SO IT IS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT BUT ALL THE ATHLETES ARE EXCITED TO COMPETE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPETING HARD TODAY THAT'S FOR SURE

>> Cooper: COACH, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MEET ON SATURDAY AND THAT'S — THAT WILL BE IN MANHATTAN AT K-STATE? >> CORRECT >> Cooper: WHO IS COMPETING IN THAT MEET? >> THAT'S A TRIANGULAR WITH WICHITA STATE, KANSAS AND KANSAS STATE IT WAS HERE LAST YEAR IT'S AN INTERSTATE DIVISION I RIVALRY THAT WE STARTED FOUR YEARS AGO

THERE'S ACTUALLY COACH RAINBOLT'S IDEA SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN WITH THAT MEET AND KIND OF AN EARLY SEASON TEST TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AS A TEAM AND IT'S A LIMITED ROSTER 26 ATHLETES ON THE MEN AND 26 ON THE WOMEN COMPETE AND SO WE'RE EXCITED

WE HOPE WE HAVE A BIG CROWD FOLLOW US UP TO MANHATTAN TO HOPEFULLY WIN THE MEET >> Will: IT SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY BIG DEAL TO HAVE THOSE THREE MAJOR UNIVERSITIES COMPETING ALL TOGETHER AS A LOT OF FANS KNOW IN SEPARATE SPORTS, YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET THEM ON THE SAME FIELD OR SAME VIM TO PLAY EACH OTHER BUT YOU GUYS MANAGE TO DO IT IN TRACK AND FIELD YOU THINK YOU CAN INFLUENCE SOME OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS AND PROGRAMS? >> WE HAVE VERY LITTLE INFLUENCE ON PROGRAMS

[ LAUGHTER ] TRACK AND FIELD, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT IN TRACK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR YEARS EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE 12 YEARS AGO, WHEN I GOT HERE AND IT TOOK EIGHT YEARS TO GET THAT DONE MOSTLY IT'S JUST TRYING TO COORDINATE THE SCHEDULES IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO COMPETE AGAINST THEM OR THEY DON'T WANT TO COMPETE AGAINST US, TRACK AND FIELD

I THINK EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET GOOD COMPETITION ALL THE TIME IT'S JUST BEEN A MATTER OF WHAT'S THE RIGHT DATE I THINK WE ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT DATE IT'S AN EARLY SEASON MEET FOR THAT POWERFUL OF A MEET WE GET READY FOR THAT

>> Will: YOU GOT ONE? >> Cooper: YEAH I WAS GOING TO HAVE YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PRELUDE TO THESE OTHER TEAMS AS WELL I THINK WITH WICHITA STATE YOU MAYBE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE TO WICHITA STATE IN REGARDS TO THE SEASON BUT ALSO THESE OTHER TEAMS HOW WOULD THEY PLAY OUT IN THIS? >> YEAH

I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD TEAMS HERE FRIENDS UNIVERSITY IS A TEAM THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BEST TEAMS IN THE NAIA AT THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS OKLAHOMA BAPTIST HAS BEEN A TEAM THAT'S WON NATIONAL TITLES IN THE NAIA THEY'RE NOW A DIVISION II TEAM THEY TRANSITIONED INTO DIVISION II

EMPORIA STATE IS A REALLY GOOD DIVISION II TEAM THOSE TEAMS CIRCLE THIS MEET ON THEIR CALENDAR AS ONE OF THEIR BIG MEETS I KNOW TALKING TO COACH DAVIS AT FRIENDS, THEY SCORED OUT THE MEET ALREADY THEY KNOW WHERE THEY STACK UP, YOU KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO WIN THE MEET

AND IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR THEM AND BECAUSE TO COMPETE AGAINST US THEY GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER COMPETITION THAN THEY NORMALLY WOULD IN SOME OF THOSE MEETS SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM FROM THOSE — FROM THOSE SCHOOLS AND I THINK THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD ATHLETES SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GOOD COMPETITION >> Will: YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE SCHOOLS

THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE WICHITA STATE, WE HAVE EMPORIA STATE, OKLAHOMA BAPTIST OTTAWA, WHICH IS OUT OF ARIZONA THEY'RE JUST A SIX-MONTH-OLD SCHOOL AT THIS POINT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE LATER BEHAVE BUTLER AND FORT HAYS STATE ALL IN THE BUILDING TONIGHT

WHAT ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS OUT OF THIS MEET? >> WE'RE — THE TEAM SCORE IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT FOR US FOR THIS MEAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET OUR FEET WET WE'RE HOPING TO STAY HEALTHY WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE SOME GOOD PERSONAL RECORDS FOR ATHLETES TODAY >> Will: ARE YOU ON TWITTER? >> I AM

JOHN — >> Will: SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM, YOU CAN HIT HIM UP ON TWITTER WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET HIM ON TWITTER HE'S A LITTLE OUTDATED HE'S A FATHER NOW, SO HE'S A DAD, SO HE DOESN'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT TECHNOLOGY WE'LL GET HIM ON THERE

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH RESULTS AND WHAT'S COMING UP NEXT LATER IN THE TRACK EVENTS WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK >> DEJA YOUNG JOINING ME SHE'S FROM — >> Will: WELCOME BACK TO THE 10th ANNUAL SHOCKER PRELUDE HERE AT THE HESKETT CENTER RIGHT NOW WE'RE JOINED BY JENNY PINKSTON, WHO IS WITH DEJA YOUNG

JENNY >> Jenny: HI I'M — JOINING ME AND DEJA YOUNG FROM TEXAS SHE'S A SPRINTER SPECIALIST SHE'S A RED SHIRT JUNIOR

SO, DEJACKSON YOU RAN THE 60 METERS AT INTERSQUAD AND YOU'RE ABOUT TO RUN IT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE GETTING READY HOW DO YOU FEEL? DO YOU FEEL ANY DIFFERENT BETWEEN THEN AND NOW? >> I ACTUALLY FEEL MORE PREPARED I WAS STILL KIND OF PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER FOR INTERSQUAD NOW I FEEL EVERYTHING IS GLUED TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER

HOPEFULLY NOW THAT IT'S PULLED TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER IT COMES OUT AS A GOOD RESULT >> Jenny: VERY NICE SO IN 2016 DE >> Will: WAS A GOLD MEDALIST FOR THE — >> Jenny: DE >> Will: WAS A GOLD MEDALIST

WHICH IS YOUR FAVORITE? THE 100-METER DASH OR 200-METER DASH? >> I WOULD SAY THE 100-METER DASH IT'S SHORTER BUT IN REALITY I LIKE THE — IT'S MORE SPECIALTY AND HAS MORE TECHNIQUE I CAN BREAK IT DOWN AND COME OUT OF THE BLOCK STRONG I THINK THE 100 MORE THAN THE 2 >> Jenny: DO YOU HAVE ANY GOALS FOR THIS INDOOR SEASON? >> JUST MAINLY BE A LEADER

I WAS KIND OF NOT AROUND AS MUCH LAST YEAR, BEING RED SHIRT NOW I WANT TO BE KNOWN AS A VOICE FOR POSITIVITY AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS HAPPY AND ON THEIR FEET >> Jenny: YOU WERE RED SHIRTING LAST YEAR HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT PUTTING THAT SHOCKER UNIFORM BACK ON? >> IT'S THE GREATEST FEELING EVER AFTER MY CAR ACCIDENT, I WAS LIKE WOW, I'M READY TO PUT ON MY SHOCKER UNIFORM NOW

TWO DAYS AFTER MY CAR ACCIDENT SO NOW THAT I'M BACK IN MY UNIFORM IT FEELS SURREAL I'M EXCITED >> Jenny: WE ARE EXCITED TO WATCH YOU IN THE 60 THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TALK TO US

OKAY BANG TO — BACK TO YOU, WILL >> Will: THANK YOU VERY MUCH JENNY WILL BE DOWN THERE ALL DAY INSIDE ALL OF THE EVENTS SHE'LL GIVE US THE INSIGHT THAT WE SO DESPERATELY NEED EVEN THOUGH WE'RE UP IN THE BLEACHERS HERE

JOHN WISE KIND ENOUGH TO STICK AROUND YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO COACH IN A LITTLE BIT TELL US WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO COACH IN A FEW MINUTES AND WE'LL GET TO EARLY RESULTS >> I COACH THE SPRINTERS AND HURDLERS ANY OF THEM THAT DO WELL, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I'M COACHING

[ LAUGHTER ] ANY OF THE ONES THAT MAYBE AREN'T, THOSE ARE COACH RAINBOLT'S ATHLETES [ LAUGHTER ] SO YEAH WE'RE EXCITED AT 3:00 BEHAVE THE RELIVES — WE HAVE THE PRELIMS OF THE HURDLES COMING UP THE PRELIMS WITH EXCITING BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO ADVANCE TO THE FINALS

ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ATHLETES GET INTO THE FINAL THAT'S BEEN A FOCUS FOR SOME OF THE ATHLETES, JUST GET INTO THE FINALS SOME ARE OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO WIN THE EVENT >> Will: LET'S GET INTO SOME OF THE MEN'S WEIGHT THROW RESULTS HERE ANYTHING STICK OUT IN PARTICULAR? >> YEAH

SO ISAIAH EVANS AND TYLER PATTERSON ARE O TWO NEWCOMERS TRANSFERS FROM JUNIOR COLLINS EVANS, THAT'S A SCORE THAT COULD POSSIBLY SCORE IN THE MID-AMERICA — OR IN THE SORRY, MAN THE AMERICAN CONFERENCE [ LAUGHTER ] FLASHBACK TO KENT STATE DAYS THERE

SO TYLER PATTERSON IS MORE OF A JAVELIN GUY WHO GOT THIRD EVANS IS A BIG GUY THIS IS I THINK TYLER PATTERSON, IF I'M — I GOTTA SEE HIS FACE THEY'RE ALL BIG GUYS >> Will: CAN'T TELL BY HIS BACK? >> THEY'RE ALL BIG GUYS

YEAH THAT'S TYLER PATTERSON HE'S A TRANSFER FROM BARTON COUNTY HE'S A GOOD JAVELIN THROWER HE'S PICKING UP THE WEIGHT THROW

A DIFFERENT EVENT INDOORS SO HE'LL I THINK BE A GOOD ATHLETE FOR US LIKE I SAID, EVANS IS — THIS LOOKS LIKE ISIAH HE THREW 558

THAT'S A GOOD THROW FOR HIM >> THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WENT VERY FAR AND COULD HURT SOMEBODY GOOD HEAVENS IF YOU'RE COMPETING IN THE GAVE LIBRARY AND YOU'RE INDOORS HERE, WHICH THEY DON'T HAVE, DO YOU PICK UP SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR THE DAY? >> NO YOU CAN'T JUST PICK UP THE WEIGHT THROW

IF YOU TRY TO PICK UP THE WEIGHT THROW, IT WEIGHS 35 POUNDS, BY THE WAY AND YOU WILL SEE THAT IT WILL LAUNCH YOU INSTEAD OF YOU LAUNCHING IT AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A TOUGH THING >> Will: SO NOW WE HAVE THE WOMEN'S LONG JUMP WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN REGARDS TO THE RESULTS AND FOR HER? >> JADEN DAMON IS A FRESHMAN FROM GODDARD EISENHOWER

ACTUALLY TIED WITH CHELSEA BAKER FOR FIRST PLACE SO FOR JAYDEN, THIS IS MARIA RAMIREZ A FRESHMAN FROM SPAIN COMPETING UNATTACHED JADEN IS A FRESHMAN SHE'S LEARNING A LOT OF THINGS

COACH YOST IS TEACHING HER NEW TECHNIQUES FOR HER TO JUMP 184 AS AN UNATTACHED ATHLETE THERE'S JADEN WE'RE NEEDING HER TO GET UP INTO THE 19-FOOT RANGE TO SCORE IN THE CONFERENCE

SHE'S HEADING THAT WAY MEGAN HOLMES IS A SENIOR JUMPER OUT OF FLOOD SHE GOT THIRD PLACE TODAY THOSE ARE GOOD EARLY SEASON PERFORMANCES OKAY

BACK TO THE MENS SO DAVIS BONER, AS YOU TRANSITION OVER THERE, THAT'S A GUY INJURED ALL LAST YEAR HE RED SHIRTED LAST YEAR HE'S THE BROTHER OF AUSTIN BAHNER, WHO WAS OUR SCHOOL RECORD HOLDER IN THE DECATHLON THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF HIS FIRST PERFORMANCES IN A WICHITA STATE UNIFORM

AND AFTER BEING INJURED ALL LAST YEAR SO THAT'S AN IMPRESS I EARLY SEASON LONG JUMP FOR DAVIS BONER BAHNER HE'S A TALENTED GUY WE RECRUITED HIM HOPING SOME OF HIS BROTHER'S ATHLETIC ABILITY MIGHT RUB OFF ON HIM

IT LOOKS LIKE EARLY IN THE SEASON IT HAS IT'S AN IMPRESSIVE MARK THIS EARLY IN THE YEAR >> Will: YOU SEE SOME OF THE JUMPS HERE ON YOUR SCREEN LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME OF THE TOP THREE REPLAY JUMPS HERE GO AHEAD

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IS NOT DAVIS BUT, YOU KNOW, EARLY SEASON, A LOT OF TIMES COOPER WAS A — HE DID A LITTLE LONG JUMPING THEY DON'T ALWAYS COME FROM A FULL APPROACH SOMETIMES THEY DO IT FROM A SHORTER APPROACH SO YOU'LL SEE SOME ATHLETES COMING IN FROM FARTHER UP AND SOME ATHLETES WAY IN THE BACK

SO YEAH HERE'S DAVIS BAHNER THAT'S HIS PR, 229 HE'S A BIG KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LONG-LEGGED, GOT ARMS AND LEGS FLYING EVERYWHERE

AND THERE'S SOME TECHNIQUES STILL TO BE CLEANED UP SO FOR HIM TO JUMP 229 I KNOW COACH YOST WILL HAVE SOME THINGS IF FOR HIM TO WORK ON >> Will: O WHAT ARE SOME THINGS TECHNICALLY YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK TO WORK WITH HIM ON? >> SO ONE THING FOR HIM, THE LONG JUMP IS IMPORTANT IS SPEED

HE'S CONSTANTLY WORKING ON TURNOVER, RUNNING FORM, TECHNIQUE OVERALL LEG SPEED THE OTHER THING, IF YOU NOTICE HE KIND OF LANDED HIS FEET LANDED, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MORE STRAIGHT DOWN INSTEAD OF OUT IN FRONT OF HIM SO COACH YOST WILL BE WATCHING THAT FILM AND TALKING ABOUT GETTING HIS LEGS OUT IN FRONT OF HIM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO MEASURE FROM THE VERY BACK POINT OF WHICH YOU CROSS THE SAND NOT GOING TO BE THE FRONT OF YOU OR ANYTHING IT COULD BE YOUR HAND BACK IN THE BACK

WHATEVER IS THE FARTHEST BACK THEY MEASURE FROM SO THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT GETTING HIS FEET OUT IN FRONT OF HIM SO HE'S LANDING MORE OUT IN THE PIT HE'S AN ATHLETIC GUY, JUMPS REALLY HAY SO THOSE ARE LITTLE THINGS THAT GET 6 INCHES, 8 INCHES, WHICH MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE END >> Will: THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MEN'S HIGH JUMP WHAT DO YOU SEE OUT OF THESE NUMBERS? ANYTHING STAND OUT? >> YEAH, MILES FRIF ITSELF SAYS TRUE FRESH — MILES GRIFFITHS IS A TRUE FRESHMAN OUT OF NEBRASKA HERE'S MILES 69 AND A QUARTER IN HIS FIRST COMPETITION, HE'S EXCITED

SO THAT'S A TERRIFIC MARK FOR HIM FRESHMEN ARE ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT INCONSISTENT SO TO COME OUT AND JUMP 6925 IN HIS FIRST MEET IS REALLY GOOD

HE'S EXCITED I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF HIS BETTER JUMP HE'S A GOOD KID, A HARD WORKER HE'S ALSO TRYING TO MESS AROUND WITH MAYBE PICKING UP THE LONG JUMP THERE'S COACH RAINBOLT

HE'S GOING TO BE A GOOD ONE TO LOOK FOR IN THE FUTURE I THINK HE'LL SCORE GOOD POINTS IN THE CONFERENCE AS A TRUE FRE SHMAN >> Will: CHELSEA BAKER, PROBABLY NOT A BIG SURPRISE TO SEE HER ON THE TOP OF THIS WOMEN'S HAY JUMP SHE'S A NATIONAL CHAMPION UNDER COLE DAVIS AT FRIENDS WHAT ELSE TO YOU SEE HERE? >> CHELSEA, THAT'S NOT A GREAT JUMP FOR HER

SHE'S JUMPED MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT I THINK SHE MOVED THE BAR UP ONCE YOU'RE THE LAST JUMPER YOU CAN MOVE IT UP TO WHEREVER YOU WANT TO SHE MOVES IT UP PRETTY HIGH AND PROBABLY DIDN'T MAKE THE HIGH BAR BUT WE HAD THE THIRD PLACE FINISHER

SHE'S A SOPHOMORE AND ATHLETE WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THERE'S CHELSEA THERE, THE FRIENDS UNIVERSITY ATHLETE THAT WON SECOND PLACE WAS KATIE MURRY, ONE OF OUR BETTER HIGH JUMPERS SHE'S CONSISTENT, SO WE'RE HOPING SOMETHING IN THE RANGE OF 58 SHE COMES TO SOON

SO TO START AT 55, 56 IS A GOOD START FOR KATIE MURRY >> Will: IF WE CAN TALK IN A MINUTE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE AAC WITH COOPER AND JENNY HOW BIG IS THIS AS A COACH TO NOW BEING COACHING THE AAC VERSUS NBC? >> YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENCE IN COMPETITION ISN'T TRAUMATIC IN TRACK AND FIELD — DRAMATIC IN TRACK AND FIELD

ONE OF THE DIFFERENCE FOR ME IS I'M GOING TO BE COACHING AGAINST GUYS LIKE CARL LEWIS, WHO IS A SPRINT COACH AT HOUSTON AND LEE BOY BARRELL BOTH HAVE BROKEN WORLD RECORDS NOT ONLY THEM, BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER REALLY WELL KNOWN COACHES IN OUR CONFERENCE AND REALLY GOOD COACHES BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY COMPETITIVE

I KNOW THE TEAMS IN THAT CONFERENCE KNOW ABOUT OUR TEAM AND I THINK THEY'RE EXPECTING US TO BE VERY COMPETITIVE RIGHT AWAY WE HAD A CONVENTION IN DECEMBER IN PHOENIX WHERE WE ALL HAD A COACHES MEETING, SO WE'RE GETTING TO KNOW THOSE COACHES A LITTLE BIT THEY ALL SEEM LIKE GOOD GUYS AND GIRLS AND WE'RE EXCITED TO COMPETE IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE HIGHER LEVEL MOSTLY BECAUSE IT'S A VERY SIMILAR — IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE MISSOURI VALLEY

BUT THEN WHEN YOU TAKE US OUT, MISSOURI VALLEY GOES LIKE THIS AND THE AMERICAN CONFERENCE GOES LIKE THIS AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T LOSE A TEAM THEY JUST ADDED A TEAM >> Will: RIGHT >> SO IT MAKES THE DEPTH OF THAT CONFERENCE THAT MUCH BETTER

AND INSTEAD OF THE EIGHTH PLACE POINT, THE EIGHTH PLACE MARK GETTING A POINT, IT'S ABOUT MORE LIKE THE FIFTH OR SIXTH PLACE POINT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET A COUPLE PEOPLE IN EACH OF THOSE EVENTS SO IT JUST RAISES OUR LEVEL IT RAISES THOSE OTHER TEAMS' LEVELS AND WE'RE EXCITED FOR THE NEW CHALLENGE IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT >> Will: GOOD

I KNOW YOU'RE UP FOR IT, COACH GO ENJOY YOUR COACHING AND HOPEFULLY TAKE TALLY OVER ALL THESE ATHLETES AND CLAIM ALL OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE SO SUCCESSFUL TODAY WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE THANKS FOR STAYING WITH US, JOHN >> Will: WELCOME BACK TO THE HESKETT CENTER HERE ON WICHITA STATE'S CAMPUS

HERE'S THE 10th ANNUAL SHOCKER PRELUDE WE'VE GONE OVER MOST OF THE FIELD EVENTS AND AS THEY ARE NOW SLOWLY WRAPPING UP I WANT TO QUICKLY MAKE A MENTION CLOSED CAPTIONS IS PROVIDED ON BEHALF OF ORPHEUM THEATER, WICHITA'S NON-PROFIT CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS SHOW INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND AT WICHITAORPHEUM

COM THANK YOU FOR HELPING OUT WITH TODAY'S PRODUCTION I'M STILL HERE WITH COOPER, WE'RE ABOUT TO GET READY FOR THE RUNNING EVENTS HERE KIND OF TAKES ON A DIFFERENT FEEL INSIDE THE BUILDING WHEN YOU KNOW THE SPRINTS AND HURDLES ARE COMING BECAUSE THE HURDLES ARE SET UP AND READY TO ROLL >> Cooper: YEAH

THERE'S CERTAINLY A CHANGE IN ENERGY WHEN YOU HEAR THE GUN GO OFF AND SEE PEOPLE HITTING HURDLES, WHEN YOU SEE THE CROWD CHEERING A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MORE AND THE ATHLETES READY TO RUN WE'LL START WITH THE LADIES 60 HURDLE AND GO INTO THE MEN AFTER THAT AND THEN WE'LL RUN THE HURDLES FINALS SO THE ONLY FINALS EVENTS THAT WE'LL BE RUNNING TODAY ARE PRE — PRELIM EVENTS WILL BE THE 60M HURDLES FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN AND 60M DASH >> Will: LET'S GET INTO SOME OF THE TRIPLE JUMP RESULTS ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE HERE

COOPER, WHAT DO YOU SEE HERE? >> Cooper: WELL, AGAIN YOU SEE JADEN DAMON SHE WON THE LONG JUMP AS WELL SHE'S COMPETING UNATTACHED SOUNDS LIKE SHE'S HAVING A PRETTY GOOD MEET AGAIN, IT'S EARLY IN THE SEASON FOR A LOT OF THESE ATHLETES, SO IT'S HARD TO GAUGE WHERE THEY MIGHT BE AT, BUT THAT'S A SOLID MARK COMING IN OFF A BREAK

USUALLY WHAT COACH RAINBOLT SAYS AFTER A BREAK IS YOU CAN'T IMPROVE, YOU CAN ONLY MAINTAIN SO SHE'S CLEARLY DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB >> Will: OKAY SO IF YOU'RE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS HERE, THE FRESHMEN, YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF COMPARE IT AGAINST LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED IS IT FAIR TO LOOK AT HIGH SCHOOL NUMBERS AND SAY IT'S THAT MUCH BETTER? OR HOW DO YOU COMPARE, CONTRAST, IMPROVE? >> Cooper: YEAH

GREAT QUESTION IT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD TO COMPARE YOUR HIGH SCHOOL MARKS TO A COLLEGIATE MARK NOW, SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ADVANTAGE OF IS IT'S NOT LIKE THINGS HAVE GOTTEN LONGER IN THE JUMPS >> Will: RIGHT >> Cooper: OR THE EVENTS HAVE GOTTEN LONGER

THE HURDLES GET HIGHER >> Will: 60 METERS IS 60 METERS EVERYWHERE >> Cooper: EXACTLY AND THE THROWS, THESE SHOT PUT AND WEIGHT THROW GET HEAVIER BUT WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS, YOU KNOW, COMPETING, THE LEVEL OF ATHLETE YOU'RE COMPETING AGAINST, YOU GO FROM TOP DOG IN HIGH SCHOOL TO BOTTOM OF THE HEAP TYPICALLY WHEN YOU COME INTO A COLLEGE EVENT LIKE THESE

ESPECIALLY AT THE LEVEL THAT WICHITA STATE COMPETES AT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO BE SOMEWHERE SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IMPRESSIVE WITH COACH RAINBOLT IS HOW HE'S BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP ATHLETES FROM HIGH SCHOOL ON INTO COLLEGE >> Will: COACH WISE MENTIONED A LOT OF FRESHMEN AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST HOW RARE IS THAT? OR IS THAT BECAUSE THIS IS THE SHOCKER PRELUDE YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THAT TODAY? >> Cooper: I THINK WE'LL SEE A LOT BETTER PERFORMANCES HERE ON SATURDAY AT THE HIGHER LEVEL MEET WITH KU AND K-STATE

BUT AND WITH THE FRESHMEN IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW WELL THEY'VE DONE RECRUITING AND HOW WELL THEY CAN DEVELOP THESE ATHLETES OVER TIME >> Will: SO THIS IS THE WOMEN'S 60M HURDLES FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, BROOKLYN JAMES, JALEN MILLIGAN OF WICHITA STATE TYANN ISAACS OF FRIENDS SARA HINES RUNNING UNATTACHED FROM WICHITA STATE

KENDRA HENRY IS COMPETING FOR THE SHOCKERS THEN KARA SIMMONS ALSO FROM FRIENDS AGAIN THAT'S LEFT TO RIGHT YOUR RUNNERS WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO SEE HERE? >> Cooper: WELL, YOU SEE OUT EARLY IT'S GOING TO BE SARAH HINES SHE'S ACTUALLY COME FROM EMPORIA

AND SHE'S COMPETING UNATTACHED YOU SEE HER WINNING THE HEAT THERE FAIRLY COMFORTABLY YEAH SHE CAME ACTUALLY FROM EMPORIA STATE SO COMPETING HERE AT WICHITA STATE AND WINNING THE EVENT

THAT'S A GOOD GAIN FOR WICHITA STATE TO HAVE THAT TRANSFER THEN YOU ALSO SEE THE FRESHMAN MULTI- KEN THAT HENRY SHE CAME IN I BELIEVE THIRD OR FOURTH IN THAT HEAT COMING THROUGH WITH A PRETTY GOOD TIME FOR A FRESHMAN I'D S AY IT'S HARD FOR THESE FRESHMEN TO COMPETE AT THIS LEVEL

THE GOOD THING THAT SARAH HINES HAS HAD IS SHE'S HAD SOME COLLEGIATE EXPERIENCE MAYBE NOT AT THE SAME COMPETITION LEVEL AS SHE WAS AT EMPORIA STATE BUT HERE THE HURDLE COACH AND THE TRADITION OF THE HURDLES THROUGH COACH WISE AND COACH RAINBOLT AS WELL REALLY HAS DEVELOPED A LOT OF ATHLETES OVER TIME WE'VE HAD A FEW OLYMPIC TRIALS QUALIFIERS AND A FEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE REALLY CHANGED THE PROGRAM AROUND SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT COMES OF SARAH HINES IN HER TIME HERE AT WICHITA STATE

>> Will: YOU CAN SEE THE REPLAY HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU ON WSUTV ANYTHING STICK OUT IN PARTICULAR FOR YOU? >> Cooper: YEAH WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE IS SARAH HINES IS REALLY OUT EARLY SHE'S ONE OUT OF THE BLOCKS YOU'LL SEE HER HIP HEIGHT DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE TOO MUCH OVER THE HURDLES

SO FOR THE WOMEN THAT'S A 33-INCH HIGH HURDLE IT'S NOT AS HIGHWAY NEAR AS MUCH AS THE MEN SO THE BETTER YOU CAN DO TO KEEP YOUR HIPS AT THE SAME LEVEL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE RACE AND THE CLOSER YOU CAN GET TO THE GROUND AND THE QUICKER YOU CAN GET ON THE GROUND IN BETWEEN THE HURDLES WILL HELP YOUR SPEED OVER THE ENTIRE RACE >> Will: HERE LOOKING LEFT TO RIGHT HERE IN THE PRELIMS HEAT NO 2 FROM LEFT TO RIGHT

KING OUT OF OKLAHOMA BAPTIST AND ANNA MAHONEY FROM EMPORIA STATE ALEXI WHATLEY AND CARLEA MILES BOTH SHOCKERS AND MOM KEATING NOT UNATTACHED IN THIS RACE

AND SHELBY HUNDLEY FROM FRIENDS AND AGAIN OUT OF OKLAHOMA BAPTIST ON THE FAR RIGHT IN LANE 6, RAIGAN SERVATI ANY ATHLETES FROM THE SHOCKERS THAT STAND OUT? >> Cooper: YEAH YOU SEE THE TWO THAT'S ALEXI WHATLEY AND CARLEA MILES ALEXI IS A 400M HURDLER

WASHINGTON STATE A 400M HURDLER IS GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE 60 HURDLES WHERE YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH HOLD YOUR BREATH THE ENTIRE TIME WITHOUT HAVING ANY TROUBLE SO SHE'S GOT THE FITNESS IT'S JUST WE'LL SEE HOW HER SPEED COMPARES OVER THE 60M RANGE >> Will: YOU MENTIONED THE MEN — THE WOMEN'S HURDLES 33 INCHES

HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE MEN'S? FOR EXAMPLE? >> Cooper: THE MEN'S ARE AT 42 INCHES YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A BIT, WE CAN SEE OUT EARLY IN LANE 3, WE TALKED ABOUT ALEXI WHATLEY SHE DOES WIN THAT HEAT IN THIRD PLACE IN THAT HEAT IS CARLEA MILES SHE'S A MULTI-SHE ACTUALLY WAS THE JAVELIN CHAMPION LAST YEAR FOR THE NBC CONFERENCE SO VERY, VERY TALENTED ATHLETE

IT'S REALLY GOOD FOR THESE MULTI-EVENT ATHLETES, THESE HELP@LEASTS IN THE WOMEN, TO COMPETE ESPECIALLY IN EVENTS THAT ARE HARDER TO COMPARE I GUESS TO A DASH, RIGHT SO HURDLES, WHEN YOU COME IN NEW TO ANY SORT OF MULTI-EVENT, GETTING OVER SOME HURDLES IS, IT'S A HARD EVENT FOR THESE ATHLETES SO THE MORE EXPERIENCE THEY GET GOING OVER THE HURDLES IS GOING TO HELP THEM IN THE LONG RANGE ESPECIALLY IN THE SCORES FOR HEPTATHLON EVENT >> Will: FOR VIEWERS THAT MAY NOT KNOW, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN HOW THESE PRELIMS, WHO ADVANCES TO THE FINALS? HOW DOES THAT WORK IF YOU WANT TO BREAK THAT DOWN? >> Cooper: YEAH IN THE HURDLES WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE TOP SIX

AND THOSE ARE THE TOP SIX TIMES SO WHETHER — >> Will: OF EACH PRELIM? OF EACH HEAT I SHOULD SAY? >> Cooper: OF THE TOTAL TIMES >> Will: RIGHT OKAY >> Cooper: YEAH SO YOU SEE, WE HAVE FIVE HEATS

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE THE HEAT WINNER THAT MIGHT ADVANCE TO THE FINAL MOST OF THE TIME THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE AS THEY ARE SEATED IN A SERPENTINE FASHION THAT MEANS YOU TAKE THE TOP FIVE RUNNERS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALL IN DIFFERENT HEATS IN THE PRELIMS YOU TAKE THE NEXT FIVE RUNNERS AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE WITH EACH RESPECTIVE TOP ATHLETE AS WELL IN THOSE HEATS

AND SO THAT HELPS GIVE YOU THE MOST COMPETITION IN THE PRELIMS THAT ALSO HELPS YOU, PUTS YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARDS THE FINALS SO WHAT WE'LL NOTICE MORE IN THE FINALS IS SOMETHING, WELL, PROBABLY A LOT MORE — A LOT BETTER COMPETITION THAT YOU'LL SEE SO THE PRELIMS IS A GOOD WAY TO GET THE BUGS OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM, GET USED TO THE HURDLE HEIGHT, GET USED TO THE GUN, HOW QUICK IS THE STARTER GOING AND THEN REALLY RELAXING IN THE FINALS AND KNOWING THAT YOU CAN COME OUT

YOU'VE ALREADY GOT A RACE UNDER YOUR BELT YOU HAVEN'T HIT A HURDLE YOU HAVEN'T FALLEN DOWN THAT'S JUST HUGE MENTALLY FOR A HURDLE ATHLETE I WOULD SAY >> Will: AGAIN, HERE THIS IS HEAT NUMBER 3 OF 5

WE'LL GO RIGHT TO LEFT IT'S JOZIROSE MAYFIELD UNATTACHED, WICHITA STATE'S SYDNEY WILSON WICHITA STATE FEN JUNIOR LEAH MOLTER

OUT OF FRIENDS, LAUREN DOLL THEN ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN, WICHITA STATE'S ABBI BIRD SHE IS COMPETING SHE IS NOT UNATTACHED TODAY >> Cooper: THERE'S TWO WICHITA STATE ATHLETES HERE

ONE UNATTACHED, THE OTHER COMPETING FOR SCORE FOR WICHITA STATE THEY'RE BOTH MULTI-EVENT ATHLETES I MENTIONED BEFORE THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING THE EXPERIENCE ONE OF THESE ATHLETES MIGHT COMPETE ON SATURDAY AT THE KU TRIANGULAR I'M NOT SURE OF THE HEAT SHEETS FOR THAT EVENT ON SATURDAY

BUT AGAIN, THE EXPERIENCE OF GETTING OVER MORE HURDLES AND AS MANY HURDLES AS YOU CAN BEFORE YOU COMPETE IN THE ACTUAL HEPTATHLON SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IN LANE 2 SYDNEY WILSON COMING IN THIRD IN THAT RACE

AND THEN ABBI BIRD COMING FROM BEHIND NOW, ABBI, IT SEEMS LIKE SHE STRUGGLED A LITTLE BETWEEN HURDLES 2 AND 3 AS A MULTI-EVENT ATHLETE, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE RUNNING THESE EVENTS AND NO ONE REALLY EXPECTS YOU TO DOMINATE THE EVENT IN THE HURDLES THE MULTIS, WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THAT IS YOU GO TO A MEET, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE STRONG IN THE HURDLES AND STRONG IN THE POLE VAULT, BUT THERE'S — HAVE TO COMPETE IN SO WE'LL WATCH HERE AGAIN

>> Will: NOW, IS THE START JUST LIKE ANY RACE, THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE HURDLE RACE? >> Cooper: YOU KNOW, IN THE HURDLES IT'S MORE OF A HOW DO YOU BUILD YOUR SPEED OVER TIME YES, YOU WANT TO HIT A TOP SPEED BEFORE YOU HIT THAT FIRST HURDLE IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET TO THAT FIRST HURDLE BEFORE EVERYONE ELSE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WIN THE RACE AS IT WOULD IN THE 60 YOU KNOW, THE 60 IS NOT REALLY LONG ENOUGH FOR SOMEONE TO DIE OUT IF THEY'RE LEADING FROM THE START

SO YOU WANT TO SEE THAT START BE QUICK THERE ARE — THE GOOD HURDLERS THAT YOU'LL SEE AND ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND THE WORLD LEVEL, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THEM COME OUT THEY MAY COME OUT NOT SUPER FAST OUT OF THE BLOCKS COMPARATIVELY TO SOME OTHER ATHLETES, BUT THEY BUILD IN BETWEEN THE HURDLES AND FINISH STRONG SO YOU TAKE THE TALLER ATHLETES USUALLY DO THAT THEY'RE TAKING SEVEN STEPS BEFORE THE FIRST HURDLE

THREE STEPS IN BETWEEN BUT YOU SEE SHORTER ATHLETES TEND TO STRUGGLE BETWEEN HURDLES 4 AND 5 NOW, WITH THE LADIES IT'S NOT AS BIG OF A STRUGGLE BECAUSE THE HIP HEIGHT RELATIVE TO THE HURDLE HEIGHT IS NOT AS BIG OF A — OR IS NOT AS CLOSE OF A GAP AS IT IS FOR THE MEN AS WE SEE HERE IN A FEW MINUTES >> Will: AND THIS IS HEAT NO 4 OF 5, AGAIN OF THE WOMEN'S 60M HURDLES

FROM RIGHT TO LEFT WE GO OKLAHOMA BAPTIST AGAIN TAUSHIAWNA VICK THEN OF FRIENDS TO HER RIGHT ELAINA HENDERSON THEN RUNNING UNATTACHED WITH WHIP THAT STATE IS MARIA ROMERO EMPORIA STATE'S LINDSAY POAGUE

AND WICHITA STATE'S LEAH REICHENBERGER >> Cooper: WE SAW MARIA COMPETE SHE'S IN LANE 4 WE SAW HER COMPETE EARLIER TODAY IN THE LONG JUMP I BELIEVE SHE WAS IN THE TOP THREE

SHE IS FROM SPAIN WE HAVE A COUPLE ATHLETES FROM SPAIN WICHITA DOESN'T HAVE A MASSIVE INTERNATIONAL PRESENCE ESPECIALLY ON THE TRACK TEAM, BUT WE DO GET ATHLETES FROM LATVIA, LITHUANIA, FROM SPAIN SO EVERY NOW AND THEN IT'S GOOD TO SEE AN OVERSEAS ATHLETE COMPETE AT THIS LEVEL AND SUCCESSFULLY AS SHE HAS

NOW, SHE IS UNATTACHED YOU SEE THE PERSON WHO IS NOT UNATTACHED IS A SOPHOMORE OUT OF ANDALE, THAT IS LEAH REICHENBERGER OUT OF ANDALE COMPETING FOR WICHITA STATE ON YOUR LEFT >> Will: THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF REICHENBERGERS I THINK COMING THROUGH THE WICHITA STATE IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME I LOOK OUT THERE'S A REICHENBERGER THAT'S COMPETING >> Cooper: MAINLY FROM ANDALE HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL

IT'S ALL ONE FAMILY YOU SEE IN SECOND PLACE THERE THAT'S MARIA ROMERO IN THIRD IS LEAH THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD RUN FOR THEM I WOULD SAY ESPECIALLY MARIA BEING A MULTI, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF MULTIS COMPETE TODAY

THAT'S A GOOD RUN FOR HER STAYING UP WITH MORE LIKELY A PURE HURDLE ATHLETE OUT OF EMPORIA WE'LL SEE MOST LIKELY THAT WON'T GET HER INTO THE FINAL BUT WE WILL SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT FOR HER AND THEN WE HAVE COMING UP IN THIS NEXT HEAT WE'LL GET TO IN A BIT, WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT MULTIS AND WE'LL HAVE A GREAT COMPETITION WITH CHELSEA BAKER, WHO WON THE LONG JUMP EARLIER TODAY

OR, SORRY, GOT SECOND IN THE LONG JUMP EARLIER TODAY >> Will: YOU CAN CROWN HER QUEEN, I'M SURE SHE WOULDN'T MIND >> Cooper: SHE DID SCORE 10 POINTS SO THE OTHER THING ABOUT THESE UNATTACHED ATHLETES IN THESE — THE POINTS SCORING FOR THE TRACK MEETS, UNATTACHED ATHLETES CANNOT SCORE FOR THEIR TEAM SO IF YOU SEE AN UNATTACHED ATHLETE WINNING AN EVENT OR A HEAT OR WHATEVER, THAT'S NOT GOING TO MESS UP ANY OF THE SCORING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT

YOU CAN LOOK AT THE NEXT ATHLETE THAT DOESN'T SAY UNATTACHED AND WE DIDN'T TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT SCORING EVENTS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, AND COACH WISE WOULD PLAY INTO THIS BUT RAINBOLT HAS A PHILOSOPHY THAT YOU CAN GO TO SOME OF THESE MEETS AND HAVE THEM NOT BE SCORED >> Will: UH-HUH >> Cooper: AND JUST COMPETE AS A SINGULAR ATHLETE, SEE HOW WELL YOU DO, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT

BUT A SCORED TRACK MEET BRINGS OUT A LEVEL OF COMPETITION THAT YOU DON'T TYPICALLY SEE IN SOME OTHER MEETS >> Will: LET'S STOP TALKING I THINKERN HAS HEARD ENOUGH OF US LET'S GET OUT TO JENNY PINKSTON WHO IS IN THE MID — MIDDLE OF THE RING WITH A GUEST >> Jenny: HI

JOINING ME IS NOW DEJA BULLOCK SHE IS A SPRINTER SPECIALIST SHE'S A SOPHOMORE FROM PES KEIT, TEXAS WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO COME TO WICHITA STATE? >> I THOUGHT WICHITA STATE WAS A GOOD PLACE TO BE I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD FIT FOR ME

JUST THE ENVIRONMENT HERE AND THE TEAM DYNAMICS AND THE CHAMPIONSHIP I KNEW THIS WAS A PLACE I WANTED TO BE >> Jenny: ALL RIGHT SO YOU'RE RED-SHIRTING THIS YEAR HAS THAT AFFECTED YOUR TRAINING AT ALL? >> IT HASN'T AFFECTED MY TRAINING

EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A RED SHIRT SEASON FOR ME, I'M JUST TAKING IT AS IF I WAS COMPETING THIS YEAR IT'S JUST FOR ME TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BETTER IN MY 400 AND DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF TRACK SO I'M EXCITED FOR IT AND I'M NOT UPSET OR ANYTHING I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST FOR EVERYONE

SO I'M EXCITED FOR THIS SEASON >> Jenny: AWESOME SO YOU'RE ABOUT TO RUN TWO 400s TODAY HOW DOES SOMEBODY PREPARE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? >> YOU MAINLY PREPARE IN PRACTICE, SPEED ENDURANCE IS DEFINITELY WHAT WE DO TO GET READY FOR THAT I MEAN IT'S SOMETHING I LOVE TO DO

SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO ME, OR I'M NOT WORRIED OR SCARED ABOUT IT >> Jenny: DO YOU HAVE ANY PRE-MEET RITUALS? >> SO BEFORE I START, I HAVE A PRAYER AND THEN I DO THIS SCRIPTURE IT'S MY FAVORITE SCRIPTURE, 1 PETER 5 AND 6 I READ THAT AND LISTEN TO MY MUSIC AND GET IN MY ZONE AND GET OUT THERE AND DO WHAT I KNOW HOW TO DO BEST

>> Jenny: THERE YOU GO SO YOU — OH I HEARD YOU ARE GOOD AT MAKING IMPERSONATIONS I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR BEST IMPERSONATION OF COACH RAINBOLT IS? >> HE'S REALLY TOUCHY SO HE'LL BE LIKE WHAT'S UP? HE'LL BE LIKE A REALLY BIG THUMBS UP BECAUSE HIS THUMB IS KIND OF BIG

WHAT'S UP, KID? DOING GOOD, KID! AND THEN HE'LL DO THIS LITTLE AWKWARD LIKE LITTLE FIST PUMP THING AND THEN HE'S ALWAYS LIKE I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE ON OUR TEAM! JUST KEEP IT UP, KID! SO THAT'S LIKE MY RAINBOLT IMPERSONATION >> Jenny: I LOVE IT THANK YOU FOR TALKING TO US TODAY WE CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH YOU RUN

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME >> Jenny: BACK TO YOU, WILL >> Will: AWESOME THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JENNY THAT BOLT IMPRESSION I THINK IS SPOT-ON RIGHT THERE

>> Cooper: YEAH I WOULD SAY I HAVE A FEW OF MY OWN IN MY BACK POCKET BUT YEAH — >> Will: OH DO YOU? >> Cooper: THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LOWER AND — LOUDER AND PROBABLY NOT — >> Will: IS THAT A CUE FOR ME TO TEE YOU UP AND SAY >> Cooper: HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THEM UP HERE DESHA I WOULD ADD AN ALL-CONFERENCE PERFORMER JUST AS A SOPHOMORE THIS YEAR

SHE COMPETED AS AN ALL CONFERENCE PERFORMER LAST YEAR IN THE RELAYS OBVIOUSLY IN INDIVIDUAL EVENTS YOU WANT TO DO WELL BUT YOU CAN TELL A LOT ABOUT THE FUTURE OF A TRACK TEAM BY SOME OF THE RELAY EVENT MEMBERS AND SO WITH DESHA BEING INVOLVED IN CONFERENCE MEET, SHE'S GOING TO BE A LARGE CONTRIBUTOR TO THIS TEAM NOT ONLY THIS YEAR

I KNOW SHE'S GOING TO RED-SHIRT BUT NEXT YEAR AND THE YEARS FOLLOWING AS WELL SO — >> Will: ALL RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE WE'RE IN HEAT 1 HERE OF 4 IN THE MEN'S 60M HURDLES SO IF WE LOOK RIGHT TO LEFT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CHANDLER STIAWALT OF WICHITA STATE COMPETING UNATTACHED

THEN WE'LL HAVE ANDREW WORLEY FROM OKLAHOMA BAPTIST ANOTHER SHOCKER FOLLOWED HIM, LOUIS RIVERS OKLAHOMA BAPTIST BRANDON CROWLEY FRIENDS LAVAUGHNTE MINNIS AND SHOCKER LUCAS SHAFFER

WE HAVE THREE SHOCKERS IN THIS RACE STIAWALT IS THE ONE UNATTACHED IN THIS HEAT >> Cooper: SO I MENTIONED BEFORE, JUST THE DIFFERENCE IN DISPARITY IN THIRD L — IN HURDLE HEIGHT WEAN THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S AGAIN, THE WOMEN'S BEING 33 INCHES, THE MEN 42 INCHES THE WOMEN'S HEIGHTS DON'T CHANGE BETWEEN HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE

SO REALLY IF YOU CAN ADD SPEED IN COLLEGE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE YOUR TIMES IMPROVE NOW, WITH THE MEN, 3 INCHES IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL NOW, FOR ESPECIALLY SOMEONE WHO'S MAYBE A MORE REFINED ATHLETE COMING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, THEY MASTERED THE 39-INCH HURDLES THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T COMPETE IN THE 60, BUT THE 110 HURDLES IN HIGH SCHOOL SO THEY HAVE THE ENDURANCE TO GET THROUGH THOSE TAPES OF RACES

BUT 3EU7B SPES REALLY CHANGES — 3EU7B SPES REALLY CHANGES YOUR STYLE AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A SHORTER HURDLE ATHLETE YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF SUCCESSFUL ATHLETES, THE TYPICAL HEIGHT IN THE MEN'S HURDLES YOU ARE GOING TO SEE GUYS WHO ARE 62'," 6'4" BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN YOU'LL SEE SOME STAR COMING OUT WITH A 5'10" HEIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE THIS HERE IN THE LOOKS LIKE LANE 2 OR 3

>> Will: SO THIS HAS SIX RUNNERS LISTED, BUT THERE'S FOUR SO HOW IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT — >> Cooper: WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS A FEW RUNNERS HAVE SCRATCHED WE MAY HAVE CONSOLIDATED SOME HEATS AS WELL SO YOU CAN GET TO IT WE HAD A COUPLE UNATTACHED ATHLETES IN THIS

SO CHANDLER SKY WALT MAY HAVE CHOSEN TO — STIAWALT MAY HAVE CHOSEN TO DROP HE MAY STILL BE COMPETING IN THE POLE VAULT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE A MULTI-EVENT ATHLETE IN LANE 3 YOU CAN SEE LOUIS RIVERS I ACTUALLY COMPETED AGAINST HIM AMON AGO IN THE — A MONTH AGO IN THE INTRASQUAD MEET >> Will: HOW DID THAT GO? >> Cooper: OH, I SAW HIS BACK THE WHOLE TIME

LOUIS, I MENTIONED SHORTER ATHLETES IN THE HURDLES THIS IS A BIG CHANGE FOR HIM, THOSE 3 INCHES SO HE MAY HAVE A 30-INCH, 32-INCH INSEAM BUT THEN YOU ADD ANOTHER 3 INCHES TO THE HURDLE THAT HE'S GOT TO GET OVER IT'S A LARGER ADJUSTMENT

AND WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE GIRLS KEEPING YOUR HIP HEIGHT AS LEVEL AS POSSIBLE WELL, THE MEN HAVE TO MAKE A DRAMATIC ADJUSTMENT SO THE STRENGTH THAT LOUIS HAS IS BEING HIS SPEED HIS LEG LENGTH HIS STRIDE IS NOT SUPER LONG

BUT HE'S NOT HURTING SO MUCH FOR SPEED HE JUST HAS TO ADJUST HIS HIP HEIGHT A LOT MORE, WHICH CAUSES YOU WHEN YOU GO OVER A HURDLE THAT HIGH, YOU'RE GOING TO FALL OFF THE HURDLE IN SOME WAYS HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO HIT A FEW YOU DIDN'T SEE TOO MANY LADIES HITTING HURDLES IN THE HEATS WE SAW BEFORE, WHICH IS — WAS A LITTLE UNEXPECTED I EXPECTED TO SEE A FEW MORE THAN WE SAW

BUT WITH THE MEN, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HURDLES ALL OVER THE TRACK MOST LIKELY, AND THIS EARLY IN THE SEASON >> Will: A YARD SALE? >> Cooper: YEAH ESPECIALLY WITH MULTIS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ENTERTAINING TO SEE THAT BUT, YEAH YOU'LL — THE GUYS' HURDLES, BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A DRAMATIC ADJUSTMENT AND YOU'RE HITTING THEM AND THOSE THINGS, YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO GUYS, TOO

YOU'LL GET SLAPPED IN THE CHEST BY GUYS, TRAIL ARM YOU MIGHT GET HIT BY SOMEONE'S TRAIL LEG SO YOU GOTTA BE REALLY CAREFUL WHEN YOU ARE OUT THERE AND COMMUNICATE WITH THE OTHER ATHLETE YOU DON'T WANT TO NOT MAKE FINALS BECAUSE YOU GOT HIT IN THE CHEST BY AN ATHLETE >> Will: THAT'S NOT THE WAY — >> Cooper: AND THEY DON'T WANT TO PREVENT YOU

>> Will: THAT REMINDS ME OF COOL RUNNINGS WHEN THEY'RE RUNNING AND FALL AND HERE WE ARE WE'VE GOT AN OLYMPIC BOB SLED TEAM OUT OF IT >> Cooper: YOU SEE LOUIS JUST LEAVING A TRAIL OF HURDLES BEHIND HIM HE KNOCKED DOWN ALL FIVE OF THOSE HURDLES

>> Will: SHOWED THEM WHO'S BOSS >> Cooper: EXACTLY HE'S NOT GOING TO LET IT AFFECT HIS POWERFUL — HE'S A POWERFUL ATHLETE HE'S NOT REALLY GOING TO LET HITTING THE HURDLES AFFECT HIS RUN TOO MUCH BUT OVER TIME IF YOU HIT ALL FAVE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE YOUR TIME

NOW IT MIGHT NOT ALTER YOUR RUNNING FORM YOU MIGHT NOT HIT IT WITH YOUR LEAD LEG OR YOUR TRAIL LEG SOME OF THAT MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE BUT IF YOU'RE HITTING ALL FIVE IT'S GOING TO THROW YOU OFF BY A TENTH, TWO-TENTHS AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU MAKING FINALS OR NOT >> Will: WHAT'S COACH JOHN WISE TELLING HIM RIGHT THERE? HE WINS THE HEAT

BUT LIKE YOU SAID HE KNOCKS DOWN ALL HURDLES WHAT ARE THE COACHES SAYING TO HIM RIGHT NOW? >> Cooper: YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION ON LOUIS' FACE HE'S JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT THIS IS HIS SECOND RACE HE RAN IN THE INTRASQUAD LAST MEET

HE'S DRILLING EVERY HURDLE WITH HIS LEAD LEG >> Will: IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S HIS FRONT HAMSTRING HITTING EVERY HURDLE >> Cooper: EXACTLY SO HE'S TRYING TO COME DOWN A BIT QUICKER THAN HE'S GETTING OVER THE HURDLE, WHICH MEANS HE MIGHT BE BEHIND, WHICH IS TYPICAL OF A SHORTER ATHLETE HIS SPEED IS THERE, HE'S ABLE TO GET OVER THE HURDLE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN ON TOP OF IT, IT JUST MEANS THERE'S A COMPETITIVE EDGE IN YOU THAT SAYS, HEY, I WANT TO GET DOWN ON THE GROUND SOONER

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, YOUR MIND CAN'T MASTER YOUR BODY IN EVERY ASPECT OF THE HURDLE RACE >> Will: SO YOU SAY YOU WANT TO GET DOWN ON THE GROUND SOONER LAST TIME I CHECKED, THIS IS THE ONE THING I REMEMBER FROM HIGH SCHOOL, THERE'S 928 METERS PER SECOND SQUARED THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH GRAVE IF I FOR EVERY PERSON — SO MUCH GRAVITY FOR EVERY PERSON

HOW DO YOU GET DOWN FASTER THAN THE NEXT GUY WHEN THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH TBRATY TO GO AROUND? >> Cooper: I GUESS KEY IS NOT GOING UP HIGHER SO THE LESS DISTANCE AGAIN, I MENTIONED HIP HEIGHT BEFORE IF YOU CAN KEEP YOUR HIPS HIGH AND LEVEL, THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THAT'S GOING TO KEEP — ALLOW YOU TO GET ON THE GROUND QUICKER NOW, IF YOU ARE ADJUSTING AND YOU'RE JUMPING, SO YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS FROM HIGH SCHOOL THAT YOUR COACH SAID WE DON'T JUMP THE HURDLES

WE RUN THE HURDLES MY COACH TOLD ME THAT IT'S NOT A JUMPING EVENT YOU DON'T WANT TO ADJUST YOUR RUNNING STYLE TOO MUCH OBVIOUSLY A LEAD LEG AND TRAIL LEG, YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GET OVER IT

BUT YOU AREN'T LIKE SETTING UP A PENULTIMATE STEP YOU'RE NOT I-TRYING TO LONG JUMP OR HIGH JUMP >> Will: YOU'RE NOT KIND OF RUNNING — >> Cooper: EXACTLY >> Will: YOU WANT TO HIT EVERYTHING IN STRIDE HERE WE ARE HEAT 2 OF THE 60M HURDLES

FOR THE MENS ETHAN MAXSON THEN DAVEY CLEVELAND RUNNING UNATTACHED FOR WICHITA STATE, COLLIN REICHENBERGER THEN CADEN SPAIN AND ADAM MUDGE AND DAVIS BAHNER BOTH OF WICHITA STATE

>> Cooper: AGAIN, IN THIS RACE, FROM WITCH THAT STATE, COLLIN RYCKENBURG YOU ARE E WHO IS A MULTI DAVIS BAHNER WE SAW BEFORE IN THE OVERLONG JUMP DID REALLY — DID WELL IN THE LONG JUMP HE'S A FRESHMAN YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL HURDLER HERE IN LANE 5

ADAM MUDGE FROM A SMALL TOWN OUT OF IOWA HE'S ACTUALLY A 400M HURDLER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE ADAM IS BUILT LIKE A 400M HURDLER >> Will: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> Cooper: HE'S GOT THE STRENGTH AND THE STRIDE AND THE HEIGHT FOR THE 400M HURDLES

THE 60 HURDLES, THE HEIGHT OF IT BECAUSE HE'S A FRESHMAN, BECAUSE HE'S COME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR HIM TO MASTER THAT HEIGHT AND THIS IS, AGAIN, ONLY HIS SECOND RACE SO I — HE WAS ACTUALLY IN THE LANE NEXT TO ME A MONTH AGO AND WE HAD A LITTLE BET GOING I WAS TELLING HIM YOU'RE GOING TO HATE THE DAY YOU LOST TO A GUY IS TEN YEARS OLDER THAN YOU

WELL, I DIDN'T BEAT HIM HE ENDED UP BEATING ME I THINK HIS HEIGHT HELPED HIM WIN OUT BUT HIS SPEED IS JUST NOT THERE AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THAT IN THIS RACE

HE'S JUST YOUNG AND THERE'S NO DISRESPECT IN SAYING THAT SOMEONE'S SPEED ISN'T UP TO PAR IF FOR WHAT THE HURDLES REQUIRE BECAUSE IT WILL HAPPEN IN THE WAY COACH RAINBOLT WILL DEVELOP AN ATHLETE LIKE THAT THROUGH THE HURDLES, YOU'LL SEE BY HIS JUNIOR YEAR OR HIS SENIOR YEAR, HE'S GOING TO BE A DOMINANT FORCE IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET USED TO THE HEIGHT OF THE HURDLES WHEN WE GO TO OUTDOOR, THE 400M HURDLES, IN HIGH SCHOOL IT'S THE 300M HURDLES

YOU'RE ADDING TWO MORE HURDLES AND 100 MORE METERS A GUY LIKE THAT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO DEVELOP IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE YOU THE JUST PICK UP AND KEEP GOING FROM HIGH SCHOOL IN LIKE THE LONG JUMP OR THE 60 OR 100M >> Will: WHAT'S THE PERFECT BODY HEIGHT, REAL QUICKLY HERE? ACTUALLY, WE'LL GET TO THAT LATER I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU ON BODY TYPE

LET'S NOW GET TO THE RESULTS OF THE WOMEN'S POLE VAULT ALWAYS A FUN — WHETHER YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TRACK AND FIELD OR NOT, THE POLE VAULT IS ALWAYS A FUN ONE TO WATCH BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY CRAZY >> Cooper: YEAH I'D TELL YOU, YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS HERE IN FIRST PLACE ALESA FREY

SHE'S A FANTASTIC ATHLETE IN EVERY DAY >> Will: SHE SLAUGHTERED THE COMPETITION BY LOOKING AT THAT >> Cooper: SHE REALLY DID SHE'S QUITE A SPECIAL ATHLETE COMING IN TO WICHITA STATE I BELIEVE THIS IS HER FIRST OR SECOND YEAR

I GOT TO KNOW HER A LITTLE BIT AT THE GOLF TOURNAMENT SHE'S A FANTASTIC GOLFER AS WELL WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW >> Will: MUST BE NICE >> Cooper: YOU'LL WATCH HER IN SOME OF THIS REPLAY

SHE IS A GYMNAST IN EVERY DAY SHE'S A POLE VAULTER IN EVERY DAY SHE HAS BODY CONTROL — >> Will: WHEN YOU SAY THAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? >> Cooper: EXACTLY YOU THE SEE IN THE POLE VAULT THE WHOLE GOAL IS GOAT THE POLE TO VERTICAL AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE NOW, YOU'RE BRINGING IN SPEED

YOU WANT TO RUN RELATIVELY FULL SPEED NOT OUT OF CONTROL BUT WHEN YOU GET IN THE AIR, THE KEY IS BODY CONTROL AND IT'S THE MOST UNNATURAL MOTION THAT YOU'LL EVER GO THROUGH AND SHE HANDLES HERSELF VERY, VERY WELL IN THAT EVENT

MEN'S — >> Will: YOU CAN HEAR A LOT OF HURDLES BEING SOLD IN THE YARD SALE BEHIND THESE RUNNERS RIGHT NOW >> Cooper: THAT'S THE THIRD HEAT AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD UNATTACHED FROM BUTLER, A GOOD RACE BETWEEN THE TARD SMITH FROM BUTLER AND CADEN GRIFFIN FROM WICHITA STATE KADEN IS A MULTIAS WELL HIS SEED TIME IS 8:36

THAT'S A GREAT MARK TRULY FOR A MULTI-EVENTER AND HIS BACKGROUND, IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THE HURDLES YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THE OTHER ATHLETES SWITCHING LEGS >> Will: HE LOOKED VERY WELL TIMED WITH HIS STEPS >> Cooper: EXACTLY

SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO WATCH IN THIS RACE AND WE'LL WATCH A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE NEXT HEAT AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE FINALS IS WATCHING THEIR ARMS WATCHING THEIR HEADS WATCHING THEIR BODY CONTROL YOU'LL SEE FEET GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE IF THEY'RE LETTING THE HURDLES AFFECT THEM, YOU'LL SEE THEIR ARMS GOING ALL OTHER THE PLACE

>> Will: LOOK LIKE THEY'RE DOING THE BREASTSTROKE ON LAND A LITTLE BIT >> Cooper: EXACTLY IF THEIR ARMS ARE GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE IT MEANS MAYBE THEY'RE GETTING VERTICAL OR TOO HIGH AND NOT USED TO THE LANDING THEN ALL OF THEY'RE MOMENTUM IS NOT DIRECTED TO GOING FORWARD THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THE HURDLES

SO — >> Will: WHAT'S THE PERFECT PROTOTYPE BODY FOR A HURDLER? >> Cooper: WELL >> COOPER: >> Will: HEIGHT AND — BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LOUIS EARLY HOW HE WAS SHORT AND KNOCKING OVER ALL THE HURDLES IN HIS LEAD LEG, YET HE WINS THAT HEAT >> Cooper: YEAH IT'S A REALLY HARD ANSWER I WOULD SAY IT DEPENDS

THE IDEAL BODY TYPE, I WOULD SAY WOULD BE 6'2" TO 6'4", STRONG ATHLETE GOOD SPEED, GOOD FLEXIBILITY SO THAT PLAYS WELL I JUST NAMED PROBABLY A GOOD ATHLETE IN EVERY SINGLE SPORT EVER >> Will: LET'S SEE, I'M 6'2" SO I'VE GOT THAT

I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEED OR ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE >> Cooper: EXACTLY >> Will: BUT I'M 6'2" >> Cooper: YEAH ME BEING — I'M A 5'11" GUY

I RAN HURDLES HERE >> Will: YEAH HOW DID YOU GET OVER THOSE? WERE THEY TALLER THAN YOU? >> Cooper: YEAH IT WAS A BIGGER ADJUSTMENT WE HAVE HURDLES COMING UP PAST YOUR BELLY BUTTON

YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENT AND YOU CAN OVERCOME THAT SOME BUT HEIGHT DOES HELP NOW, BEING 5'11" IT KIND OF PUTS YOU IN BETWEEN, YOU CAN TAKE EIGHT STEPS TO THE FIRST HURDLE, YOU CAN TAKE NINE — OR YOU CAN TAKE SEVEN STEPS TO FIRST HURDLE YOU SEE A LOT OF ELITE ATHLETES TAKE SEVEN STEPS BECAUSE OF POW AND HEIGHT THAT SAVES ENERGY LATER ON

THEY BUILD MOMENTUM THROUGH A SHORTER ATHLETE IS GOING TO TIRE OUT ESPECIALLY IN THE 10 HURDLES BETWEEN 6 AND 7 HURDLES THROUGH >> Will: SO LET'S GET TO HEAT 4 OF THE MEN'S 60M HURDLES THIS IS THE FINAL HEAT WE START FROM RIGHT TO LEFT

UNATTACHED FROM WICHITA STATE, DAVIS DUBBERT OKLAHOMA BAPTIST HAYDEN ASHLEY RUNNING UNATTACHED IS JOSH RAMIREZ BUT ALSO PART OF THE SHOCKER TRACK CLUB HOW DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT WORK? >> Cooper: WELL, TYLER KNIGHT FROM SHOCKER TRACK CLUB, HE'S AN ALUMNI

>> Will: I SEE TYLER KNIGHT NOT JOSH RAMIREZ IT WAS WRITTEN A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THEN IN 5, GRANT DOWNES AND GUS GUS GUS — CADIN GUSTAFSON

SHOCKER TRACK CLUB, ANYONE CAN ENTER? >> YEAH SO THESE ARE THE ALUMNI ATHLETES NOT NECESSARILY ALUMNI ATHLETES THESE ARE PROFESSIONAL AMATEUR ATHLETES, STILL COMPETING, COMPETING IN MAYBE NATIONAL EVENTS AUSTIN BAHNER WAS A PART OF THE SHOCKER TRACK CLUB

WE'VE HAD TODD MCKOWN BEFORE WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT ATHLETES CONTINUE TO COMPETE POST-COLLEGIATELY AND SHOCKER TRACK CLUB IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION TO KEEP THAT GOING IT WAS STARTED BY A SHOCKER TRACK ALUMNI AND IT'S LARGELY SUPPORTED BY ALUMNI AS WELL AND THAT ALLOWS ATHLETES TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO MAYBE GO TO MEETS OR FLY TO MEETS OR GO TO WORLDS OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR

BUT YOU CAN SEE TYLER KNIGHT, HE ACTUALLY WON THE INTRA-SQUAD HURDLES FOR THE ALUMNI TEAM A MONTH AGO HE COMPETED HERE IN POLE VAT >> Will: THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF BRAGGING RIGHTS WITH A LOT OF OLDER GUYS >> Cooper: EXACTLY YEAH

YEAH AND TYLER IS GREAT GUY HE WAS A FORMER MULTI POLE VAULTER, HURDLES THOSE ARE REALLY THE TWO HARDEST EVENTS WHEN YOU DO THE MULTI EVENTS THAT GUY IS A CONSIDERABLE ATHLETE HE HITS, IF WE SAW THE REPLAY, HE HIT QUITE A FEW HURDLES

HE'S ABOUT 5'9" AND BUT HE'S GOT SO MUCH POWER THE HURDLES DON'T REALLY AFFECT HIM TOO MUCH AS HE'S DRIVING THROUGH >> Will: ALL RIGHT SO WE HAVE COMING UP NEXT I GUESS THE WOMEN'S 6 60M

IS THAT RIGHT? >> Cooper: WE'LL GO BACK TO THE HURDLES ACTUALLY WELL, NO WE WILL GO TO THE 60M AND WE'LL HAVE THE WOMEN'S FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE FINALS OF BOTH OF THOSE EVENTS IN THE HURDLES AND THE 60 >> Will: ALL RIGHT

SO THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS BREAK HIT US UP ON TWITTER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT @KWCHWILL I'M STILL TRYING TO GET COOPER ON TWITTER BUT HE WON'T LISTEN TO ME WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS >> Cooper: WE ARE BACK WITH THE 60M PRELIMS FOR THE WOMEN

>> Will: THAT LOOKS LIKE A FUN ENDING THERE JUMP ON THE BIG CUSH YIB PAD AT THE — CUSHY RACE >> Will: THIS IS THE SPRINTS, NOT THE HURDLES >> Cooper: WE HAVE NO WICHITA STATE ATHLETES IN THAT FIRST HEAT WE HAVE FOUR HEATS OF THE WOMEN COMING UP HERE

ONE DOWN, THREE TO GO YOU'LL SEE, IN THIS EVENT WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IF YOU WERE QUICK IN HIGH SCHOOL, IT CAN TRANSLATE VERY WELL TO COLLEGIATE DASH RUNNING AND SPRINTING NOW, THE TRAINING IS DIFFERENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM HIGH SCHOOL TO COLLEGE IT'S WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN REALLY SURVIVE SOME OF THE INTENSE TRAINING THAT YOU MIGHT GO THROUGH AND ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, PUSH THAT STATE DOES A GREAT JOB — WICHITA STATE DOES A GREAT JOB AND COACH WISE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF THAT, CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS AS TO WHERE ATHLETES NEED TO BE AT BEFORE THE SEASON AND ESPECIALLY BY THAT FIRST MEET

BUT AGAIN, FIRST HEAT, FIRST EVENT COMING OFF OF A BREAK IS JUST ABOUT MAINTENANCE AS WELL >> Will: SO LET'S TAKE A LITTLE BIT — TAKE A LOOK BACK INTO TIME, IF YOU WILL, AT SOME OF THE FIELD EVENTS THE MEN'S HIGH JUMP, I BELIEVE, WE HAVE HERE THEY JUST — TRIPLE JUMP, EXCUSE ME THE MEN'S TRIPLE JUMP JUST WRAPPED UP HERE AT HESKETT CENTER, THE 0th ANNUAL SHOCKER PRELUDE

NOAH MYERS OF FRIENDS AND YOU DON'T SEE ANY WICHITA STATE ATHLETES ON THERE OUTSIDE OF YOU HAVE DENVER JACKSON AND ADE ADEFOLALU THAT ARE RUNNING UNATTACHED, OR COMPETING UNATTACHED >> Cooper: YEAH AND THE TRIPLE JUMP, TODAY'S FIELD WASN'T AN OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE I THINK SOME OF THESE ATHLETES ARE GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THEIR PERFORMANCE

A LOT OF WICHITA STATE'S KEY PERFORMERS IN THE FLIP L JUMP, IN THE MEN'S TRIPLE JUMP, JARED BELARDO BEING ONE OF THEM NOT HERE, NOT COMPETING TODAY JARED'S JUMPING OVER FIFTH FEET THAT'S A RARE — OVER 50 FEET THAT'S A RARE ATHLETE THE WINNER BEING FROM FRIENDS WITH A JUMP OF 43

4, THAT'S A GREAT JUMP BUT YOU HOPE TO EXTEND THAT LATER ON IN THE SEASON AND IN THE INDOOR SEASON AND THE TRIPLE JUMP IS ONE WHERE YOU CAN DO THAT >> Will: THIS IS A LIVE LOOK AT THE WOMEN'S 60M, HEAT 2 OF 4 RIGHT TO LEFT, DEJANECE THOMAS UNATTACHED FROM WICHITA STATE

FRIENDS IS JESSICA DEWEESE EMPORIA STATE'S LINDSAY POAGUE UNATTACHED FROM BUTLER COMMUNITY COLLEGE TAILA FAGAN LATIYERA YEARGIN OF EMPORIA STATE AND BEYEL TUBBS OF OKLAHOMA BAPTIST >> Cooper: YOU SAW A PRETTY GOOD RUN THERE FROM THE SENIOR FROM EMPORIA, LINDSAY POAGUE

AGAIN, THE PRELIMS IN ANY SORT OF RACE IS A GREAT TIME FOR YOU TO SETTLE IN THE BLOCKS, RELAX A LITTLE BIT MORE, NOT WORRY ABOUT WINNING, JUST TRY TO WIN YOUR HEAT, TRY TO GET A GOOD TIME OUT THERE THERE'S NO USE IN FALSE STARTING THERE'S NO USE IN TRYING TO JUST DOMINATE THE RACE IT'S REALLY KIND OF A SURVIVE AND ADVANCE MENTALITY >> Will: SO THIS IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE RESULT AS MUCH AS IT IS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, UNDERSTANDING, GETTING YOUR BODY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO MENTALLY, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, GETTING A FEEL FOR THE START, THE RACE AND THEN THE FINISH ITSELF? , EXACTLY, YEAH

IT'S JUST TO BUILD CONFIDENCE AND ESPECIALLY GET USED TO THAT STARTER'S TIMING, YOU KNOW EACH STARTER HAS THEIR OWN DIFFERENT TIMING IT WILL ALSO CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF THE MEET SO THAT FIRST HEAT, THAT FIRST RACE, THEY MAY BE SHOOTING THAT GUN OFF VERY, VERY QUICKLY AND LATER ON IN THE MEET, THE STARTER MIGHT GET SETTLED IN AND THAT MIGHT CHANGE SOME, TOO

BUT IT'S JUST GOOD TO GET A RACE UNDER YOUR BELT, GET THE JITTERS OUT, KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE GOING INTO THE FINAL ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE RUN WELL IN THE PRELIM AND THEN IT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IF YOU'RE AN ATHLETE THAT'S KIND OF RIGHT ON THE EDGE OR ON THE BUBBLE, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO THROW OUT A GOOD PERFORMANCE AND THEN COME THROUGH THE LINE HOPEFULLY AT THE FINALS LEVEL AND COMPETE WITH SOME BETTER ATHLETES >> Will: NOW WE'RE ENTERING HEAT 3 JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA AS YOU LOOK AT THE CLOCK ON THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND OF YOUR SCREEN, THE HESKETT RECORD IS ALSO THE SHOCKER PRELUDE RECORD SET BY RAMONA BURCHELL OF BUTLER COUNTY COMMUNITY THAT WAS 7

34 IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST THE TIMES ON YOUR SCREEN, THAT'S THE BUILDING RECORD AS WELL AS THE SHOCKER PRELUDE RECORD NOW AGAIN FROM RIGHT TO LEFT, CARLEA MILES OF WICHITA STATE OKLAHOMA BAPTIST LEAH MOLTER EMPORIA STATE'S MALACIA LEE

FRIEND'S NATALI ENGLE JAZMIN WILLIAMS OF EMPORIA STATE AND ON THE OUTSIDE MEGHANN HOLMES OF WICHITA STATE >> Cooper: CARLEA MILES HAS BEEN EVERYWHERE TODAY SHE WAS IN THE LONG JUMP EARLIER

SHE JUST RAN NOT TEN MINUTES AGO THE 60 HURDLES NOW SHE'S HOPPED HERE IN THE 60 I BELIEVE SHE'S A MULTI, AND SO COMING IN AS A MULTI-EVENTER, AGAIN GETTING AS MANY EVENTS IN AS YOU CAN AND GETTING USED TO THOSE EVENTS IS GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL >> Will: THAT'S MEGHAN HOLMES I KNOW A MEGHANN FROM HOME

SO THERE YOU GO WE'RE LOOKING, DO YOU EXPECT THAT 734 TO FALL TODAY IN THIS NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS HEAT? >> Cooper: I DO NOT YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY HARD TO BE THAT GOOD THIS EARLY IN THE SEASON A GREAT RUN HERE IN LANE 5 FROM EMPORIA STATE

THAT IS JAZMIN WILLIAMS I DON'T THINK TODAY WE'RE GOING TO SEE TOO MANY PERFORMANCES THAT ARE GOING TO BLOW THE MEET RECORDS UP THERE ARE SOME GOOD PERM RECORDS AND THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THE MEET >> Will: ALL ABOUT YOU >> Cooper: IT'S SO EARLY IN THE SEASON TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO — IT'S NOT TIME TO WORRY ABOUT WHERE YOU SIT IN THE CONFERENCE

IT'S NOT TIME TO WORRY ABOUT I WOULD THINK OF THE SHOCKER PRELUDE AS A PRELIM MEET YOU'RE COMING IN OFF A BREAK YOU NEED TO GET THE JITTERS OUT YOU NEED TO GET USED TO COMPETING EVEN THE PRELUDE EVENT IS GREAT FOR THAT ESPECIALLY FOR THESE OTHER ATHLETES FROM DIVISION II SCHOOLS OR NAIA, BUTLER COMMUNITY COLLEGE

KNOW THERE MAY NOT BE MUCH DIFFERENCE IN THE LEVEL OF ATHLETE COMING OUT OF THOSE SCHOOLS SO IT'S PRETTY GOOD COMPETITION EVEN FOR THE WICHITA STATE ATHLETES WHO MAY BE IN A BETTER CONFERENCE AND MAY BE DIVISION I, BUT GETTING TO COMPETE AND BUILD CONFIDENCE AGAINST ATHLETES WHO ARE CLOSE TO PAR WITH THEM AND MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OUTSTANDING THAN THEY'LL FACE LATER ON, TOO >> Will: IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT FROM THE FRESHMEN THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO GET A FEEL FOR THE COLLEGIATE MEET? >> Cooper: YEAH I WOULD SAY — THE INTERSQUAD IS A GREAT EVENT AT WICHITA STATE IT'S WHERE YOU'RE COMPETING AGAINST YOU'RE OTHER TEAMMATES

BUT YEAH, THIS MEET IS JUST A GOOD TIME FOR YOU TO GO, OKAY, GREAT YOU KNOW I GOT A TIME YOU'RE NOT ON ANY SORT OF RECORD BOOK YOU'RE NOT ON — YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO BREAK RECORDS

YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GET A COLLEGIATE TIME MY FIRST AND LAST — >> Will: YOU OFFICIALLY BECOME AN NCAA ATHLETE WHEN THAT GUN GETS FIRED >> Cooper: EXACTLY UNFORTUNATELY MY FIRST AND LAST COLLEGIATE HURDLE RACE I FALSE STARTED >> Will: GREAT

GET OUT OF THE BOOTH! >> Cooper: YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SHOW UP AND JUMP THE GUN TOO MUCH BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO EXCITED YOU JUST WANT TO GET A RACE UNDER YOUR BELT >> Will: HERE WE HAVE JORDYN HARMON OF EMPORIA STATE BUTLER COMMUNITY COLLEGE'S KAI LEWIS

DEJA YOUNG WHO YOU HEARD FROM EARLIER JENNY PINKSTON WILL TALK A LOT ABOUT HER, SHE'S ONE OF THE BEST ATHLETES TO COME THROUGH WICHITA STATE ALSO WE HAVE JALEN MILLIGAN ON THE OUTSIDE RUNNING UNATTACHED FOR THE SHOCKERS WHAT'S IT LIKE HAVING AN ATHLETE AND WOMAN LIKE DEJA YOUNG IN YOUR PROGRAM? >> Cooper: WELL, DEJA YOUNG BRINGS MORE THAN JUST HER SPEED TO THE TEAM SHE'S GOT GREAT CHARACTER

SHE'S GOT A GREAT ATTITUDE SHE'S SUPPORT I OF ALL THE — SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THE OTHER ATHLETES SHE'S A GOOD LEADER FOR THE TEAM AND, YES, SHE IS AN OUTSTANDING RUNNER IN THE PARALYMPICS AND COLLEGIATE TRACK, BEING A GOLD MEDALIST ISN'T TOO SHABBY AS WELL >> Will: WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR RECRUITING TO HAVE A GOLD MEDALIST ON YOUR ROSTER AT A SCHOOL LIKE WICHITA STATE? >> Cooper: YEAH

HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE HIGH PROFILE RECRUITS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, DEJA GOING TO THE PARALYMPICS SHE'S IN THE NEWS, GETTING INTERVIEWED, PEOPLE SEE HER AND KNOW WHERE SHE GOES TO SCHOOL YES, SHE COMPETES FOR THE US, BUT SHE'S STILL A COLLEGIATE ATHLETE SO WHERE DOES SHE COMPETE? WICHITA STATE

SO I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE LEVEL OF RECRUITING THAT WICHITA STATE TRACK COACHING STAFF DOES BUT ALSO HOW ATTRACTIVE IT IS TO ELITE ATHLETES TO COMPETE FOR A TEAM LIKE THIS >> Will: IT'S REMARKABLE, I REMEMBER WHEN SHE WON THAT GOLD MEDAL WHEN SHE GOT OFF THE PLANE AT EISENHOWER PEOPLE WERE WAITING FOR HER WITH BALLOONS AND STREAMERS AND CONFETTI AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU WAIT FOR SOMEBODY THAT ESTABLISHES A GOLD MEDAL AND IT WAS A HUGE DEAL NOT ONLY FOR WICHITA STATE BUT FOR THE CITY OF WICHITA

IT'S A HUGE DEAL TO HAVE DEJA YOUNG REPRESENT THE CITY OF WICHITA AS WELL >> Cooper: ABSOLUTELY YEAH SHE'S QUITE A GAL AND IT'S FUN TO SEE HER, KNOWING THAT SHE HAS SOME MORE COMPETITION UNDER HER AT THE COLLEGIATE LEVEL I HAVE NO DOUBT SHE MAY TRY TO GO PROFESSIONAL AS WELL

SHE'LL KEEP RUNNING FOR AS LONG AS SHE CAN KEEP UP AND MAYBE SHE'LL SETTLE FOR A BRONZE TOWARDS THE END OF HER CAREER [ LAUGHTER ] BUT I THINK SHE CAN KEEP COMPETING FOR QUITE A LONG TIME >> Will: SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO START THE MEN'S 60M AND WE ARE GOING TO GO FROM RIGHT TO LEFT

RUNNING UNATTACHED, THE FRESHMAN DAVIN SIMMS EMPORIA STATE'S JORDAN REID NOAH MYERS OUT OF FRIENDS RUNNING UNATTACHED, JAVAUGH SPICER CLIFFORD ROBINSON

NOT THE FIRST, SECOND, BUT THE THIRD WICHITA STATE BRAYDEN GLADES FROM EMPORIA STATE >> Cooper: SO WITH THE HURDLES WE SAW THE TOP SIX ADVANCE WE LEAVE A LANE OPEN JUST SO THERE'S NOBODY HITTING HURDLES AND RUNNING INTO THE CROWD OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN THE 60M DASH WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE TOP SEVEN

SO THAT GIVES ONE MORE PERSON A CHANCE TO MAKE THE FINALS >> Will: AND THIS IS THE BEST I MEAN THE 100M DASH OF COURSE IS FAVORITES FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, 110 BUT THIS IS JUST RAW SPEED, GO ON THE GUN, RUN BECAUSE WHEN THE OLYMPICS COME AROUND IN THE SUMMERTIME, THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT, ARE THESE EVENTS

>> Cooper: SURE >> Will: THIS EVENT >> Cooper: YEAH AND THERE'S HIGH PROFILE ATHLETES THAT BRING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THAT >> Will: A LOT OF PERCHALTIES

>> Cooper: IT COMES DOWN TO MAYBE SOCIETY'S ATTENTION SPAN AS WELL THEY'RE NOT — PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE MORE INCLINED — SO FEN, THE 60M IS A RACE REALLY YOU CAN HOLD YOUR BREATH IN AND BE FINE I WANT TO POINT OUT CLIFFORD ROBINSON III HERE COMPETES FOR WICHITA STATE HE'S GOING TO BE A FANTASTIC ATHLETE

JUST A FRESHMAN FOR WICHITA STATE HE WINS THAT HEAT >> Will: HIS BODY IS SO STILL WHEN HE'S RUNNING >> Cooper: EXACTLY >> Will: THERE'S NO HEAD MOVEMENT

WHEN YOU WATCH THE LONGER RACES YOU MOST THE HANDS WILL START FLAILING, THE HEAD WILL START TO GO LEFT TO RIGHT HIS HEAD IS DEAD STILL SHOULDERS RARELY MOVE ALL OF HIS MOTION IS — ALL OF HIS POWER IS CONCENTRATED IN JUST GOING FORWARD >> Cooper: EXACTLY

HE'S A VERY TRIM — NOW, YOU COMPARE HIM TO SOMEONE LIKE TYSON GAY OR EVEN SOME OTHER PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES WHO ARE A LITTLE BIT BULKIER AND A LITTLE BIT MORE POWER NOT THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE MUSCLE AND THE POWER AND THE CAPACITY, BUT HE'S MORE OF A FLEET FOOT AND IN BEING LIGHT ON YOUR FEET CAN BE VERY, VERY USEFUL IN COLLEGE ESPECIALLY >> Cooper: YOU — >> Will: YOU JUST SEE HOW QUIET HE IS WHEN HE RUNS >> Cooper: EXACTLY

>> Will: NOT A LOT OF NOISE VERY LITTLE MOVEMENT >> Cooper: HE'S RUNNING IN SLIPPERS >> Will: YEAH [ LAUGHTER ] >> Cooper: I HAVE NO DOUBT WE WILL DEFINITELY SEE HIM IN THE FINAL AS WELL

>> Will: ALL RIGHT HERE WE GO WITH HEAT 2 OF 4 STARTING RIGHT FROM LEFT AGAIN, FRIENDS IS JONATHAN AHUMADA MALCOLM DADE FROM EMPORIA STATE WICHITA STATE'S ERICK NGAIZA

STEVEN SIMILARRONS FROM BUTLER MICAH BREWER AND LAVAUGHNTE MINNIS >> Cooper: IT GO — I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WHEN I WAS COMPETING A MONTH AGO, ERICK JUST INTRODUCED HIMSELF AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHO I AM I HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND TOO OFTEN BUT ERICK INTRODUCED HIMSELF

>> Will: SHAME ON THAT >> Cooper: HE'S A GREAT GUY FROM TANZANIA VERY, VERY TALENTED ATHLETE A TRANSFER ATHLETE AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HIM AT WICHITA STATE ESPECIALLY

>> Will: AND SPEAKING OF NOT KNOWING, A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW YOU, BUT NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW SEVEN LANGUAGES ERICK NEIGHS SPEAKS SEVEN LANGUAGE — SPEAKS SEVEN LANG WANINGS I HARDLY KNOW SEVEN WORDS IN THE ENGLISH DICTIONARY SEVEN LANGUAGES GOOD HEAVENS

>> Cooper: I DON'T KNOW HOW INTIMIDATING THAT IS ON THE TRACK >> Will: HE CAN YELL AT YOU IN SEVEN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES SCHAMENT I WOULD BE SO INTIMIDATED I'M SORRY, SIR >> Cooper: THAT'S RIGHT >> Will: GOOD HEAVENS

I THAT'S RIGHT >> Will: SO WHAT KIND OF ATHLETE DO WE EXPECT FROM HIM? AND WHAT KIND OF RUN ARE WE EXPECTING FROM HIM THIS SEASON? >> Cooper: WELL, YOU KNOW — >> Will: HE'S ONE OF THE SENIORS HERE IRING'S HE IS A SENIOR HE'S EXPERIENCED HE'S GOING TO BE A GOOD CONTRIBUTOR FOR THE TEAM

AND THE AMERICAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE HE MAY NOT BE THE TOP 60M RUNNER, BUT HE'S GOT PLENTY OF SEASON TO DEVELOP THAT AND ESPECIALLY I THINK THE EXPERIENCE HELPS A LOT >> Will: BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FRESHMEN THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNG TALENT OUT HERE AS WE'VE TOUCHED ON >> Cooper: SO HAVING LEADERS LIKE HIM WITH GOOD CHARACTER AND WHO ARE GOING TO HELP THE OTHER GUYS AS FAR AS TRAINING AND JUST THINGS IN THE OFFSEASON AS WELL, HE'S A GREAT GUY FOR THAT

OUT EARLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRACK THAT'S IN LANE 3 — OR IN LANE 4 SORRY UNATTACHED FROM BUTLER COUNTY >> MILES LAFLUER

HE IS, YOU CAN TELL HIS BUILD IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF THE REST HE'S A LARGER GENTLEMAN >> Cooper: STEVEN SIMMONS ACTUALLY AND HE TOO, THERE SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE 60 M AS WELL, THERE'S FIVE PHASES TO IT

I KNOW THAT'S ONLY — YOU ONLY HAVE SIX SETS OF 10 METERS EACH BUT THERE'S FIVE PHASES TO THAT 60M DASH AND EVERYONE THINKS THE START IS MOST IMPORTANT IT REALLY IS BUT YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE IN SHAPE THAT MAY DOMINATE THE START AND THEY'RE GET OUT AND THEY'RE WINNING 30M INTO THE RACE

BUT THEY MAY EVEN DIE OUT IN THE LAST 10M SO IT'S ABOUT CLEARING THE BLOCKS IT'S ABOUT DRIVING AND THEN TRANSITIONING UP TO FULL HEIGHT I MEAN YOU WANT TO KEEP DRIVING AND LEANING FORWARD AND LOOKING 10 METERS DOWN THE TRACK BUT YOU DO WANT TO HAVE THE LONGEST STRIDE POSSIBLE

THERE'S A REASON USAIN BOLT IS THE WORLD RECORD HOLDER IT'S NOT BECAUSE HE STAYS IN A DRIVE POSITION AND TAKES SHORT POWERFUL STRIDES HE HAS VERY, VERY LONG STRIDES SO IF YOU CAN TAKE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF STEPS POSSIBLE IN THE QUICKEST AMOUNT OF TIME OVER 60 METERS >> Will: ALL RIGHT

THAT WILL WRAP UP OUR BROADCAST YOU'VE HEARD FROM COOPER HANNING, PICK THEM UP AND PUT THEM DOWN AS FEW A TIME AS POSSIBLE >> Cooper: I HOPE YOU LEARNED SOMETHING TODAY, YEAH >> Will: THAT'S WHY I WAS NEVER FAST I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO TAKE AS MANY STEPS AS I CAN

[ LAUGHTER ] SO THIS IS HEAT 3 OF 4 IN THE MEN'S 60M CAME KUHN — GABE CUBE OF FRIENDS FOLLOWED BY DEVONTRAE YOUNG, JAMAL CURRY, MYLES LAFLUER OF BUTLER COMMUNITY COLLEGE RUNNING UNATTACHED AND CALEN RAGSDALE AND CALEB STEWART OF OKLAHOMA BAPTIST WE HAVE TWO JUNIORS NO SENIORS THREE FRESHMEN

A LOT OF UNFAMILIARITY WITH THE ATHLETES AND WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN AND COMPETE IN A COLLEGIATE ATMOSPHERE >> Cooper: YEAH I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THESE FRESHMEN TO AGAIN GET A RACE UNDER THEIR BELT, COMPETE WITH SOME OTHER ATHLETES WHO MAY DOMINATE THEM YOU CAN SEE UNATTACHED FROM BUTLER MYLES LEFLEUR HE'S ENTERED AT A 6

88 WILL HE RUN THAT TODAY? PROBABLY NOT BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A RUN OUT OF SOMEONE LIKE THAT, THIS EARLY THERE'S ONLY ONE FASTER, ANOTHER GUY FROM BUTLER BUTLER HAS GOT SOME GREAT SPRINTERS AND THEY'VE HAD GREAT HURDLERS IN THE PAST

THEY DO A GREAT JOB AT RECRUITING AND A LOT OF THEM GO ON MAYBE TO SOME COME TO WICHITA STATE WE'VE SEEN MORE GO TO MAYBE K-STATE, KU, THOSE TYPES OF LEVELS OF SCHOOLS BUT THOSE ARE GREAT SPRINTING SCHOOLS AS WELL SO IT'S EASY TON ATTRACTED TO THAT >> Will: SO HE RUNS A 6

88, SO IT SAYS HERE BUT WHY WOULDN'T ONE TRY TO PUT THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD EVERY SINGLE RACE? IS IT KIND OF LIKE IN GOLF, YOU WORK ON YOUR SWING, YOU WORK ON THINGS HERE AND THERE AND IT'S THE END GAME THAT YOU'RE WORKING TOWARDS? >> Cooper: YEAH

HE WOULD PUT HIS BEST FOOT FORWARD, SORRY IN THE PRELIMS AGAIN, HE'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE FINALS ODDS AREGOOD HE'S GOING TO MAKE FINALS I SAY HE'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO RUN A 688 TODAY

WE WOULDN'T SEE THAT IN THE PRELIMS MOST LIKELY IF THAT'S HIS SEED TIME USUALLY YOU'RE COMING IN YOUR SEED TIMES, OFTENTIMES YOUR PR IF THE COACH WANTS YOU TO BE IN A DIFFERENT HEAT OR IT SETS YOU BACK AND YOU CAN — YOU PROBABLY WON'T BE SEEDED FASTER THAN HOW YOU RUN YOU'LL MOST LIKELY IN A MEET THIS EARLY TAKE A TIME FROM LAST YEAR AND A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU TAKE THE TIME FROM LAST YEAR AND 688 WAS WHAT HE RAN AT THE END OF THE SEASON, THEN THAT'S A LITTLE EARLY TO SAY THAT HE'S GOING TO RUN 6

88 AGAIN SO NOT THAT HE COULDN'T GET TO THAT LEVEL TODAY, BUT I WOULD SAY MOST OF THE TIME THEIR SEED TIME IS A LITTLE — THE SEED TIME IS A LITTLE CONFUSING AND MISLEADING >> Will: SO IN A MEAT LIKE THIS, THE SHOCKER PRELUDE, WHAT PERCENTAGE IS PUT ON AN EMPHASIS OF WINNING VS THE PERCENTAGE THAT IS PUT TOWARDS GETTING BETTER AND WORKING ON YOUR CRAFT AND WORKING ON A PARTICULAR PART OF YOUR RUN? >> Cooper: THAT'S THE TEMPTATION I THINK OF ATHLETES AND THE REASON WE HAVE COACHES ENTIRELY

THAT FIRE AND DRIVE CAN ACTUALLY GET YOU IN TROUBLE EARLY IN THE SEASON YOU CAN GET INJURED RIGHT NOW IT'S REALLY COLD OUTSIDE IN WICHITA IF YOU'RE A CROSS COUNTRY RUNNER AND RUNNING OUTSIDE AND WARMING UP OR YOU JUST WALKED IN FROM THE PARKING LOT AND YOU'RE COLD, MAYBE YOU WARMED UP SOME, GREAT BUT IF YOU'RE OUT TO KILL IT AND WIN, THEN MAYBE YOU'RE BEHIND IN A RACE AND YOU TRY TO PUSH IT TOO MUCH AND PULL A HAMSTRING OR WHATEVER THAT'S GOING TO HURT THE SEASON OBVIOUSLY

SO KEEPING YOUR WITS ABOUT YOU, KNOWING THAT THIS MEET TRUTHFULLY DOESN'T MATTER IN THE LONG RUN OF THE SEASON COACH RAINBOLT PUSHES THE CONFERENCE MEET AS THE KEY MEET OF THE YEAR NOT A LOT OF COACHES DO THAT A LOT OF COACHES WANT TO FOCUS ON NATIONALS IT DEPENDS ON THAT LEVEL

A TEAM LIKE KU, THEY DON'T COMPETE AS A TEAM TYPICALLY VERY WELL IN THE CONFERENCE MEET BUT THEY HAVE OUTSTANDING ATHLETES SO THEY'RE JUST NOT SCORING A LOT IN THE CONFERENCE MEET WHEREAS YOU TAKE WICHITA STATE, YES, WE HAVE OUTSTANDING ATHLETES BUT COACH RAINBOLT PUSHING THAT TEAM-BASED MENTALITY AND SCORING AT THE CONFERENCE MEET ALLOWS YOU TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD THAN, HEY, THIS IS MY WEEKEND WARRIOR, I'M GOING TO WIN THIS RACE AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS >> Will: FOR ANYONE THAT'S VIEWING THAT'S PROBLEMS NOT IN TUNE WITH THE TRACK AND FIELD WORLD, I PLAYED COLLEGIATE BASEBALL AND I THINK THE BEST THING THAT YOU JUST — DO IN PARTICULAR IS THAT'S WHY WE HAVE COACHES SPIRALLY IS BECAUSE THEY KIND OF PULL THE REIGNS BACK ON YOU AND FORCE YOU TO FOCUS ON WHAT YOU NEED TO FOCUS VERSUS THAT COMPETITION ASPECT AND COMPETITOR COMING OUT OF YOU WANTING TO WIN EVERY TIME WHEN I PLAYED BASEBALL IN SPRING TRAINING FOR INSTANCE, IT WAS YOUR FIRST TIME YOU WEREN'T THROWING TO YOUR OWN TEAMMATES

IT'S A GAME BUT MORE THAN INTERSQUAD AS A PITCHER YOU STILL WANT TO STRIKE EVERYONE OUT WHEN COACH SAYS YOU GOTTA GO OUT THERE AND JUST THROW THESE TWO PITCHES, YOU'RE LIMITED THAT WAY AND THEY FORCE YOU TO GET BETTER AND FORCE YOU TO IMPROVE IN A CERTAIN ASPECT OF A GAME VERSUS GOING OUT THERE TO GET OUTS BECAUSE YOU CAN LOOK AT THE END OF THE ENDING AND SAY I GOT THE THREE OUTS, I DID MY JOB NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN BETTER AT PERFECTING YOUR CRAFT AND WORKING ON THE CURVEBALL OR HURDLES OR WHATEVER

THAT'S HOW I CAN RELATE TO THAN,I CAN SAY THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I'VE HEARD BASEBALL COMPARED WELL TO TRACK IN ANY WAY >> Will: WELL, YOU'RE WELCOME JENNY PINKSTON, I HEAR YOU HAVE NOW FOUND A GUEST WHO DO YOU HAVE WITH YOU? >> Jenny: I DO SO NOW JOINING ME IS HUNTER

HE IS A MULTI-SPECIALIST HE'S FROM KANSAS, HE'S A SENIOR SO SHE'S CURRENTLY RANKED FIRST IN THE NATION IN THE PEN@LONG AFTER COMPETING IN THE INTERSQUAD MEET THE BEGINNING OF THIS LAST DECEMBER SO HUNTER, HOW ARE YOU FEELING AFTER GETTING FIRST IN THE NATION? >> I'M FEELING GREAT IT'S NOT OVER YET

WE HAVEN'T MADE IT THERE BUT IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO START AND I'M HAPPY WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW >> Jenny: GREAT SO TEN EVENTS IS A LOT

HOW DID YOU KIND OF GET STARTED WITH THE DECATHLON? >> IN HIGH SCHOOL I HAD SOME EXPERIENCE IN DIFFERENT EVENTS AND EVEN SOME CROSS COUNTRY EXPERIENCE SO IT WAS KIND OF SIMPLE I JUST HAD TO ADD A COUPLE EVENTS AND THEN I WAS A DECATHLON MAN SO IT WAS A PRETTY EASY CHOICE >> Jenny: I'M SURE BOLT TALKED YOU INTO IT BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF HIS FAVORITES

>> OF COURSE >> Jenny: SO DID YOU DO ANY OTHER SPORTS IN HIGH SCHOOL? >> CROSS COUNTRY AND TRACK AND THEN I DID ONE YEAR OF BASKETBALL >> Jenny: THAT'S AWESOME OKAY

SO WHEN YOU WERE FIRST LEARNING THE DECATHLON, WAS THERE ONE EVENT THAT WAS MORE CALEDGE — CHALLENGING TO LEARN THAN THE OTHER? >> POLE VAULT PROBABLY AND STILL TO THIS DAY IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING EVENT FOR ME I HAVE THE LEAST EXPERIENCE IN POLE VAULT IT WAS THE HARDEST TO PICK UP BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON IN THE EVENT AND I THINK I WILL, THROUGH MY CAREER IT WILL BE ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING >> Jenny: AND WHAT ABOUT YOUR FAVORITE EVENT? >> PROBABLY POLE VAULT AGAIN

JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH THERE THERE'S SO MUCH TO LEARN AND I FEEL LIKE IT IS AN EVENT THAT EACH AND EVERY DAY YOU CAN LEARN SOMETHING AND YOU'LL NEVER GET TIRED OF IT >> Jenny: OKAY SO YOU SET THE BAR PRETTY HIGH FOR THE INTERSQUAD MEET, BECOMING FIRST IN THE NATION

IS THERE ANOTHER GOAL THAT YOU FOR THE INDOOR SEASON? >> MY OFFICIAL SCORE WAS RIGHT UNDER 6,000 POINTS AND I THINK MY GOAL THIS YEAR WOULD AT LEAST TO HIT THAT 6,000 POINT MEET >> Jenny: THAT WOULD BE A GREAT GOAL WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MEETING WITH US, HUNTER AND — OH WAIT

YOU'RE GOING TO ALSO COMPETE ON SATURDAY AT THE TRIANGULAR MEET WHAT EVENTS ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING THEN? >> HURDLES AND POLE VAULT >> Jenny: WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THEN AND THANKS FOR TALKING TO US OKAY

BACK TO YOU, WILL >> Will: ALL RIGHT AWESOME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JENNY AND HUNTER WE ARE NOW SETTING UP FOR THE HURDLES ONE MORE TIME SO WE'LL TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND WE'LL COME BACK AND HAVE THAT FOR YOU

WE'LL HAVE THE 60M HURDLES AFTER THE BREAK ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE SO DO NOT MOVE! WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK >> Will: WELCOME BACK TO THE HESKETT CENTER FOR THE 10TH ANNUAL SHOCKER PRELUDE, I'M WILL KUNKEL ALONGSIDE COOPER MANNING JENNY WILL JOIN YOU WITH A FEW INTERVIEWS

YOU CAN JOIN US WITH ANY QUESTIONS, MAKE SURE YOU JOIN IN AND SHARE THE LINK AT YOUTUBE AS WELL, SO EVERYBODY CAN GET INFORMED BY COOPER MANNING, SHOCKER SUPPORT IS PROVIDED BY THE ENERGY PARTNERS I'D LIKE TO THANK LARRY AND SUSIE FOR THE SHOCKER PRELUDE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF SHOCKER TRACK, AND FIELD SO WHAT DO WE HAVE COMING UP HERE REAL QUICKLY? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? >> Cooper: WE ARE BACK TO THE FINALS OF THE WOMEN'S 60M HURDLE, SO HE WE SAW THESE ATHLETES COMPETE EARLIER TODAY, WE ARE NOW WITH THE TOP SIX IN — IN THE EVENT AND SO WE'LL SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES, HOPEFULLY A FEW FROM WICHITA STATE, AND YOU CAN SEE THEM, THEY'RE WARMING UP RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A LITTLE BREAK FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE COMPETING KIND OF BACK TO BACK IN BACK TO BACK EVENTS LIKE WE SAW, CARLEA CARLEA MILES FROM WICHITA STATE DO A LITTLE EARLIER I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF HUNTER VEITH, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RECRUITING AND HOW WELL THE WICHITA STATE COACHING STAFF DOES YOU KNOW, HUNTER VEITH IS OUT OF A SMALL TOWN JUST WEST OF WICHITA, CHENEY, KANSAS

THE LEVEL OF ATHLETE — >> Will: HE'S A FRESHMAN, CORRECT? >> Cooper: HUNTER VEITH IS NOT A FRESHMAN, NO, HE'S NOT, HE'S BEEN AROUND A LITTLE WHILE, AND HE'S — YOU KNOW, HE'S — HE'S IN HIS LAST YEAR >> Will: THE OPPOSITE OF FRESHMAN >> Cooper: I WAS TRYING TO BE NICE AND — >> Will: JUST CUT THE MIC OFF >> Cooper: THAT'S PART OF IT SO HUNTER COMING OUT OF CHENEY, HE'S HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS AND DEVELOPMENT AND NOW HE'S COMING INTO JUST DOMINANCE, PURE DOMINANCE AS A SENIOR, SEEING THAT IN THE MULTI EVENT, YOU KNOW, RAINBOLT RECRUITS A LOT OF MULTI EVENTERS, HE GETS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THE DECATHLON

IT'S NOT A HIGH SCHOOL EVENT SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND MANY GUYS WHO ARE EXPERIENCED IN IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HOW GREAT BE OF AN ATHLETE COMES OUT OF CHENEY, KANSAS, ON A REGULAR BASIS I HAD A FEW GUYS THAT I COMPETED WITH HERE WICHITA STATE, ERIN YOUNG, JUSTIN HICKEY AS WELL, AND THERE'S A FEW POLE VAULTERS, THEY GOT A GREAT POLE VAULT PROGRAM, BUT HUNTER'S REALLY JUST TOPPED THEM ALL IN WHAT HE'S BEEN ABLE TO DO AND ACCOMPLISH IN HIS CAREER, AND IT'S ALL HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WHEN IT NEEDS TO MATTER MOST, AS HE IS A SENIOR >> Will: CHENEY'S GOT QUITE AN ATHLETIC PROGRAM OUT THERE, THEIR BASKETBALL TEAM IS COMPETITIVE (LOST AUDIO) CONTRIBUTING TO THE LOCAL UNIVERSITIES FROM AN ATHLETE'S STANDPOINT HERE, SO AS WE GET READY HERE, THIS IS THE FINALS OF THE WOMEN'S 60M HURDLES, AND IS THERE ANYTHING YOU EXPECT TO SEE HERE? WE HAVE ALEX ON YOUR RIGHT, AND, SCHEDULES I BAKER, RUNNING UNATTACHED WITH WICHITA STATE IS SARAH HINES, AND THE LAST TWO RUNNERS, JORDYN HARMON >> Will: >> Cooper: YOU SEE THEM GETTING OUT WELL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRACK, WEBSTER IN THE FIRST HEAT, THAT IS THE MULTI, IN FIRST IS THE MULTI OUT OF FRIENDS UNIVERSITY, THAT IS CHELSEA BAKER, SAW HER IN THE LONG JUMP EARLIER, LOOKS LIKE SHE HAD A GREAT RUN, I THINK SHE'S GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH THAT

WE'LL SEE WHAT THE TIMES COME UP WITH LATER, >> Will: I WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION AS POLITICALLY CORRECT AS POSSIBLE SCHEDULESY BAKER HAS DONE EXTREMELY WELL FOR HERSELF NATURALLY AND DOING WELL TODAY TODAYS A EXPECTED HOW DOES THAN ATHLETIC OF HER CALIBER, WITH ALL THE RESPECT TOWARDS FRIENDS AS A PROGRAM, COAL COLE DAVIS DOING AN IMMACULATE JOB RECRUITING, HOW ABOUT — >> Cooper: WHETHER IT'S AN NAIA DIVISION II, DIVISION I, YOU KNOW IT'S FUNNY ABOUT TRACK AND FIELD IT'S NOT THE SAME TYPE OF SPORT AS YOU SEE IN BASKETBALL AND FOOTBALL AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A REVENUE GENERATING SPORT, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S DOWN TO WHO WE HAVE COMING IN AND WHO WANTS TO BE A PROFESSIONAL IN FOOTBALL, WHO WANTS TO BE A PROFESSIONAL IN BASKETBALL, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE SCHOOLS WHERE YOU CAN DO THOSE THINGS TRACK AND FIELD IT'S A REALLY HARD TO BE A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE, SO IT COMES DOWN TO THE QUALITY OF SCHOOL, AND REALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO GET EDUCATED IN IN YOUR MAJOR

>> Will: HERE'S A STORY ON THE FRIENDS UNIVERSITY TRACK AND FIELD TEAM >> 45 SECOND IN PRACTICE, THAT'S GOOD JUST HAVE THAT POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH A DIVISION I SCHOOL AND THE RESOURCES YOU HAVE JUST RIGHT ACROSS TOWN IS VERY SPECIAL >> YEAH, IT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF AND EXCITED ABOUT, WE'RE EXCITED TO GROW THE RELATIONSHIP HAD SOME ATHLETES THAT TRANSFERRED BETWEEN THE TWO SCHOOLS AND IT'S COOL TO SEE, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP GETTING TO PRACTICE ON THIS FACILITY IS SOMETHING WE SEE AS A HUGE BENEFIT TO OUR PROGRAM, NONE OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS HAVE INDOOR FACILITIES, WITH THE WINTER WEATHER IN KANSAS PART OF THE TIME — IT'S GOOD FOR US IN PREPARATION OF THE INDOOR TRACK MEET

OUR KIDS GO HOME FOR ABOUT FOUR WEEKS AND THEY DON'T GET TO TRAIN OUTSIDE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING BACK TO THEIR SMALL HIGH SCHOOLS IN KANSAS, THEY MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN STUCK IN THE GYM, SO THE FACT THAT WE CAN GET THEM HERE A WEEK BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US COLE DAVIS IS CLEARLY DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB WE'RE ALWAYS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT EACH YEAR, WICHITA STATE, OKLAHOMA BAPTIST, EMPORIA STATE, LOTS OF DIVISION ONE AND DIVISION TWO COMPETITION THAT'S GOOD FOR OUR KIDS TO SEE EARLY IN THE SEASON AS WE PREPARE FOR CONFERENCE ONE MONTH FROM NOW >> ALL RIGHT, COLE DAVIS DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB OUT THERE AT FRIENDS UNIVERSITY, ONE OF OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS HERE IN THE WICHITA AREA, ALWAYS WISH THEM THE BEST OF LUCK AS WELL, AS WE START TO GET READY HERE FOR THE MEN 60M HURDLES, RIGHT FOR LEFT UNATTACHED, BUTLER COMMUNITY COLLEGE JOSH RAMIREZ, ANOTHER UNATTACHED IS REICHENBERGER, THAT NAME REICHENBERGER SEEMS TO BE COMING UP EVERY TIME, WE'RE DOING THIS, COLIN REICHENBERGER, LOUIE RIVERS BACKED DOWN ALL OF HIS HURDLES, BUT MANAGED TO ADVANCE GRIFFIN, TYLER KNIGHT OF SHOCKER TRACK CLUB

HOW BIG IS IT FOR TYLER TO MAKE THE FIBRIL FINAL? >> Cooper: HE'S NOT TOO FAR OUT OF IT, IT'S NOT LIKE HE'S LIKE 60, HE COMPETED LAST YEAR, SO HE'S ONLY BEEN OUT I'D SAY SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS, AND SO MAINTAINING THE LEVEL OF COMPETITION HE HAS, HE'S NOT RUNNING NEAR AS WELL AS HE DID WHEN HE WAS HERE, BUT HE'S STILL COMPETING WELL YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF THIS PRELIM TIMES, A LOT OF THESE ATHLETES, THOSE AREN'T GOING TO BE GREAT TIMES IN THEIR CONFERENCE, WE WANT THE WICHITA STATE ATHLETES TO BE CLOSER TO THE 8-SECOND MARK, IF NOT UNDER, BUT FOR A FIRST MEET AND A PRELIM, I'M HOPING TO SEE IN THIS FINALS A FEW RUNNING UNDER 83 IN THE 82 RANGE >> Will: AND THE HESKETT RECORD IS 7

85 SET BY NELSON OUT OF ORAL ROBERTS, THAT'S TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DOING HERE THEY COME DOWN THE STRETCH >> Cooper: SEE LOUIE COMING IN THE TOP TWO >> Will: LOOKED LIKE LOUIE WAS OUT FRONT >> Cooper: I THINK LOUIE TOOK THAT RACE AS WELL

AGAIN, GREAT PED, GREAT ATHLETE, HITTING EVERY HURDLE HE CAN STILL WIN HITTING EVERY HURDLE >> Will: FOR ALL YOU KIDS OUT THERE, JUST RUN THROUGH THE HURDLES, WHO CARES >> Cooper: THE CONFUSION FOR A LOT OF THESE — A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FANS, ARE NEW TO THIS SPORT THEY DON'T KNOW, OH, IS IT BAD TO HIT A HURDLE? DO YOU GET DISQUALIFIED? >> Will: THERE'S NO POINT DEDUCTION, YOU JUST SLOW YOURSELF DOWN, JUST FRICTION IN YOUR WAY >> Cooper: EXACTLY

GREAT RUN BY LOUIE, I THINK HE'LL BE HAPPY HE HAS A RUN UNDER HIS BELT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF HIS CONTROL THROWN OFF, YOU CAN HIS RIGHT ARM GOING WAY BACK BEHIND HIM, THAT EXTEND THE STRIDE, THAT JUST MEANS IT TAKES LONGER FOR TO GET HIS LEGS OUT IN FRONT OF HIM YOU SEE HIM NOW TALKING WITH COACH WISE IN REVIEW IN SOME OF THE RACE, AND WISE IS PROBABLY JUST TELLING HIM, HEY, THERE'S A FEW THINGS WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON, THERE'S — YOU GOT OUT WELL, YOU — YOU'RE LOSING SOME OF YOUR MOMENTUM EVERY TIME YOU HIT A HURDLE >> Will: HURDLES ARE GETTING IN THE WAY >> Cooper: EXACTLY

>> Will: WANT TO GET OVER THOSE HURDLES >> Cooper: WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT >> Will: FIGURATIVELY AND LITERALLY >> Cooper: YES, EXACTLY >> Will: BUT ALL AND ALL, A GOOD DAY FOR LOUIE, HE GETS TO WALK OUT OF HERE AS A CHAMPION, IF YOU WILL

>> Cooper: EXACTLY I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE GOOD FOR HIS CONFIDENCE IT'S NOT REALLY — RIGHT NOW THAT TIME'S NOT GOING TO PUT HIM UP IN THE CONFERENCE TOO MUCH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE GUYS LIKE THAT WHO — WHO ARE RUNNING AT THE LEVEL HE IS RIGHT NOW, HE'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE TOP 10 IN CONFERENCE RIGHT NOW, BUT LATER ON IN THE SEASON, I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW WELL HE DOES ESPECIALLY AS HE GETS OLDER AND MORE USED TO THE EVENT >> Will: WE'RE GOING TO PUT COOPER TO WORK HERE AND HE'S GOING TO GET RID OF ALL THE HURDLES AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AFTER THIS BREAK AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE 60M DASH, THAT IS SET TO TAKE OFF AT 4:10, SO WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE, LET US GET PAID A LITTLE BIT BY OUR SPONSORS, THE 60M DASH ON THE MEN'S SIDE, THE WOMEN'S SIDE WILL FOLLOW, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK

>> Will: ALL RIGHT, WELCOME BACK TO THE 10TH ANNUAL SHOCKER PLAY LEWD HERE AT THE HUSK HE WILL CENTER, I'M JENNY IS OUT IN THE FIELD TALKING TO ALL THE ATHLETES GETTING A REAL FEEL FOR IT AS WE'RE COZIED UP HERE IN THE TELEVISION AREA IN THE BLEACHERS, WE'RE ABOUT TO GET UNDERWAY THE WOMEN'S — OR THE WOMEN'S 60M HURDLES, AS THEY'RE ABOUT TO TAKE OFF, WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU WATCH THAT AND TAKE ALL THAT IN FOR THIS RACE THESE ARE YOUR RUNNERS, WE HAVE YEARGIN OUT OF EMPORIA STATE, RYAN, YOUNG, INGLE AND REED IN A SHIELD >> Cooper: YOU CAN SEE DAYSHA YOUNG LOOKS LIKE SHE PULLED UP A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS HAPPY WITH HER START

HOPEFULLY THERE'S NOT ANY SORT OF INJURY THERE, BUT I THINK BEING AS EXPERIENCED AS AN ATHLETE AT SHE IS, THERE'S PROBABLY A REASON SHE LOOKED AT IT AND, OH, THIS RACE PROBABLY WASN'T FOR ME AS EARLY IN THE SEASON >> Cooper: NOT GOING TO BLOW IT ALL OUT IN THIS ONE >> Will: ONE >> Will: SEE IF WE CAN NOTICE ANYTHING ON THE REPLAY WE DIDN'T SEE MUCH OF HER STOP, YOU CAN TELL RIGHT THERE SHE WAS ALREADY UNHAPPY AND SHE PULLED UP QUITE EARLY

>> Cooper: YEAH, THAT'S THE HARD PART AND AGAIN, IT MAY BE THE PART OF THE SEASON THAT YOU'RE IN, BUT IF YOU'RE — IF YOU'RE NOT KEEPING UP WITH ATHLETES THAT YOU PROBABLY USED TO BEATING, YOU'RE REALLY TEMPTED TO PUSH IT IF THEY'RE A STEP OR TWO AHEAD OF YOU AND SHE'S SMART ENOUGH TO GO, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A FEW EXTRA STEPS AND HURT MYSELF, I'M NOT GOING TO — YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE FRUSTRATED TODAY, MAYBE THAT WAS A WASTED RACE, BUT IT'S — SHE DID GET A GOOD PRELIM RACE IN HERE, SHE'LL PROBABLY COMPETE THIS WEEKEND AT THE TRIANGULAR >> Will: IF SHE'S IN THE TRIANGULAR AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, DO YOU TRY TO PUSH THROUGH AND GET THE WIN? >> Cooper: I THINK TODAY SHE WAS THINKING OF THE TRIANGULAR, SHE KNEW SHE WAS GOING TO BE COMPETING, IT WOULDN'T BE WORTH IT IF SHE'S TIGHT I THINK SHE WILL COMPETE WELL IN THE TRIANGULAR

SOME OF THESE MEETS IT'S NOT WORTH IT, ESPECIALLY WITH SO MANY WOMEN ATHLETES WHO ARE UNATTACHED, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WIN THE SCORES, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO — YOU KNOW, THE MEN PROBABLY EXPECT TO WIN THIS MEET, BUT THE WOMEN TODAY, DAYSHA WINNING THE 60MS AND GETTING SO POINTS WASN'T GOING TO HELP THE WOMEN TOO MUCH WIN THIS MEET, ESPECIALLY WITH HOW MANY UNATTACHED ATHLETES THAT THAT THERE ARE FROM WICHITA STATE IS THAT I ASSUME COACH WISE IS TELLING HER THAT EXACT THAT WAY, GOOD TO PULL UP, HOW TO PUSH IT, WHEN, MOST IMPORTANTLY WHEN NOT TO PUSH IT NOW WE'VE GOT THE MEN'S 60 METERS COMING UP HERE, WE'LL GET YOU GUYS AS SOON AS THEY GET IN THEIR BLOCKS SO WE CAN TELL YOU WHO'S WHO A LOT OF BUTLER IN THIS RACE, RUNNING UNATTACHED FROM BUTLER, MILES LaFLUER, EMPORIA STATE JAMAL CURRY, CLIFFORD, ROBINSON THE THIRD BUTLER, COLLINS, SIMMONS, JA MAIL AUSTIN

JAMEEL IS THE ONLY ONE RUNNING UNATTACHED ALONG WITH LaFLUER, ATHLETES IN THE 60M DASH >> Cooper: THEY HAVE A VERY, VERY TALENTED SPRINT SQUAD IT WILL BE FUN TO SEE HOW THEY COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER YOU'LL SEE WHY THERE'S FOUR OF THEM IN THIS RACE, WHEN YOU GET THAT LEVEL OF TALENT AND YOU GET TO PRACTICE WITH THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY, THAT WILL HE SAID YOUR GAME THEY MAY BE RIVALS IN TRACK MATES, THEY MAY FRUSTRATE EACH OTHER, BUT THAT ONLY MAKES THEM BETTER, AND THEY WOULDN'T BE AT THE LEVEL THEY'RE AT WITHOUT THE OTHER ONE BEING THERE

I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT CLIFFORD ROBINSON DOES HERE TOO, JUST BEING A YOUNG GUY AND NOT HAVING AS MUCH EXPERIENCE BEING THE FRESHMAN OUT OF LEAVENWORTH, I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE FANTASTIC FOR WICHITA STATE IF HE CAN STAY HEALTHY SO LET'S SEE HOW HE DOES TODAY >> Will: SO YOU MENTIONED COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER AT BUTLER WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE ELITE ATHLETES THAT MAKES THEM BETTER, HOW DOES IT MAKE THEM BETTER? IN ORDER TO MAKE ANOTHER SPORT ANALOGY, LIKE FOOTBALL, IF YOU HAVE A GRAYS DEFENSE, IT WILL MAKE A GREAT OFFENSE IN PRACTICE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING UP AGAINST SOME OF THE BEST DEFENDERS, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR LEAGUE OR CONFERENCE? >> Cooper: I THINK IT'S THE TALENT POOL YOU TAKE A BIG SCHOOL, YOU TAKE A 6-A SCHOOL IN KANSAS, THE ODDS ARE GOOD THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT TRACK TEAM AND BETTER PROGRAM, WHY? BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE KIDS TO PULL FROM, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE THE RIFFRAFF, WHERE AS YOU LOOK IN TRACK AND FIELD, YOU COME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, YOU MAY BE TOP DOG, YOU COME INTO COLLEGE, YOU'RE LOSING RACES, BUT YOU STILL MIGHT BE TOP DOG ON YOUR TEAM >> Will: RIGHT

>> Cooper: SO IF YOU'RE NOT TOP DOG ON YOUR TEAM AND YOU'RE ONE OF THE TOP THREE, OR WHATEVER, YOU'VE GOT A GUY BREATHING DOWN YOUR NECK WHO'S ON YOUR OWN TEAM IN PRACTICE EVERY DAY, IT'S TIRESOME, BUT IT CHALLENGES YOU TO BE BETTER VERSUS JUST BEING CONTENT BEING THE BEST ON THE TEAM >> Will: SO YOU GET PUSHED IN EVERY ASPECT, I'M SURE IN A — IT'S OBVIOUSLY FRIENDLY RIVALRIES AS WELL, BUT I'M SURE THESE GUYS WANT TO FEED EACH OTHER AS MUCH AS, BUT THEY ROOT FOR EACH OTHER AS WELL >> Cooper: OH, YEAH, MOST OF THE TIME THAT'S THE BEST THING ABOUT DOING TEAM SCORING EVENTS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE CONFERENCE MEET, AND YOU GOT THREE GUYS IN THE TOP FIVE, THAT'S GREAT POINTS FOR YOUR TEAM, WHO CARES WHO GOT SECOND, WHO CARES WHO GOT FIRST >> Will: I BET THEY DO

I COULD NAME A COUPLE THAT WOULD >> Cooper: SEE THEM OUT EARLY, GREAT START FROM CLIFFORD ROBINSON, HE'S MOVING RIGHT ALONG >> Will: DUSTING, THAT'S JUST TAILLIGHTS FROM THE START >> Cooper: THAT'S RIGHT WE HAVE — YEAH, THE BUTLER ATHLETE IN LANE — LOOKS LIKE LINE 4, TRAVIS COLLINS, HE CAME IN WITH A 6

72 FROM THE PRELIM I HOPE HE BEAT THAT THAT'S A FANTASTIC TIME, AND I'M GOING TO — >> Will: THAT'S TENTHS HIGHER THAN THE NEXT PERSON WHO WAS HIS TEAMMATE, RUNNING UNATTACHED, STEVENS RUNNING IN AT 692 HE CAME IN AT 6

722 >> Cooper: IN THE MEET RECORD 671 SET BY MARK JELKS >> Will: WE HAVE THE CHANCE FOR A NEW RECORD HERE >> Cooper: ABSOLUTELY

IF I'M CLIFFORD ROBINSON IN THAT RACE, I'M NOT UPSET WITH THAT PERFORMANCE WHEN YOU — WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING AGAINST A GUY WHO MAY BE BREAKING A MEET RECORD WHO'S HAD SOME EXPERIENCE AND YOU'RE A FRESHMAN, CLIFFORD ROBINSON, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO RUN A 67 IT'S GOOD TO BREAK 7 SECONDS IT'S GOOD TO STAY WITH THAT GUY FOR 30 OR 40 METERS

HE SHOULD HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE IN HIS PERFORMANCE TODAY >> Will: SEE A LOT OF THOSE GUYS SMILE, VERY HAPPY WITH THEIR TIMES ALL RIGHT, JENNY, YOU'VE HAD ONE PERSON UP THERE, I KNOW YOU'VE REALLY OUTDONE YOURSELF, YOU HAVE TO YOU OUT THERE, YOU JUST ROUNDED THEM ALL IN >> Jenny: OKAY, SO NOW JOINING ME, I HAVE KELSEY SLATTEN FROM PAOLA, KANSAS, A RED SHIRT JUNIOR, A SHOT PUTT SPECIALIST, AND A SENIOR THIS YEAR FROM MISSOURI, A SHOT PUTT SPECIALIST SHE JUST COMPETED TODAY, HOW DID YOU DO TODAY IN THE SHOT PUTT? >> I TOOK FIRST WITH THE THROW OF 48 FEET 5 INCHES

>> Cooper: I TOOK SECOND WITH THE THROW OF 46 FEET 6 INCHES >> Jenny: THAT'S AWESOME I KNOW CHELSEA JUST THREW A RECORD IN THE SQUAD MEET, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS AN UNOFFICIAL WIN, UNOFFICIAL MEET DOES IT HELP YOU? >> IT HELPS ME TO KNOW I CAN GET A BIG THROW AND SAVE IT, IT HELPED A LOT >> Jenny: DOES THAT FIRE YOU UP FOR THE SEASON TOO? >> YES, I'M SO EXCITED, IT WAS A BIG MOTIVATOR FOR ME AND THE REST OF THE TEAM, SO EXCITED FOR THE SEASON

>> Jenny: WHAT KIND OF EXPECTATIONS OR GOALS TO YOU GUYS HAVE COMING INTO THE SEASON? >> I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY JUST KEEP THROWING FURTHER, GET STRONGER, GET BETTER, AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY IN THE TEAM DOES IT AS WELL, EXCITING TO WATCH EVERYONE SUCCEED >> HOPEFULLY MAKE MY LAST SEASON THE BEST SEASON, HOPEFULLY HIT OVER 50 — JEN JUNIOR I JUST WANT TO KNOW, DO YOU LIKE INDOOR OR OUTDOOR SHOT BETTER? >> I LIKE INDOOR, WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE WITH YOUR, OUTSIDE WE'VE GOT RAIN >> I'M THE OPPOSITE, I LIKE OUTDOOR BETTER, THE BALL IS SMALLER INDOORS, AND I PARTICULARLY THROW BETTER WITH OUTDOOR SHOT PUTT >> SOMETHING HEALTHY ABOUT A BED AND A DOG 50 FEET DO YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THAT? >> SINCE I'VE GOTTEN HERE, ME AND MY DAD MADE A BET, IF I THROW OVER 50 FEET, I GET A PUG PUPPY, I'M GOING TO NAME HIM RALPH

>> Jenny: THAT'S AWESOME DO YOU HAVE A BET LINED UP WITH YOUR PARENTS? >> IF I DID, I THINK IT WOULD BE TO GET A NEW CAR, IF I THROW OVER 50 FEET >> Jenny: LET'S HOPE THEY'RE LISTENING RIGHT NOW I'LL LOOK FORWARD WATCHING IT WHAT MEETS ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING AT THE TRIANGULAR? >> I'LL BE DOING SHOT PUT WEIGHTS

>> I'LL BE DOING SHOT PUT AND MAYBE WEIGHTS >> Jenny: YOUR FAVORITE EVENT IS? >> SHOT PUT >> SHOT PUT >> THANKS FOR TALKING TO ME >> THAT'S QUITE A JUMP FROM A PUG TO A CAR, THAT'S QUITE A JUMP, WE TALKED ABOUT WICHITA STATE, KU AND EMPORIA STATE MEETING IN A TRIANGULAR

HERE'S A STORY >> THE KU-K-STATE TRIANGULAR ON SATURDAY IS A MAJOR FOCUS EVENT FOR US, WE LOVE THIS HAPPENED, THE THREE DIVISION ONE SCHOOLS IN KANSAS I'M A TEAM TRACK AND FIELD GUY, I LOVE TEAM TRACK AND FIELD, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR US

I KNOW GOING TO A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP, WE WANT TO REHEARSE BEING A TEAM, WE WANT TO REHEARSE COMPETING AS A TEAM CERTAINLY A TRIANGULAR IS A GREAT MEET, ESPECIALLY INDOORS AT MOST FACILITIES, IT MAKES SENSE, YOU CAN MAKE YOUR WAY THROUGH A TRIANGULAR REASONABLY QUICKLY THROUGHOUT BAGGIE OUT THERE ALL DAY LONG AND ALL NIGHT LONG LIKE SOME OF THE BIG INVITATIONALS AND IN KANSAS WE'VE GOT THREE GOOD TRACK AND FIELD OPERATIONS, KU, K-STATE, WICHITA STATE AT THE DIVISION I LEVEL, AND I THINK IT'S A NEAT CONCEPT TO PUT TOGETHER A TRIANGULAR

THEY USED TO HAVE A BIG KU, K-STATE MISSOURI TRIANGULAR EVEN WHEN I CAME HERE THAT MEET WAS HAPPENING, AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET INTO THAT MEET, IT WAS SORT OF A TRADITION, AND THEY HAD IT GOING, AND THEN THEY DROPPED THAT MEET, AND I JUST BEGAN TALKING TO THOSE GUYS AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE BOTH OF THEM WERE LIKE, YEAH, LET'S DO IT, SOUNDS GOOD AND WE CAME UP WITH A FORMAT WHERE WE ROTATE, K-STATE, K

U AND THEN WICHITA STATE, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THE ROTATION ONE TIME, AND NOW WE'RE STARTING BACK OUR SECOND ROTATION, I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT BOTH OF THOSE COACHES FEEL LIKE IT'S A MEET THAT THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT THEY WANT TO DO AND SO WE'RE DOING IT BUT IT'S STILL A NEAT COMPETITION BOY, THERE'S SOME PRIDE, THERE'S SOME TEAM PRIDE INVOLVED IN GETTING READY FOR AND GOING TO A TRIANGULAR WHERE IT'S THE THREE DIVISION I SCHOOLS IN KANSAS SO WE'VE CERTAINLY — WE'VE GOT A TEAM MEETING WEDNESDAY, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO COMPETE AS HARD AS WE CAN FOR A HIGH FINISH

>> Will: ALL RIGHT, WELCOME BACK HERE TO THE HESKETT CENTER, WE HAVE A NEW MEET RECORD HERE SET BY TRAVIS COLLINS BREAK DOWN WHAT WE SAW WE THOUGHT HE HAD A CHANCE TO DO IT AND SAFE TO SAY, HIS RECORD SHATTERED >> Cooper: YEAH, HE — HE DEFINITELY SHATTERED THE MEET RECORD FORMALLY SET BY MIKE JELKS OF 671

HE RAN A 664, WHICH TIES THE FACILITY RECORD AT THE HESKETT SET BY QUENTIN-ON BUTTER OUT OF UT ARLINGTON BACK IN 2015 A VERY, VERY GOOD RUN FROM BUTLER THIS EARLY IN THE SEASON, ESPECIALLY SO HE SHOULD — >> Will: HOW MUCH SHOULD HE EXPECT TO IMPROVE NOW THROUGHOUT THE SEASON? >> Cooper: YOU KNOW — SET A RECORD LIKE THAT IN DAY ONE, ALL RIGHT >> Cooper: IT'S HARD, BECAUSE YOU CAN GET A LOT OF ATHLETES WHO ARE VERY, VERY POSITIVE, AND THEY GO YOU KNOW WHAT? I RAN — I RAN A 7

3, BUT I GOT A WHOLE SEASON AND I'M GOING TO RUN A 68 BY THE END THE TRUTH IS, AN ATHLETE WHO'S RUNNING A 73 IS NOT THREE MONTHS GOING TO DROP A HALF OF SECOND, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN SO A GUY LIKE THIS WHO'S COMPETING AT THIS LEVEL CAN PROBABLY EXPECT TO STAY AROUND THAT RANGE FOR MOST OF THE SEASON, HE'S GOING TO HAVE GOOD DAYS, HE'S GOING TO HAVE BAD DAYS, AND HOPEFULLY PEAK AT THE RIGHT TIME, BUT I CAN EXPECT HIM TO MAYBE DROP ANOTHER HALF A TENTH TO A TENTH

THAT'D BE EXCITING TO SEE THOSE WOULD BE GREAT MARKS FOR HIM I'M UNAWARE OF HIS PERSONAL BEST, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT — >> Will: LET'S TAKE A LOOK HERE AT SOME OF THE MEN'S SCORES, I'LL GIVE YOU THEM VERBALLY, WICHITA STATE, THEY'RE ON TOP RIGHT NOW WITH A SCORE OF 734, OKLAHOMA BAPTIST, SECOND AT 35, THAT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE FOR OKLAHOMA BAPTIST COMING IN, THEY'RE A 6-MONTH OLD SCHOOL, SIX MONTHS THEY'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE, IS THAT THE ONE? >> Cooper: OTTAWA >> Will: I THOUGHT NO WAY BAPTIST HAS BEEN AROUND FOREVER, 35 POINTS, 10 POINTS BEHIND THEM, EMPORIA STATE WITH 25 POINTS, FRIENDS WITH 15 AND FORT HAYES STATE HAS FOUR POINTS, AS YOU CAN SEE NOW ON YOUR SCREEN

GREAT JOB BY OUR GRAPHICS TEAM DEPARTMENT TO GET THOSE UP THERE PROBABLY NOT SHOCKING TO SAY THE SHOCKERS UP TOP, IS IT COOPER? >> Cooper: I DON'T THINK THE WOMEN'S TEAM IS GOING TO HOLD ON TO THAT LEAD VERY MUCH LONGER, ESPECIALLY IN THESE — THESE RUNNING RACES, WE HAVE A LOT OF INJURIES, IT'S A REBUILDING YEAR AND SO WE — THE ATHLETES WHO ARE COMPETING COMPETING — UNATTACHED AS WE GET READY FOR THE MILE RACE WITH THE WOMEN COMING UP >> Will: SO HOW LONG — SO THIS IS — THIS TRACK INDOOR OBVIOUSLY HALF THE SIZE OF THE OUTDOOR TRACK, THIS MILE YOU HAVE HOW MANY LAPS? >> Cooper: YEAH, IT'S A 200M TRACK WHICH MEANS IT'S GOING TO BE EIGHT RUNS, FOUR RUNS AROUND AN OUTDOOR TRACK, FOUR LAPS INDOOR THE EXCITING THING ABOUT THE INDOOR MILE OR THE INDOOR DISTANCE RACES, AS THEY TAKE OFF FROM THE LINE HERE, IS WITH ALL OF THE TURNS, YOU KNOW, A DISTANCE RUNNER DOESN'T REALLY LIKE RUNNING INDOOR, THERE'S A LOT — THERE'S SO MANY LAPS INVOLVED IN YOUR RACE, BUT WHEN YOU DO RUN THOSE RACES, THERE'S A LOT MORE STRATEGY INVOLVED TO WHEN YOU OVERTAKE AN ATHLETE AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU HAVE ON A STRAIGHT AWAY TO OVERTAKE SOMEBODY, OR IF YOU PASS THEM ON A CURVE, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE STRATEGY INVOLVED, A LITTLE BIT MORE TEAM WORK, I WOULD SAY YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH YOUR OTHER TEAMMATES, WHO'S GOING TO LEAD? YOU'RE NOT WORRIED SO MUCH ABOUT AN OUTDOOR, YOU'VE GOT TO WORRY ABOUT THE ELEMENTS, SO YOU HAVE WIND, YOU HAVE RAIN

SO THE PERSON WHO TAKES THE LEAD IS TYPICALLY THE SUCKER AND THEY'RE GOING TO BLOCK THE WIND, THEY MAY THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD THAT THE WHOLE TIME, BUT THE SMART ONES ARE STICKING BEHIND THEM INDOOR YOU DON'T HAVE THE ELEMENTS, AND SO IT'S MORE OF WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THE MOVE AT THE RIGHT TIME, WHO CAN REMEMBER HOW MANY LAPS ARE IN THIS RACE SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE OUTSTANDING ATHLETES THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN JOHNSON, KELLEN TAYLOR COMPETING FOR THE US

IN THE MARATHON, I BELIEVE SHE WAS THE THIRD US WOMAN TO FINISH THE NEW YORK MARATHON HERE JUST RECENTLY THIS FALL, KELLEN AT A CONFERENCE MEET DOUBLE LAPPED SOME GALS THEY STOPPED, SHE FINISHED THE RACE, THEY STOPPED SHORTLY AFTER HER THINKING THEY ARE DONE, THEY HAD ANOTHER LAP TO GO AND SO THAT DOES PLAY INTO IT WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING HARD AND YOU'VE GOT TO RUN, YOU KNOW, THE MILE'S NOT SO BAD, IT'S EIGHT LAPS, BUT YOU RUN THE 3-K, 15 LAPS INDOOR, YOU MIGHT RUN THE 10-K, YOU MIGHT RUN THE 5-K, JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE MEET IN THE CONFERENCE, BUT YEAH, IT'S HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF THOSE THINGS

NOW, THERE'S LAP COUNTERS, THERE'S PEOPLE HOLDING OUT — >> Will: TELLING THEM HEY, HEADS UP, YOU MIGHT WANT TO FINISH THE RACE >> Cooper: THE PROBLEM COMES WHEN YOU HAVE A GUY WHO'S LAPPED YOU BUT YOU JUST MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT BEHIND THEM YOU'RE A LAP BEHIND THEM BUT YOU'RE MAYBE 10 FEET PHYSICALLY BEHIND THEM, AND SO THE LAP COUNTER DOESN'T HELP YOU WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE WRONG NUMBER AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEIRS, NOT LOOKING AT YOURS, WHEN THE BELL RINGS WHEN YOU CROSS THE LINE OR SHORTLY BEFORE YOU CROSS THE LINE, YOU THINK YOU'RE IN IT IT'S PAINFUL TO SEE SOMETIMES, AND YOU DON'T WANT — >> Will: SHEER PANIC THAT YOU SEE THE ATHLETE'S FACE, OH, MY GOD, OH, NO >> Cooper: YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT POSITION, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE WALKING AFTER YOU FINISH AND YOU STOP WALKING, AND THEY SAY YOU HAVE ANOTHER LAP

>> Will: THE PRELUDE RECORD WAS SET IN 2012 FOR FOUR MINUTES, IT COULD BE BROKEN TODAY, ALTHOUGH THE SHOCKER PRELUDE RECORD IS 4 MINUTES 52 SECONDS >> Cooper: I DON'T SEE THAT BEING THAT FALLING TODAY, TONYA NEARO IS RUNNING PROFESSIONALLY FOR SHOCKER TRACK CLUB, WE HAVE UP HERE PROBABLY THE BEST RUNNER IN THIS RACE TODAY, THE TOP RUNNER FROM OKLAHOMA BAPTIST, TESA POTTER, BUT YEAH, TONYA NERO IS AN OUTSTANDING ATHLETE FOR WOMEN INDOORS BEING UNDER FIVE MINUTES, A SIMILAR ACHIEVEMENT >> Cooper: YOU GUYS WERE TEAMMATES, IS THAT CORRECT? >> Will: YES, WE WERE, YEAH TONYA WAS ON THE TEAM, SHE IS OUT OF — I HAVE TO REMEMBER TRINIDAD, AND GREAT GAL

THE SWEETEST GAL, VERY QUESTION, VERY SMALL — VERY QUIET, VERY SMALL, YOU COULD LIFT HER WITH ONE ARM, AND SHE CAN RUN WITH LIKE THE WIND, AN AMAZING DISTANCE RUNNER, SHE'S DONE WELL WITH TRINIDAD ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL, SHE STILL COMPETES HERE IN WICHITA, OCCASIONALLY SHE COMPETED WITH THE CROSS COUNTRY TEAM THIS FALL AND DID A FEW ROAD RACES AS WELL, COACH HUNTER HELPING HER OUT WITH THAT, THE DISTANCE OPEN COACH HERE AT WICHITA STATE >> Will: THE HESKETT REQUIRED IS 4 MINUTES 46 CREDIT CARDS BY REBEKAH TOPHAM, JUST LAST YEAR >> Cooper: REBEKAH, WE'LL SEE REBEKAH RUN TODAY SHE'S RUNNING IN SOME ODD RACES I BELIEVE SHE'S RUNNING UNATTACHED

SHE'S YET ANOTHER WICHITA STATE WOMEN'S ATHLETE THAT WILL TAKE A YEAR OFF FROM COMPETITION OR, RATHER, SCORED COMPETITION, TEAM COMPETITION, SHE'S PROBABLY THE MOST OUTSTANDING DISTANCE RUNNER ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE RIGHT NOW TODAY SHE'S RUNNING, I BELIEVE SHE'S RUNNING IN THE 600 — WE'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT LATER WHAT SHE'S RUNNING IN, BUT YEAH, REBEKAH FANTASTIC ATHLETE, SHE JUST RAN THAT HESKETT RECORD, THAT WOULD HAVE FALLEN BECAUSE SHE'S SO YOUNG, I THINK THAT FELL AT THE INTERSQUAD IN DECEMBER NOW WE'RE ON THE BELL LAP YOU CAN SEE IN FRONT YOU HAVE JUST LAPPING THERE THE GAL FROM BUTLER, FROM OBU, I BELIEVE THAT'S TESA POTTER

>> Will: YES, TESA POTTER, SHE COMES IN — SHE ENTERS WITH A TIME 5 MINUTES 15 SECONDS, SO I DON'T THINK SHE'LL BE ABLE TO BREAK THAT TODAY >> Cooper: SHE'S NOT GOING TO DO THAT, NO, SHE'S NOT GOING TO DO THAT TODAY, BUT SHE SHOULD BE HAPPY WITH THIS TIME >> Will: SHE IS COMING IN HOT, THOUGH, AT THE END >> Cooper: WITH THIS FIELD, THAT'S THE WHOLE THING, IT'S HARDER IN DISTANCE, NOT ONLY INDOOR, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY LAPS TO DETERMINE HOW WELL YOU DO IN THE RACE, BUT ALSO DEPENDS LARGELY ON YOUR COMPETITION, SO YOU'LL EVEN SEE PEOPLE COMPUTING IN PRE- — IN NATIONAL WORLD LEVEL AT THE OLYMPIC TRIALS AND AT EVEN THE FINALS OF THE OLYMPICS DISTANCE RUNNERS RUNNING SLOWER THAN THEY TYPICALLY WOULD BECAUSE IT'S A STRATEGIC RACE INDOOR

SO CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, SHE MAY NOT HAVE THE LEVEL OF COMPETITION THAT SHE HOPES FOR LATER ON IN THE SEASON, ESPECIALLY AT THIS MEET AND THIS EARLY IN THE SEASON, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD RUN FOR HER >> Will: IT'S REMARKABLE TO THINK ABOUT FOR ANY GENERAL ATHLETE, SUCH AS MYSELF, THAT JUST PLAYS ANOTHER SPORT BUT ISN'T A RUNNER, TO DO A 5:19-MILE AND JUST THINK OF IT AS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO PACE MYSELF, TAKE MY TIME, RELAX, BUT HAVE A NICE RUN, AS A 5:19-MILE? WHOA! THIS WORLD, THIS WORLD IS THE ONLY WORLD WHERE ANY OF THAT CAN BE SAID I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT 7, 8 MINUTE MILES THESE DAYS, HEY, IF I GOT A 10 MINUTE MILE ON MISS FOURTH MILE, I'M FEELING GREAT, I'M ALIFE, I'M BREATHE CAN SO THAT'S FANTASTIC NEWS, WE'RE DOING 5:19 MILES, WE'LL GET THERE, THAT'S THE MIND-SET >> Cooper: YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A DEFINITELY A DIFFERENCE IN MIND-SET AGAIN, YOU COMING FROM A BASEBALL BACKGROUND

>> Will: WHEN WE HAS TO RUN, WE WANTED TO KILL COACH RUNNING WAS PUNISHMENT >> Cooper: THAT'S RIGHT >> Will: IT'S JOY HERE, AND THEY'RE EXCELLENT AT IT, AND IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD, EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE >> Cooper: THERE IS SOMETHING DISCOURAGING WHEN YOU ARE AN ASPIRING ROAD RACE RUNNER, RUN THOSE 5-K ROAD RACES AND THINK YOU'RE ATHLETIC AND YOU HAVE THESE ATHLETES COMING OUT OF COLLEGE, RUNNING UNATTACHED, LOOKING AT THEIR WATCHES, CHECKING THINGS, CHECKING THEIR HEART RATE, MAYBE EATING BREAKFAST ALONG THE WAY

>> Will: MY HEART'S STILL GOING, AND YOU CAN CHEW AND RUN? OH, MY GOD! I HAD A PERSON HAND ME A CUP OF GATORADE AND I ALMOST CHOKED IT RUNNING IN CHICAGO ONE YEAR >> Cooper: LET'S SAFELY SAY, IT'S PROBABLY GOOD YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPETE IN THOSE DISTANCE RACES >> Will: YEAH, YEAH, I THINK SO MEDICAL TEAM WOULD BE ON CALL >> Cooper: YOU LEARN EARLY — JUST LIKE I LEARNED EARLY IN LIFE THAT MAYBE BASKETBALL OR BASEBALL WASN'T THE RIGHT SPORT FOR ME, I SHOULD DO SOMETHING WITHOUT A BALL INVOLVED, I'LL DO TRACK AND FIELD, YOU PROBABLY LEARNED, HEY, MAYBE RUNNING'S NOT FOR ME

>> Will: YEAH, RUNNING — YOU GROW UP WITH RUNNING AS A PUNISHMENT, IT'S NOT — NOT THE WAY IT IS HERE, SO THE TRACK MEET'S ACTUALLY PRETTY MUCH RIGHT ON TIME, WE'RE TWO MINUTES AWAY FROM THE MEN'S MILE RUN GETTING UNDERWAY HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF OKLAHOMA BAPTIST THROUGHOUT THIS ONE, AND WE HAVE ONE WICHITA STATE ATHLETE, A FRESHMAN, ETHAN KOSSOVER, HE ENTERS WITH A TIME OF — LOVELY, 4 MINUTES 23 SECONDS FLAT WHAT ARE YOU, NUTS! >> Cooper: YOU RECALL FEELING PRETTY GOOD — >> Will: IS THIS GUY PRE-FONTAINE? GOOD HEAVENONS! >> Cooper: THAT'S A GOOD MARK >> Will: THAT'S NOT THE FASTEST BY A LONG SHOT >> Cooper: BEING A FRESHMAN, THAT'S PA GOOD MARK, TAKES YOU A WHILE TO COME INTO YOUR OWN AS A DISTANCE RUNNER YOU SEE PEOPLE HITTING THEIR TOP LEVELS, YOU SEE GUYS IN THE MARATHON WHO ARE IN THEIR 30s

IT TAKES A WHILE TO PUT IN THE MILES TO GET USED TO RUNNING AT THIS LEVEL OF COMPETITION TO GET USED TO THE CARDIO AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, YEAH, YOU CAN GET BY IN HIGH SCHOOL BEING A 5 MINUTE MILER, BUT AT THIS LEVEL, IF YOU'RE RUNNING 4 1/2 MINUTES, YOU'RE PROBABLY MIDDLE OF THE PACK, AND SO ME NOT HAVING MUCH DISTANCE HISTORY, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T APPRECIATE SOME PEOPLE RUNNING THE MILE, I'VE SEEN A FEW GUYS RUN UNDER FOUR MINUTES, THAT'S REALLY FUN TO SEE BUT IT JUST TAKES SOME TIME YOU SEE THE PROFESSIONALS, THEY'RE IN THEIR LATE 20s AND THEY'RE REALLY PEAKING AT THAT TIME SO ETHAN, WITH THE TIME THAT HE'S GOT COMING INTO THIS RACE, 4:23 FLAT, THAT JUST SIGNATURE PHASE HE DOESN'T HAVE A MARK — SIGNIFIES HE DOESN'T HAVE A MARK YET, SO THAT'S NOT BASED OFF OF REALLY ANYTHING ELSE, THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE TO SEE I DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL GET THERE TODAY, HOPEFULLY HE DOES, BUT WE'LL — WE'LL SEE HOW HE DOES

>> Will: NOW, THE SHOCKER PRELUDE RECORD IN HERE IS SET BY JAKE WIKE WICHITA STATE AND THE HESKETT RECORD IS 4 MINUTES 7 SECONDS BY BRYCE McANDREW COOPER, YOU WERE SPOT ON, YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T THINK THE WOMEN WOULD HOLD ON TO THE SPOT MUCH LONGER, NOW THEY'RE IN SECOND PLACE, THEY'RE TIED SECOND WITH FRIENDS THE MEN'S MILE GETS UNDERWAY, WE'RE 20 SECONDS INTO THAT >> Cooper: YOU WANT TO WATCH — HERE IN THE MILE, YOU WANT TO WATCH THE OBU GUYS, THEY'LL COMPETE AS A TEAM IN THIS RACE

IF YOU'RE ETHAN KOSSOVER FROM WICHITA STATE, YOU'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE, NOT ONLY BECAUSE YOU'RE A FRESHMAN, YOU'RE RUNNING ALONE, YOU DON'T HAVE REALLY ANYONE TO TALK TO, UNLESS YOU'RE WORKING WITH — >> Will: WHEN YOU SAY TALK TO, THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE DISCUSSING PLANS FOR THIS EVENING OH, ARE THEY? >> Cooper: NO THEY AREN'T LESS LEISURE ACTIVITY IT'S MORE STRATEGIC, HEY, DO YOU WANT TO CUT IN FRONT? IZED DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE LEAD THIS LAP? THE OTU GUYS PROBABLY HAD THE DISCUSSION BEFOREHAND, YOU'LL HAVE THE COACHES ON THE SIDELINES YELLING OUT SOME OF THOSE DIRECTIONS, SAY, HEY, NO, YOU NEED TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS RACE >> Will: SHAKE AND BAKE A LITTLE BIT

>> Cooper: BUT IF YOU'RE EUTHANASIA, YOU'VE GOT COACH HUNTER YELLING AT YOU, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER ATHLETES THAT ARE GOING TO HELP YOU THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO BLOCK YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO BOX YOU IN, THEY'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT HOW YOU DO IN THE RACE, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT HOW THEY COMPETE AS A TEAM SO WE'LL SEE HOW HE HANDLES SOME OF THAT, NOT JUST ONLY THE PRESSURE OF THIS BEING HIS FIRST COLLEGIATE RACE, BUT ALSO THE PRESSURE OF BEING THE ONLY SHOCKER IN THIS EVENT >> Will: THAT'S A LONELY FEELING OUT THERE WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF DRAFTING GOING ON BETWEEN EMPORIA STATE AND OTU, AND — OBU, THEY'RE FIGURING HOW THE TO BURR ARE YOU I AND DON'T HAVE YOUR BACK HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH? >> Cooper: THEY MAY NOT BE TO THE RUNNER FOR OBU, EMPORIA STATE OR FRIENDS, BUT THEY'RE HELP YOU FROM OVERTAKING THEIR RUNNER

THEY TAKE PUSH YOU OUTSIDE LOOK AT ETHAN, HE'S TAKEN OVER THE RUNNER FROM OBU, BUT HE HAD TO RUN OUTSIDE OF HIM FOR TWO CURVES IF YOU RUN A FOOT AWAY FROM THE INSIDE LINE FOR ONE LAP, THAT ADDS 6 FEET TO YOUR LAP, TO THE DISTANCE THAT YOU RUN SO MULTIPLY THAT OUT, EIGHT LAPS, IF YOU'RE RUNNING A FOOT AWAY, IF YOU'RE RUNNING ON THE OUTSIDE OF SOMEONE, IF YOU'RE RUNNING TWO FEET FROM THE INSIDE OF THE LANE >> Will: I BELIEVE THAT'S 32

>> Cooper: THAT'S ADDING — THERE YOU GO >> Will: JENNIFER'S A MATH >> Cooper: THAT'S ADDING SOME DISTANCE TO YOUR RACE YOU HAVE THE CARDIO, YOU CAN PROBABLY KEEP UP WITH PEOPLE LIKE THAT, BUT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE LONG RUN IF YOU'VE TAKEN THREE MORE STEPS, IF YOU'VE TAKEN 18 MORRIS STEPS THAN SOMEBODY YOU'VE GOT TO REALLY RELY ON YOUR SPEED AND TALENT AT THE END

>> Will: SO WE'RE NOW JUST CLOSING IN ON THE THREE MINUTE MARK OF THE MEN'S MINUTE MILE AFTER THE MEN'S MINUTE MILE, WE'RE GOING TO HEAD OVER TO JENNY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE 400M DASH ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE, STARTING AT 4:45 I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE THE — >> Cooper: THIS IS THE BELL LAP HERE >> Will: THE BELL OF THE BALL, IF YOU WILL I BELIEVE IT WAS GOING TO BE >> Cooper: YOU SEE ETHAN HERE IN FOURTH PLACE, THAT'S A GREAT POSITION TO BE IN

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM KICK IT IN AT THIS POINT, IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S RUNNING OUT OF GAS AND HE'LL BE OVERTAKEN BY A FEW ATHLETES, THAT JUST SHOWS SOME LACK OF EXPERIENCE, HE PROBABLY WON'T HOLD ON TO THAT POSITION I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM HOLD ON TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, HE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STAYED UP WITH THE FRONT GUYS, BUT ALL THE JOCELYNE AND JABBING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE RACE SOMEWHAT DEPENDS — OR HELPS DETERMINE HOW YOU DO LATER IN THIS, YOU JUST LOSE ENERGY DOING THAT SORRY, WE WERE A LITTLE PREMATURE ON THAT THIS IS THE BELL WE SHOULD PROBABLY WAIT FOR THE BELL

>> Will: SEE, I'M THE GUY WHO STOPS A LAP EARLY DURING THE RACE INTERVIEW ME, I WON! >> Cooper: EXACTLY >> Will: SO NOW WE'RE ON THE BELL LAP, THE RECORD WE'RE LOOKING AT IS 4:14, 4 MINUTE 7 SECONDS THE HESKETT RECORD BUT WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON ETHAN KOSSOVER, HE'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 3 HALF SECONDS BEHIND HIS TIME >> Cooper: KIND OF AS I EXPECTED, THE SEEDED TIME IS A HELPFUL, WHERE ARE YOU AT? IN SHAPE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT WE'RE COMING OFF THE CHRISTMAS BREAK, WE'RE COMING OFF OF EATING CHRISTMAS DINNER, AND COACH HUNTER IS PROBABLY GOING, HEY, LISTEN, YOU NEED A RACE UNDER YOUR BELT, RUN AROUND THIS TIME, THREE SECONDS ISN'T GOING TO BE TOO BAD, HE RAN ON THE OUTSIDE OF PEOPLE AND GOT JOSTLED, IT JUST SHOWS SOME INEXPERIENCE

>> Will: LET'S HEAD ON OTHER TO JENNY WHO HAS TWO MORE GUESTS LAST TIME WE HAD TWO ATHLETES ONE WANTED A PUG, ONE WANTED A CAR WHAT DO THESE GUYS WANT, A JET AND SOME SORT OF A COMMUTER TRAIN? >> Jenny: ALL RIGHT, SO AS YOU KNOW, WICHITA STATE IS WELL KNOWN FOR THEIR 400M HURDLES, AND WITH ME I HAVE TWO AWESOME 400M HURDERS I HAVE AUSTIN CORELY, AND ISAAC POE, FROM WAMEGO KANSAS TODAY THEY'RE NOT RUNNING THE 400 METERS, THEY'RE RUNNING THE 200M DASH, AND AUSTIN IS RUNNING THE 4 BY 4

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT RUNNING THE FIRST 200M DASH OF YOUR CAREERS? >> I THINK IT WILL BE FINE SEEING WHERE WE WERE FIRST IN THE SEASON AND BEING PREPARED >> I'M PRETTY RELAXED, FIRST MEET OF THE SEASON, I'M JUST DOING IT TO SEE WHAT I CAN DO AND HAVE FUN >> Jenny: AND AUSTIN, YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO BE COMPETING SATURDAY IN THE TRIANGULAR MEET WHAT EVENTS ARE YOU DOING ON SATURDAY? >> I'LL BE RUNNING THE OPEN 4 AND POSSIBLY THE 4 BY 4 >> Jenny: AWESOME

AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE LEFT THE NBC AND WE'RE JOINING THE AAC, SO YOU GUYS WILL HAVE NEW COMMISSION, SO ARE YOU GUYS — HOW ARE YOU GUYS FEELING ABOUT THE NEW COMPETITION? >> EXCITED, AUSTIN HAS A REALLY GOOD HERD HE HURDLER, HIM AND I ARE MATCHED UP, EXCITED TO SEE WHAT I CAN DO WITH THE COMPETITION >> LIKE YOU SAID, THE COMPETITION IS A LITTLE STRONGER IN THE AMERICAN CONFERENCE, BUT IT WILL BE FUN TO COMPETE WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN THAT CONFERENCE >> Jenny: AWESOME IS THERE A SPECIFIC SCHOOL YOU'RE EXCITED TO COMPETE AGAINST THIS SEASON? >> ABSOLUTELY, I WOULD SAY HOUSTON'S GOING TO BE OUR HEA HEAD TO HEAD COMPETITOR WE'RE GOING TO COMPETE PRETTY HEAVILY IN MOST OF THE EVENTS, SPRINTS GOING TO BE HARDER, BUT FOR THE MOST PART I THINK WE CAN HANDLE IT

>>> THEY'RE THE FAVORITE TO WIN RIGHT NOW, SO THE GOAL IS TO GO OUT THERE AND UPSET THEM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO >> Jenny: AND I KNOW THE 400 METERS IS REALLY A TOUGH EVENT, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO BE TRAINING PARTNERS, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO HAVE SOMEBODY PUSH YOU DURING PRACTICE AND EVERYTHING? >> HAVING A GOOD TRAINING PARTNER IS REALLY CRUCIAL, YOU CAN'T REALLY HE CAN EXCEED ONOR GET BETTER IF YOU'RE COMPETING AT A LOWER LEVEL, SO HAVING SOMEBODY AT YOUR LEVEL, GOOD COMPETITION IS CRUCIAL >> HE PRETTY MUCH SAID IT ALL THERE >> Jenny: AWESOME I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING GUYS ON YOUR FIRST 200M, AND KEEPING YOU WITH YOU GUYS ON SATURDAY

THANK YOU FOR TALKING TO ME, BACK TO YOU ALL >> Will: THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE ARE NOW ON THE VERGE OF GETTING THE WOMEN'S 400M DASH UNDERWAY, WHICH IS AN EXCITING RACE COOPER, NOTHING YOU PARTOOK IN >> Cooper: I DID COMPETE IN THE 400

>> Will: YOU WERE A ONE TRICK PONY >> Cooper: I TELL YOU, GETTING READY FOR THE 400M HURDLES OUTDOOR, IT'S ONLY AN OUTDOOR EVENT, I HAVE SEEN ONE INDOOR 400M HURDLERS, IT WAS AT THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, VERY INTERESTING RACE, REASON WE DON'T HAVE INDOOR, BUT YEAH, WE — IN PREPARATION FOR THE OUTDOOR 400M HURDLES YOU NEED TO GET 400 METERS UNDER YOUR BUILT IF YOU CAN RUN A 600M RACE WHICH WE'LL SEE LATER TODAY, THAT'S GOOD FOR THOSE ATHLETES TODAY YOU SEE ISAAC POE, CORELY AWESOME IN THE 400 METERS FOR WICHITA STATE STATE INSIDE DOORS THEY'RE NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT IT

THEY MAY ACTUALLY BE IN A RELAY FOR THE CONFERENCE MEET BECAUSE OF THEIR SKILLS OVER THE 400M HURDLE RANGE? THE OVERALL 400 METERS TODAY THEY'RE DOING THE 200 TO WORK ON SPEED AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BECAUSE THEIR SEASON'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HIT THEIR MAIN EVENT STARTING IN THE SPRING >> Will: WICHITA STATE'S MEN'S SIDE HAS EXPANDED THEIR LEAD TO 20 POINTS OVER OBU, 75 KOSSOVER, DESPITE BEING THE ONLY SHOCKER IN THAT RACE, DID BRING HOME A POINT, HOW BIG IS THAT TO GET A SINGLE POINT IN THE BOARD IN THE MILE RACE WHEN YOU'RE THE ONLY RUNNER INVOLVED WITH YOUR SCHOOL? >> Cooper: I THINK IT'S JUST GOOD FOR A — FOR A FRESHMAN TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE TEAM

THAT'S WHAT COACH RAINBOLT IS LOOKING FOR, COACH WISE IS LOOKING FOR, NOT SO MUCH A TIMING THING AS IT IS A CONTRIBUTION >> Will: WICHITA STATE MEN, HAVE A LEAD 75, 55, THE WOMEN A POINT AND A HALF, OBU 75 IN LANE ONE WE HAVE CARRA SIMMONS OF FRIENDS UNIVERSITY, WE SAW EARLIER, SHE'S NOT ENTERING A TIME COMING INTO THIS, NOR DID THE EMPORIA STATE FRESHMAN, LINNEA MIRE IN LANE TWO THERE ARE NO WICHITA STATE RUNNERS IN THIS RACE ITSELF, WE HAVE TWO OBU RUNNERS, CANIS ROGERS, AND MCKAE MITCHELL AND RUNNING UNATTACHED IS REBEKAH HAMILTON AND THE RECORD FOR THE SHOCKER PRELUDE, IF YOU'RE CURIOUS, 56

9, SET BY STACY WARRIOR IN 2014 AND ALSO IN 2014 THE HESKETT RECORD 5530 BY MADISON REYNOLDS FROM ORAL ROBERTS THIS RACE IS UNDERWAY OR NOT >> Cooper: IT'S LIKE WE HAD A FALSE START

>> Will: IS THAT CHEATING? >> Cooper: IT'S KNOT CHEATING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ANTICIPATING THE RACE, SOMETIMES IT'S NERVES, SOMETIMES IT'S YOU'RE ANTICIPATING THE START, THE STARTER HAS NOW BY THIS TIME HAD SOME SORT OF PREDICTABLE TIMING, AND SO IF YOU'RE — IF YOU'RE AN ATHLETE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO STRATEGICALLY FIGURE OUT WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU MIGHT JUMP THE GUN SOMETIMES AND SO SOMETIMES IT'S SILLY, I THINK, TO JUMP THE GUN IN A 400M RACE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO LAPS, THE START DOES NOT MATTER AS MUCH, AS IT DOES IN THE 60M DASH SO WE'LL SEE TWO LAPS OUT OF THE GALS, THEY WILL BE COMING OUT OF BLOCKS >> Cooper: WE'LL LET YOU LISTEN TO THE START, HOPEFULLY IT GOES SMARTER THAN LAST TIME AND EVERYONE GETS TO START AND FINISH THIS RACE >> Will: IT LOOKS LIKE WE LOST LANE 6 OUT THERE, IT WAS UNATTACHED, REBEKAH HAMILTON

>> Will: SHE'LL BE MISSED >> Cooper: SO THEY'RE OUT WELL, AND A GOOD WAY TO MEASURE WHERE SOMEONE IS AT IN THE RACE TO SEE HOW WELL THEY'RE RUNNING WITH THE PERSON ON THE OUTSIDE, IT'S HARDER RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN SEE LANE 6 IS OUT OF THE RACE, AND SO IN LANE 5 YOU HAVE MCKAE MITCHELL FROM OKLAHOMA BAPTIST, SHE'S RUNNING WELL, BUT SHE'S RUNNING BY HERSELF NOW WE'LL MERGE AFTER THE FIRST LAP, SHE'S COMING INTO THE INSIDE LANE, THEIR GOAL IS TO GET TO THE POLE AS WE CALL IT WHICH IS LANE ONE BY THAT SECOND LAP YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE POLE FIRST AND HOLD ON A LOT OF TIMES AND SO WITH THE 400 METERS, SHE'S RUNNING VERY, VERY WELL, SHE'S OUT IN FRONT, SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO JOSTLE OR JAB OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND FIGHTING FOR THE POSITION, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE USUALLY SLOWER TIMES INDOOR THAN WE SEE OUTDOOR

THIS IS A GREAT RUN BY MCKAE MITCHELL >> Will: ABOUT 58 SECONDS, MAYBE JUST UNDER 58 SECONDS BY MCKAE MITCHELL, SHE CAME IN WITH A TIME 573 DOESN'T SET ANY RECORDS, ABOUT YOU STILL A VERY SOLID RAIN BY MCKAE MITCHELL >> Cooper: I THINK I'D BE HAPPY WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH NO ONE RUNNING ON YOUR OUTSIDE, AND NO ONE REALLY RUNNING WITH YOU THE ENTIRE TIME

MAYBE SHE WAS MISSEEDED, SHE SHOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE NEXT HEAT, BUT IN INDOOR IT'S HARDER TO SEE THE EVENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE 400 METERS, SORRY, IN THE 400 METERS OR IN THE 200 METERS WHERE THE CURVE IS AN ISSUE IF YOU'RE ON THE INSIDE YOU'VE GOT TO FIGHT THAT CURVE REALLY, REALLY HARD WITH YOUR FEET, WITH YOUR ANKLES AND IT TAKES SOME ENERGY SO THE WIDER THE CURVE YOU YOU CAN RUN THE MORE OF AN ADVANTAGE YOU CAN HAVE IF YOU'RE PUT ON THE OUTSIDE YOU CAN'T SEE ANYONE OUTSIDE OF YOU, YOU CAN ONLY ANTICIPATE SOMEONE COMING UP ON YOUR LEFT AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD FEELING EITHER >> Will: BRING UP THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDOOR AND OUTDOOR, WOULD YOU RATHER THE CURVES FROM THE INDOOR TRACK, THE OUTDOOR TRACK, DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE? >> Cooper: I THINK ANY ATHLETE WOULD PREFER HAVING THE OUTDOOR TRACK

NOW, THE INDOOR TRACK BREEDS A LEVEL OF ENERGY, IT'S FUN, IN THE OUTDOOR YOU STAY IN YOUR LANE THE ENTIRE TIME INDOOR YOU MERGE AFTER ONE LAP, SO THERE IS SOME PHYSICALITY TO IT, THERE IS SOME STRATEGY TO IT, VERSUS, HEY, RUN LIKE THE WIN, KICK IT IN AT THIS POINT AND TIME, HEY, MAYBE I NEED TO WIN THE POLE, I NEED TO BE IN FRONT OF SOMEONE BECAUSE WE COULD ALL BE IN ONE LANE BY THE END OF THE RACE >> Will: THIS IS A REPLAY OF THE FIRST HEAT OF WOMEN'S 400 METERS, THEY'RE ABOUT TO GET READY TO HAVE THE SECOND HEAT AND WE HAVE ONE SHOCKER IN THIS HEAT, RUNNING UNATTACHED, IT'S DAYSHA BULLOCKS SHE'LL RUN ATTACHED

THE OTHER RUNNERS, EMPORIA STATE, CARRA MADDER, FRIENDS, CHEYENNE CHECK, VAN DER — >> Will: THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT RACE AND REALLY GOING TO PUSH EACH OTHER YOU CAN SEE OUT IN LANE 6 FROM FRIENDS, THAT'S NATALI ENGLE, SHE'S OUT REALLY, REALLY WELL DAYSHA'S STAYING WITH HER, SHE'S KEEPING UP WITH HER AND CATCHING HER ON THIS CURVE SO DAYSHA'S STRATEGY IN THIS RACE IS TO WIN THAT POLE

SHE WANTS TO BE IN FRONT AFTER THE FIRST LAP NOW YOU CAN SEE NATALI COMING BACK SOME AND YOU'LL SEE HOW THEY COMPETE TO GET TO THE FIRST LAYUP NATALI IS GOING TO TAKE THE LANE, IT LOOKS LIKE DAYSHA MAY HANG ON TO IT, OR THE END, SHE MIGHT PUSH IT, I'M GOING TO LOOK HERE FOR THE LAST 100 METERS FOR HER TO MAKE A MOVE SHE'S MAKING A MOVE TOO SOON SHE'S GOING TO WASTE ENERGY ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT I SUSPECT NATALI ENGLE WILL HANG ON I'D LIKE TO SEE A GOOD PERFORMANCE OUT OF DAYSHA HERE, BUT SHE NEEDS TO KICK IT IN HERE

>> Will: OBVIOUSLY THE FINAL STRETCH HERE THE 400 METERS, SECOND HEAT SPRINTS >> Cooper: SHER SHE COMES, HERE COMES DAYSHA BULLOCKS WITH A GREAT KICK, AND IT LOOKS LIKE NATALI ENGLE'S GOING TO HOLD ON, WHAT A GREAT RACE FOR BOTH OF THOSE GALS >> Will: BY THAT ONE STEP >> Cooper: THAT WAS A GREAT RACE FOR DAYSHA I THINK THEY BOTH WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPIER WITH FASTER TIMES, THEY CAME IN WITH HIGHER SEEDS, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S SOMEWHAT BASED OFF OF THE LAST YEAR AND LAST SEASON

>> Will: WE SEE A LOT OF GIRLS ABSOLUTELY PUSHING IT TO THEIR MAX HOW MUCH ENERGY DO THEY TAKE AND PUSH TOWARDS THIS RACE AND DO YOU EXERT DURING THIS 400M RACE? >> Cooper: 400 IS SUCH A TOUGH RACE, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THE 800 METERS, IT'S BECOMING HARDER AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE HARDEST TRACK EVENTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE INDOOR AREA, BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS RING PLAY HERE FROM THE WOMEN'S 400 METERS AS DAYSHA'S COMING AROUND AND SHE'S PUSHING REALLY HARD, THE HARD PART ABOUT THE 400 IS JUST LONG ENOUGH TO WHERE YOUR BODY CAN REALLY LOCK UP AT THE END, PUT LOOK AT NATALI ENGLE HERE, HOW RELAXED SHE'S STAYING, HOW HER HEAD STAYS STILL, SHE'S BREATHING THAT'S ABOUT ALL YOU CAN DO, YOUR KNEES ARE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH YOUR ARMS, SHE'S DOING A NICE JOB HAVING THE ENERGY TO DO THAT BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE WASTED MOTION AND SO WITH TWO LAPS IN THAT, THE LONGER YOU CAN STAY RELAXED AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, HEY, LAST 100 METERS I'M PROBABLY GOING TO LOCK UP, BUT AS LONG AS I KEEP BREATHING AND CAN SEPARATE MY MIND FROM MY BODY, THAT'S GOING TO REALLY HELP ME FINISH OUT THAT RACE >> Will: AND WHEN YOU SAY LOCK UP, WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR BODY? WHAT'S THAT FEELING, THAT SENSATION? THAT GOES DOWN IN YOUR BODY

>> Cooper: OTHER THAN JUST YOUR BODY SCREAMING AT YOU, HEY, PLEASE STOP, YOU HAVE — >> Will: WHAT ARE YOU DOING? >> Cooper: THE LACTIC SIDHU — ACID BUILD UP, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A LOT OF RACES, 400 METERS AND OLDER, YOUR BODY'S JUST WANTING TO SHUT DOWN, AND YOU SEE PEOPLE COLLAPSE AFTER RACES, YOU SEE — WE JUST SAW THAT IN THE LAST HEAT, JUST YOUR BODY IS PROBABLY NOT USED TO THAT, ESPECIALLY COMING OFF OF CHRISTMAS BREAK >> Will: I BELIEVE THAT'S CHEYENNE CHEEK WHO COLLAPSED AFTER THE RACE, SHE'S GETTING ATTENTION HERE TRYING TO GET SOME FEELING BACK IN HER LEGS, IF YOU WILL, A LITTLE BIT OF A SCARY MOMENT, BUT I'M SURE SHE'LL BE ALL RIGHT AS WE GET HERE THE MEN'S SIDE OF THE 400M DASH HERE, ABOUT TO GET UNDERWAY THIS HEAT NUMBER ONE OF FOUR, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE SHOCKER RUNNING THE FRESHMAN LUCAS SHAFFER, AND SURROUNDING HIM IS BRYCE STEGEMAN, KADEN MCCOY, PRINCE GAY OUT OF OBU, JUMP BROYLES, AND GLEN PHISBY >> Cooper: IF YOU WATCH THE GUYS ON THE OUTSIDE, THOSE ARE THE GUYS YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT

IF YOU TAKE IT OUTDOORS, YOU LOOK AT LANE FOUR AND FIVE, THOSE ARE THE FASTEST RACERS, BUT INDOORS IT'S AN ADVANTAGE TO BE ON THE INSIDE, THE LESS CURVE YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THE BETTER YOU CAN SEE COMING AROUND, WINNING THE POLE, THAT'S FROM FRIENDS GLEN WHISBY, THE SOPHOMORE OUT OF FRIENDS FROM WICHITA STATE, LUCAS SHAFFER, HE'S A MULTI I WANT TO SEE HIM RUN BETTER THAN HE'S SEEDED YOU CAN SEE HIM REALLY KICKING IT IN RIGHT NOW, THIS MAY BE — IT'S HARD TO TELL WITH THIS LEVEL OF COMPETITION IN THIS RACE,

>> Will: GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHERE HE IS, HE'S IN THE FOUR LANE, HE CAME IN WITH THE TIME OF 5440, AND HE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS EITHER DEAD ON WITH THAT OR ONE WAY OR THE OTHER >> Cooper: IT'S TOO HARD TO TELL, AND MANY OF THE ATHLETES IT'S TOO EARLY IN THE SEASON W HE DO DON'T KNOW WHAT SHAPE HE'S IN ESPECIALLY LUCAS, HE'S A FRESHMAN, THAT'S HIS FIRST 400 RACE, HE'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT OH, SHOULD I HAVE WON THE POLE LAYUP, SHOULD I HAVE RUNED HARDER IN THE LAP SHOULD I HAVE KICKED IN IN SOONER, KICKED IN IN LATER? >> Will: HOW MUCH IS THE COACH COMING IN WHEN TO TURN IT ON, WHEN IT KICK IT IN, WHAT YOU SHOULD DO, AND WHAT A COACH TELLS YOU YOU SHOULD DO VERSUS WHAT YOU THINK YOU SHOULD DO? >> Cooper: AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE BODY IS FIGHTING AGAINST YOU AND SCREAMING AT YOU, IT'S HARD TO HEAR YOUR COACH IN THAT AS WELL, YOU CAN SEE PROBABLY HERE IN THIS REPLAY SOME OF THE KICK THAT LUCAS SHAFFER EXPRESSED

SO I MENTIONED WINNING THE POLE, AND YOU CAN SEE OUT IN LANE 6 GLEN WAS WINNING THAT, BUT HE DID NOT WIN — END UP WINNING THE RACE SO YEAH, IT'S IMPORTANT, HE'S IN A STRATEGIC POSITION, HE PROBABLY SCREWED UP SOME OF THE OTHER RACERS, BECAUSE THEY HAD TO FIGHT TO GET AROUND HIM, THEY DIDN'T RUN THEIR BEST TIME, BUT THAT WAS HIS STRATEGY, AND I THINK THAT'S A WISE STRATEGY IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE KICK, YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE ENERGY IN THAT RACE >> Will: SECTION 2, GOING TO GET UNDERWAY HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE NO SHOCKERS RUNNING IN THIS RACE, WE'LL WAIT TO GET THEM ALL IN THEIR BLOCKS SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHO'S WHO, WHAT'S, WHAT, BEFORE I GIVE YOU THE NAME OF ALL OF THESE ATHLETES BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'LL SEE AN OTTAWA UNIVERSITY ATHLETE IN THIS RACE AND WHILE WE HAVE SOME DOWNTIME, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT CLOSED CAPTIONING IS PROVIDED ON BEHALF OF ORPHEUM THEATRE, WICHITA'S NONPROFIT CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS, CONCERTS, FILMS AND MORE

IF MORE INFORMATION YOU CAN HEAD UP THE WORLDWIDE WEB AT WICHITA ORPHEUMCOM THANK YOU, FOR HELPING US WITH OUR PRODUCTION COSTS OTTAWA UNIVERSITY OUT OF ARIZONA, JUST SIX MONTHS OLD, PRETTY REMARKABLE TO THINK THAT THAT'S A REAL THING AND CARLOS NELSON, I BELIEVE IS THE FIRST WE'VE SEEN SINCE WE'VE BEEN UP HERE BROADCASTING SINCE 2:30 THIS AFTERNOON, COMPETE TODAY, AND THAT'S PRETTY COOL, AND THERE'S A LOOK AT HIM RIGHT THERE

>> Cooper: YEAH, I BELIEVE CARLOS COMPETED IN THE HIGH JUMP EARLIER TODAY, WE DID NOT SEE THAT AS MUCH, BUT YEAH, HE'S GOING TO BE SETTING — THE FUN THING IS YOU'RE COMING IN HERE SETTING THE SCHOOL RECORD >> Will: YOU'RE THE KING OF THE KING, KING OF THE HILL, YOU'RE THE BOSS >> Cooper: IT'S FUN TO SEE THAT NOW, THIS RACE HERE, WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS RACE, IT'S ALL FRESHMEN EXCEPT FOR ONE SOPHOMORE OUT OF OKLAHOMA BAPTIST THAT'S BRANDON CROWLEY HERE IN LANE THREE HE'S NOT THE FASTEST SEEDED TIME, FASTEST SEEDED IS LANE 5, GABE KUHN

I DON'T THINK THEY'LL BE RUNNING THOSE TIMES, I THINK IT'S HOPEFUL THIS IS THEIR FIRST RACE IN COLLEGE, WE'LL SEE HOW THEY DO >> Will: SHIRVANTES IN THIS RACE, AND ANOTHER LOCAL RUNNER IN LANE ONE, CADIN GUSTAFSON OUT OF FRIENDS AS WELL >> Cooper: YOU SEE A GREAT START BY GABE KUHN THAT'S FANTASTIC I THINK HE'LL HOLD IT, BEING THE FASTEST SEEDED RUNNER, HE'S BUILT VERY WELL, HE SEEMS VERY CONFIDENT IN HIS 400M RACING, HE'S PROBABLY GOTTEN LOTS OF CONFIDENCE FROM HIGH SCHOOL COMING INTO THIS

HE WINS THE POLE WE SEE AN ATHLETE GETTING TRIPPED UP — >> Will: TAKING A SPILL >> Cooper: RUNNING ON THE INSIDE, HE RAN TOO CLOSE, INSIDE OF THE CONES, YOU WANT TO STAY OUTSIDE OF THE CONES, THAT JUST SHOWS SOME INEXPERIENCE >> Will: WHAT IS GOING ON THAT THAT HAPPENS? >> Cooper: SO WHAT YOU SAW FROM, IT LOOKED LIKE THE ATHLETE FROM OKLAHOMA BAPTIST, SHIRVANTE KNAULS, HE WAS TRYING TO WIN THE POLE COMING FROM THE INSIDE, WENT INSIDE THE CONES, SO HE WILL MOST LIKELY BE DISQUALIFIED >> Will: HE WAS IN THE CONES FOR ABOUT 20 STEPS TOO

>> Cooper: EXACTLY, YOU CAN'T GET AWAY WITH THAT, AND HE TRIPS UP HIS OTHER ATHLETE, UNFORTUNATELY, IN THAT RACE, AND THAT'S JUST — THAT JUST SHOWS INEXPERIENCE, THAT'S — THAT'S — HE'S A FRESHMAN, HE'S A SOPHOMORE, YOU HAVE THAT PROBLEM COMING INTO THIS RACE WHERE YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE — YOU PROBABLY NEVER RAN >> Will: EXCELLENT REVIEW, WE'LL SEE ON REPLAY HERE IN A SECOND YOU MENTIONED, HE DIDN'T JUST STEP OUTSIDE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE HE GOT LOST >> Cooper: EXACTLY, HE WAS GOING TO THE YELLOW LANE, THE FIRST LAYUP IN THE YELLOW HE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE CONES

HE'S NOT USED TO RUNNING IN THE HESKETT, HE'S NOT USED TO RUNNING IN COLLEGE, HE'S A LITTLE INEXPERIENCED WHETHER HE'S A SOPHOMORE OR FRESHMAN, I DON'T CARE, HE NEEDS MORE RACES UNDER HIS BELT INDOOR'S WEIRD TOO, IT'S NOT LIKE THE OUTDOOR 400 WHERE YOU STAY IN YOUR SAME LANE THE WHOLE TIME, THERE'S A DIFFERENT STRATEGY ASSOCIATED WITH IT SO UNFORTUNATELY HE DID TAKE OUT ANOTHER ATHLETE ON HIS TEAM AND HE'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, APOLOGIZE FOR THAT LATER >> Will: IF YOU'RE HIS TEAMMATE, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING TO HIM? >> Cooper: WHAT THE HECK, MAN! I'D BE A LITTLE TICKED IF I WAS HIM AND IT SEEMED LIKE HIS TEAMMATE THERE BRANDON CROWLEY WAS OUT WELL, AND SO THAT'S JUST A LACK OF EXPERIENCE FROM THE FRESHMAN FROM OKLAHOMA BAPTIST, AND A GOOD RUN OVERALL FROM THEM, IT'S GREAT TO GET A RUN UNDER THEIR BELTS, BUT HERE WE GO WITH THE THIRD HEAT

>> Will: THIRD HEAT WILL FEATURE ONE WICHITA STATE AT HLETE, IT WILL BE DAVIS BAHNER, THE FRESHMAN AND THEN RUNNING UNATTACHED IS DAVEN SIMMONS DILLON PHILLIPS OUT OF OBU, AND SHAKIRA WOODS AND SAYVON MILTON OUT OF OBU THESE ARE ALL FRESHMAN, ALTHOUGH SHAKIRA SHAZUAN WOODS WICHITA STATE STATE UP TOP BY 25 POINTS RIGHT NOW OVER OBU, 75 TO 55, THEN GOING DOWN FROM THERE, YOU HAVE EMPORIA STATE, FRIENDS, BUTLER COMMUNITY COACH AND FORT HAYS STATE

DOES ANYTHING SURPRISE YOU FROM THE OTHER TEAMS? WE LOOK AT THE WOMEN'S SIDE AS WELL, THE CALLED IT, THE SHOCKERS WOULDN'T LEAD LONG WHEN WE GOT DEEPER INTO THE TRACK POINTS, >> Cooper: I THINK ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE YOU SEE FRIENDS AHEAD BECAUSE THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF ATHLETES HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF ATHLETES COMPETING FOR THEIR PEOPLE WHEN IT COMES TO A SCORED MEET, IT DOESN'T MATTER REALLY WHO WINS FROM YOUR SCHOOL, IT MATTERS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THAT TOP SCORING POSITION SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT ONE PERSON FROM YOUR SCHOOL GETTING 10 POINTS IN FIRST PLACE BUT YOU GO ANOTHER TEAM GOES 2-3, THAT'S MORE POINTS THAN THE FIRST PLACE PERSON, OR IT'S AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF POINTS SO WE'RE SCORING THE MEET DOWN FROM 10 POINTS — >> Will: 8, 6, 2, 4, 1

>> Cooper: EXACTLY YOU CAN SCORE A LOT OF POINTS JUST BY HAVING THE VOLUME, AND THAT'S HOW WICHITA STATE DOES VERY WELL AND ON THE MEN'S SIDE FOR WICHITA STATE, THIS WOULD BE THE REASON THEY'RE AHEAD BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A QUALITY OF ATHLETES >> Cooper: >> Will: NOW, EXPLAIN THAT FOR THE VIEWERS WHY WE'RE DOING THE VIEWERS SCORING 10, 8, 6, 4, 1, AND WE'RE NOT DOING 10 THROUGH — >> Cooper: 10, 9, 8, 7? >> Will: YEAH >> Cooper: FIRST YOU HAVE A, THERE'S SIMPLY THE LANE LIMITATION

SO YOU WANT TO HAVE A FINALS RACE, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TWO HEATS OF FINALS THE 400 METERS RACES, 200M RACES, THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO BE FINALS SO WE MIGHT HAVE FOUR HEATS OF FINALS, BUT IF YOU SCORE OUT OF FINALS HEAT IN THE 60 METERS, THAT'S ONLY SEVEN ATHLETES THAT CAN COMPETE SO IN THE 60 HURDLES, THAT'S ONLY SIX ATHLETES THAT CAN COMPETE BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE SIX LANES RUNNING SO YOU SCORE OUT SIX PEOPLE IN A MEET, SO IT'S NOT ONLY LANE LIMITATION, BUT IT ALSO COMES DOWN TO SEPARATION IN SCORES, GREAT RUN THERE FROM THE OBU PAIR, THAT'S FROM LANE 4, DILLON PHILLIPS >> Will: SLOWED UP OR PULLED UP THERE FOR A SECOND, BUT LOOKED LIKE HE STARTED TO WAIL HIS ARMS AROUND A LITTLE BIT >> Cooper: YEAH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER — THERE WAS ANOTHER YOUNG RACE, EVERYONE WAS A FRESHMAN IN THAT PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, ON THE TASK FROM BUTLER, I CAN ONLY ASSUME PROBABLY A FRESHMAN, IF NOT A SOPHOMORE, STILL VERY, VERY YOUNG

DAVIS BAHNER DID NOT COMPETE, HE'S A MULTI, HE'LL PROBABLY COMPETE THIS WEEKEND, MAY JUST NOT BE FEELING THE 400 METERS >> Cooper: THE RECORD IS 4747 SET BY DARRYL HAYES IN 2011 IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN I SAW IT ORIGINALLY, THAT DILLON PHILLIPS KIND OF PULLED UP AND WAS STOPPING BUT APPARENTLY I WAS WRONG >> Cooper: HE HAD A GREAT KICK AT THE END, AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S COMPETING WITH ANOTHER TEAMMATE OF HIS, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE YEAH, DO YOU WANT — YOU DON'T WANT TO UPDATE THEM REALLY, HE'S COMPETING FOR HIMSELF, AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD

HE RAN AN INTERESTING RACE, SHOWS SOME OF THE INEXPERIENCE, HE HAD A LOT MORE ENERGY AT THE END, I THINK HE COULD HAVE LED THE ENTIRE RACE IF HE WANTED TO, BUT SOME PEOPLE LIKE THE THRILL OF COMING FROM BEHIND AND OVERTAKING A RACE AS WELL, AND I THINK THAT JUST GOES TO SHOW THE LEVEL OF COMPETITIVE NATURE INSIDE HIM, BUT ALSO THE INEXPERIENCE IF YOU'VE GOT THE SPEED YOU DON'T WANT TO SAVE IT UNTIL THE END THE 400 IS PRETTY MUCH A SPRINT THE ENTIRE TIME AND TRYING TO RELAX AND MASTER YOUR MIND OVER YOUR BODY >> Will: SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S HIS FIRST TIME EVER RUNNING THE 400, WHY WOULD AN ATHLETE — HE'S YOUNG HERE, AT THE COLLEGIATE LEVEL HE'S YOUNG IN COLLEGE, BUT JUST A YEAR AGO HE WAS A VETERAN AS A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL SO WHAT GETS LOST IN TRANSLATION, IF YOU WILL, AND WHEN AND WHY AND HOW? >> Cooper: THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDOOR AND OUTDOOR

NOT ONLY WAS HE PROBABLY TOP DOG — I DON'T KNOW WHERE DILLON'S FROM, BUT IF HE'S FROM THE SOUTH, HONESTLY, IN TEXAS, YOU CAN COMPETE YEAR AROUND BECAUSE THE WEATHER'S SO GOOD I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'S FROM, HE COULD BE FROM OKLAHOMA OR KANSAS, NO MATTER WHERE HE'S COMING, THE DIFFERENCE IS YOU'RE NOT RUNNING ONE LAP, YOU'RE RUNNING TWO, YOU'RE NOT RUNNING OUTDOOR, YOU'RE RUNNING INDOOR, AND THAT CAN BE INTIMIDATING, AND THAT'S ENOUGH, WHERE TRACK WHERE THE TINIEST TWEAK CAN THROW OFF YOUR RACE, WHICH MEANS YOU MIGHT WIN OR WON'T COMPETE THAT DAY >> Will: YOU HAD A LOOK AT JORDYN MINOR OUT OF MINE-OUT, UNIVERSITY, THAT'S UNIVERSITY OUT OF ARIZONA, JUST REMARKABLE, JUST SIX MONTHS OLD AS A SCHOOL, YOU ALSO HAVE DEVONTRAE YOUNG OUT OF OKLAHOMA BAPTIST, ELIJAH SPENCER, BRIAN CARTER RUNNING UNATTACHED AND KLAYTON HONEYCUTT HE HAS THE BEST RECORD COMING IN

>> Will: USE WE ONLY HAVE THREE ATHLETES, FROM BUTLER, LANE 3, FROM OKLAHOMA BAPTIST HAS SCRATCHED AS WELL, SO WE HAVE THE ATHLETE FROM OTTAWA OUT OF ARIZONA, WE HAVE KLAYTON HONEYCUTT ON THE OUTSIDE, HE WILL BE THE ONE TO WATCH AND THEN YOU HAVE THE UNATTACHED ATHLETE FROM BUTLER IN BLACK THERE, ELIJAH SPENCER ELIJAH TAKES THE POLE >> Will: I'D BE FASCINATED TO TALK TO ONE OF THESE OTTAWA ATHLETES BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FRESHMEN AND THE IF A CAN'T THEY'RE KNEW TO THIS, THEY'RE NEW TO COLLEGIATE ATHLETICS AND THE ATMOSPHERE AND COMPETING AT THIS LEVEL HOW ABOUT ONE COMPETING AT AT THE SCHOOL THEY'VE DONE BEFORE, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR IN EXISTENCE, THE FIRST TIME AS A TRACK TEAM IN COMPETITION AND EVERYTHING YOU DO IS GOING TO BE A RECORD

THAT'S GOT TO BE A RECORD SECOND TO NOTHING LIKE YOU'VE NEVER FELT BEFORE >> Cooper: GREAT FINISH BY HONEY CUT — HONEYCUTT THERE I WOULD SAY TO THE OTTAWA ATHLETES, THERE'S SO MUCH RESPECT GIVEN TO SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO STEP OUT AND PILOT A PROGRAM THESE ATHLETES, WITH — IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ATHLETE FROM OTTAWA, HE'S A FRESHMAN, YES, AND I THINK WE LOOKED AT THE OTHER FRESHMEN EARLIER, SO A LOT OF THESE WHO — THESE ATHLETES OR QUOTE UNQUOTE ATHLETES WHO MAY HAVE BEEN AT OTTAWA FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT YEARS, THEY'RE NOT COMING IN AS A JUNIOR, THESE FRESHMEN ARE PILOTING THIS PROGRAM, THEY'RE STEPPING UP, AND THEY KNOW THEY PROBABLY ARE GOING TO COMPETE WITH THESE — AREN'T GOING TO COMPETE WITH THESE TEAMS, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE SOME ENCOURAGEMENT TO KEEP THE SCHOOL RECORD OR SET THE SCHOOL RECORD >> Will: TELL YOUR GRANDKIDS

>> Cooper: EXACTLY I FUTURE'S ONLY LOOKING BRIGHTER FOR THEM AND THE MORE YOU COMPETE, THE MORE PEOPLE SEE YOU, THE MORE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT YOUR SCHOOL, AND NOT JUST THE ACADEMICS, BUT ATHLETES IS A GREAT WAY — ATHLETICS IS A GREAT WAY ADVERTISE YOUR SCHOOL PEOPLE SEE YOU AT THOSE TRACK MEETS, AS YOU DEVELOP AS AN ATHLETE PEOPLE NOTICE THAT, AND YOU CAN ATTRACT TALENT LIKE THAT AND I THINK THAT'S MORE RESOURCES OR OUTLETS FOR STUDENTS TO — TO COMPETE AND COME PARTICIPATE AND TO DEVELOP AS JUST A COLLEGIATE

>> Will: THE COMMUNITY HAS SOMETHING TO RALLY AROUND, BUILD AROUND AND BE A PART OF, YOU CREATE A FAN BASE THAT WAY DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THEIR FAN BASE IS RIGHT NOW, BEING HAIR HALF A YEAR — THEY'RE HALF A YEAR INTO THIS WHOLE ENDEAVOR, BUT YOU ARE THE FIRST OF EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW AT A UNIVERSITY >> Cooper: AND I IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, THEIR PARENTS WATCHING AT HOME RIGHT NOW, ARE WATCHING AT MEETS, VERY, VERY PROUD OF THIS AND IT'S EXCITING, YOU KNOW, AS, YOU KNOW, MY PARENTS CAME TO MEETS, THEY WEREN'T TRACK ATHLETES, MY DAD WAS A FOOTBALL PLAYER, MY MOM WAS A CHEERLEADER, MY DAD ACTUALLY PLAYED FOR WICHITA STATE HERE BACK IN THE LATE '70s >> Will: WOW, VERY COOL! >> Cooper: AND YOU KNOW, COMING INTO TRACK, HE WAS USED TO HAVING FANS ON A FOOTBALL FIELD AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND TRACK REALLY THE FANS THAT ARE HERE ARE EITHER YOUR FRIENDS OR FAMILY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST TRACK FANS UNLESS YOU'RE IN A CERTAIN COMMUNITY LIKE OREGON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT

SO I IMAGINE THEIR PARENTS ARE VERY, VERY THRILLED AND VERY THRILLED TO TRAVEL TO SOME OF THESE TRACK MEETS AND SEE HOW WELL THEIR KIDS DO >> Will: AND RIGHTFULLY SO SO NOW WE HAVE THE WOMEN'S 600M RUN ON DECK LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE 400M FOR THE MEN'S, THE WINNER WAS OUT OF OBU, FIRST TWO SPOTS OUT OF IBU, WITH TIMES OF 5090, AND 50

55 THEY EARN TOP POINTS FOR THEIR TEAMS, BUT AGAIN, COMING UP NEXT, AS THE MEET IS STILL PERFECTLY ON TIME AT 5:10, WE ARE SET TO HAVE THE 600M RUN, THIS FIRST SECTION ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE, SO WE'LL GET YOU THOSE NAMES ONCE THEY GET IN THEIR GET IN THEIR BLOCKS AND READY TO ROLL ONE MORE TIME >> Cooper: THE OFFICIALS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB KEEPING THIS MEET ON TIME THAT'S IMPORTANT TO AN ATHLETE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LATER IN THE MEET, YOU'RE A DISTANCE RUNNER AND RUNNING THE 3-K AFTER THE MEET STARTED AT 10:30, YOU'RE RUNNING AT 5, YOU'RE GOING, LET'S GET THIS THING GOING ON TIME, I WANT TO GET HOME >> Will: I HAVE A DATE TONIGHT

THE GIRLS ARE RUNNING IN THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WICHITA STATE ATHLETES, WE HAVE FRIENDS SENIOR SAMANTHA MELLOW, I CAN'T SEE MINUTE RIGHT RUNNING UNATTACHED OUT OF WICHITA STATE BREANNA HURLBUT, ELIZABETH BLEVINS, OKAY BAPTIST, BROOKLYN JAMES, BETHANY VONDA IF YOU'RE A SHOCKER FAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT LANE 8 AND 2, EVEN THOUGH LANE 2 IS UNATTACHED >> Cooper: THE 600 METERS THREE LAPS, IT'S NOT A RACE FOR DIVISION I ATHLETES, D 2 HAS IT, AND THE NAIA HAS IT, BUT IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL RACE FOR DIVISION 1 YOU SEE I CAN'T YAZIM BRIGHT DOING A FANTASTIC JOB

WE HAVE HER IN THIS QUASI DISTANCE SPRINT RACE RIGHT UP HER ALLEY I COULD SEE HER DOING WELL AT THE 800, OUTDOOR AND INDOOR, 600 IS PROBABLY WRIGHT UP HER ALLEY, YOU CAN SEE OUT FRONT OF OTHER ATHLETE FROM WICHITA, NATALIE HALFMAN THIS IS A GREAT EXERCISE FOR A 400M TO ADD ANOTHER LAP ONTO A SPRINT, IT'S TERRIBLE, BUT IT IS A GREAT PRACTICE FOR YOU TO GET USED TO YOUR BODY LOCKING UP OUTDOOR AND STAYING RELAXED SO THREE LAPS ADDS A LITTLE BIT MORE VARIATION TO IT, A LITTLE BIT MORE STRATEGY, ESPECIALLY IF THE RACE WAS A BIT CLOSER HERE I'VE RUN THIS RACE AT NEBRASKA ON A BANK TRACK, IT'S VERY, VERY INTERESTING, RUNNING THAT RACE, AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IN CONFERENCE STANDINGS, HERE COMES NATALIE HALFMAN RIGHT BEHIND HER

GREAT RUNS FOR BOTH OF THOSE GIRLS NATALIE BEATING HER SEED TIME I BELIEVE HE RAN AROUND A 1:36 ABOUT THAT >> Will: IMAGINE IT'S EASIER TO GO FROM CROSS COUNTRY STYLE TO A SPRINT VERSUS SPRINT TO CROSS COUNTRY STYLE >> Cooper: WELL, IT'S A DIFFERENT BODY TYPE, IT'S A DIFFERENT POWER

SO YOU HAVE FAST TWITCH MOTION, YOU HAVE FITNESS, YOU HAVE CARDIO AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE AN OUTSTANDING CARDIOVASCULAR RUNNER IF YOU ARE A SPRINTER NOW, IN THE 400 IT IS VERY HELPFUL, BUT COMPARE THAT TO CROSS COUNTRY, YOU HAVE TO BE VERY EFFICIENT WITH THE OXYGEN THAT YOU TAKE IN, USUALLY IT'S A LIGHTER RUNNER, USUALLY IT'S A THINNER RUNNER, NOT ONLY BECAUSE — BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING SO MUCH AND THEY'RE LOSING SO MUCH WEIGHT, BUT YOU JUST CAN'T KEEP MUSCLE ON, IF YOU'RE PUTTING IN THAT MANY MILES SO IT'S FUN TO SEE A — A SPRINTER DO WELL IN CROSS COUNTRY, CROSS COUNTRY RUNNER DO WELL IN THE SPRINTS AS WELL, SO YOU CAN SEE THE REPLAY HERE >> Will: AND NATALIE OBVIOUSLY VERY EXCITED AS YOU SAW HER GIVING HIGH FIVES TO DON WISE AND OTHER SPECTATORS AS WELL, CLEARLY SHE DID HERSELF GOOD TODAY FOR SHOCKERS >> Cooper: SHE JUST SHOWED SO MUCH STRENGTH IN THAT RACE, WHICH IS GOING TO PLAY VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IN THE 400 METERS

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 600 AND THE 400 >> Will: ABOUT 200? >> Cooper: NOT JUST ONE LAP — I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO SAY, WILL, GO BACK TO FAN BASE, BUT IT'S STRENGTH MORE IN THE 600, IT'S SPEED MORE IN THE 400 SPRINGS PLAYS IN BOTH OF THEM — STRENGTH PLAYS IN BOTH OF THEM OBVIOUSLY, BUT SPEED IS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE IMPORTANT SO NATALIE IS GOING TO HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO TRANSLATE THAT STRENGTH FROM THE 400 METERS INTO SPEED >> Will: WE HAVE JUST ONE 600M RUN ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE, TWO SELECTIONS FOR THE MEN GETTING UNDERWAY IN A COUPLE OF MINUTE ON THE MEN'S SIDE FOR THE 600M

WE'LL HAVE TWO SECTIONS AND WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY WICHITA STATE ATHLETES RUNNING AT ALL, SO WE'LL HAVE FIVE RUNNERSANCY SIX RUNNERS AND NONE OF THEM WILL BE SHOCKERS, UNFORTUNATELY, FOR OUR SHOCKER FANS OUT HERE BUT NATALIE HALFMAN 1:7578 RIGHTED BEHIND HER NATALI RIGHT, 1:65

33 SHE'S UNATTACHED, SHE WON'T BRING HOPE POINTS FOR HER TEAM THE WOMEN ARE 15, 16 1/2 POINTS OUT OF FIRST PLACE BEHIND OBU, SHOCKER 81 >> Cooper: I SUSPECT OBU WE'LL OVERTAKE THE MEN AS WELL, IT'S ABOUT THE VOLUME OF ATHLETES, NOT NECESSARILY THE QUALITY THEY DO HAVE QUALITY ATHLETES, BUT WICHITA STATE, IF YOU'RE JUST THROWING IN ONE GUY AGAINST SIX OTHER PEOPLE FROM OBU, THEY'RE GOING TO GET MORE POINTS OVERALL, AND WHICH IS TO SAY I KNOW THEY'RE NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE MEET IN TEAM SCORING BUT IT IS A GOOD WAY TO ENCOURAGE COMPETITION WITH OTHER SCHOOLS AND COMPETE WITH PITCHES

>>> WICHITA STATE ARE TIED WITH THE TEAM STORE, OBU WILL BE IN FIRST PLACE AT THE END OF THIS WITHOUT A DOUBT BECAUSE THEY HAVE FOUR RUNNERS IN THE SECOND SECTION, WICHITA STATE HAS ZERO RUNNERS BETWEEN THE TWO IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET ANY POINTS WITH ZERO RUNNERS WE HAVE LANE ONE, ETHAN MAXSON, MACK HAMILTON RUNNING UNATTACHED, LA MONEY SUAREZ, MARIO THOMAS, AND LEROY WILL >> Cooper: I'M GOING TO MAKE A PREDICTION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A RECORD OUT OF RA MONEY SUAREZ THE TRACK RECORD IS 1:20

94 RECEIVED BY ISAAC CLARK FROM FRIENDS IS HE GOING TO BEAT THAT RECORD? >> Cooper: 1:20 IS A GREAT RECORD >> Will: WHAT WE LOOKING FOR? >> Cooper: IN THIS HEAT ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR BELOW 1:25 IS GOING TO BE GREAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO BE GREAT AT THOSE EVENTS, BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME OF THE SEASON, THE 600'S HARD TO PUT YOUR THUMB ON AS TO WHAT MIGHT BE THE BEST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU RUN UNDER 1:20, YOU'LL SEE AN ATHLETE RUN A 600 UNDER 1:20 EASILY >> Cooper: EASILY

>> Will: ONLY HAVE THREE RUNNERS IN THIS RACE, OR TWO RUNNERS DROPPED OUT, UNLESS I'M MISSING TWO >> Cooper: NO, THERE'S ONLY — >> Will: THERE'S ONLY THREE IN THIS ONE AND THERE'S THE BELL LAP >> Cooper: THEY TOOK OFF REALLY QUICKLY THIS IS A YOUNG CREW, HERE COMPETING, THE TWO ATHLETES UNATTACHED FROM BUTLER, EITHER IN THEIR FIRST OR SECOND YEAR, AND THEN YOU HAVE RA MONEY SUAREZ FROM OTTAWA, UNIVERSITY, HE'S A FRESHMAN

I THINK THEY TOOK OFF TOO SOON, YOU SEE TOO MUCH ENERGY BEING SPENT IN THE LAST 100 METERS, THEY SAVED TOO MUCH, 600 IS HARD TO PUT YOUR THUMB ON AND A GREAT RUN BY THESE ATHLETES AT THE END >> Will: AND THAT WOULD BE LEROY WILSON THE THIRD RUNNING UNATTACHED WITH BUTLER COMING IN FIRST PLACE AND A NEW SCHOOL RECORD, BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET, THOUGH, BUT RAMON SUAREZ NOBODY CAN SAY THEY SET A SCHOOL RECORD — NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY SET A RECORD AT ANYTHING THAT'S THE ONE SECTION OF THE MEN'S 600 METERS, ANOTHER SECTION COMING UP, WE'LL GET TO THOSE

HERE'S A REPLAY THE FIRST SECTION YOU THOUGHT THEY EXPENDED TOO MUCH ENERGY EARLY ON AND YOU COULD SEE RAMON IN THE BACKGROUND, HIS ARMS GETTING A LITTLE BIT OUT OF CONTROL, >> Cooper: YOU SEE, AND I WATCHED, IT'S NOT ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO THE RACE, ABOUT YOU THEY DID GET OUT REALLY HARD, WHICH MEANS THERE WAS JUST A LULL IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN THEY FINISHED REALLY HARD YOU GO, WELL, THAT JUST SHOWS, THE 600 IS AN ODD RACE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO RUN IT, THAT'S WHAT IT'S TELLING ME IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE RACE, IT'S A GOOD WAY TO FIND OUT HOW WELL YOU'RE DOING MAYBE IN THE 400

HERE'S ARE THE FINAL RESULTS FROM THE WOMEN'S 600M NATALIE HALFMAN TOOK THAT PLAYS, 1:35, HER TEAM RIGHT YAZMINE RIGHT BEHIND HER, WITH A 1:365 THAT'S BETTER THAN I THOUGHT, AND DEFINITELY BETTER THAN HER SEED TIME 18 POINTS FOR — WELL, 10 POINTS FOR THE SHOCKERS, WE DON'T COUNT THAT UNATTACHED ATHLETE IN THE SECOND

>> Will: WE HAVE FIVE RUNNERS IN THE RACE, WE HAVE RUN RUNNER DROP OUT, AT A LOOKS TO BE MAX HAMILTON THE SENIOR OUT OF FRIENDS, ISAAC CLARK, AND TWO MORE SENIORS OUT OF OBU, CARLOS JAMES, DAKOTA KAPPELLE OBU WILL BE IN FIRST PLACE ON THE MEN'S SIDE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE RUNNER'S WICHITA DOESN'T >> Cooper: I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO WATCH LANES 4 AND 5, THE RECORD HOLDER IS ISAAC CLARK OUT OF LANE THREE AND THE FASTEST SEED TIME IS THE SENIOR FROM OKLAHOMA BAPTIST CARLOS JAMES THESE ARE TWO SENIORS, TWO EXPERIENCED GUYS, VERY, VERY QUICK RUNNERS, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A VERY, VERY GOOD RACE HERE TODAY

>> Will: SO ISAAC CLARK HOLDS THE SHOCKER PRELUDE RECORD, THE HESKETT RECORD, HE'S IN LANE THREE WITH 1:2094 DOES THAT ADD ANYTHING? >> Cooper: I THINK YOU COME WITH A SWAGGER OF CONFIDENCE IT'S AN ODD RACE TO HAVE A RECORD IN, SO YOU'RE PROUD OF KIND OF AN UNOFFICIAL RACE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY RUN THAT AT FRIENDS REGULARLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY RUN IT AT OBU REGULARLY, BUT COMING IN AS A RECORD HOLDER IN ANYTHING YOU JUST KIND OF GO, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS MY RACE TO LOSE

YOU HAVE A TARGET ON YOUR BACK, AND THAT'S SOME LEVEL OF MOTIVATION HERE FOR ISAAC CLARK YOU SEE THEM COMING THROUGH THE POLE IN FRONT THAT'S ISAAC CLARK, HE'S GOT QUITE A FEW STEPS THERE ON THE OBU ATHLETES >> Will: LOOKS LIKES THEY CAME OUT PRETTY HOT AS WELL >> Cooper: THEY'RE RUNNING THE RACE RIGHT

WE SAW A LOT OF FRESHMEN OR THREE FRESHMEN IN THAT FIRST RACE, THESE GUYS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WHEN THEY RUN THIS RACE, SO THEY COME OUT HOT, BUT YOU SEE THEM RELAXING AND KEEPING THEIR SPEED THROUGH THIS NEXT LAP IN THE MIDDLE, AND NOW THEY COME AROUND ON THE LAST LAP, AND IT LOOKS LIKE ISAAC'S GOING TO HAVE THIS HANDEDLY, UNLESS WE CAN FIND SOME ENERGY OUT OF CARLOS PM IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S STARTING TO KICK IT IN, BUT I DON'T THINK WITH THAT GAP >> Will: AS MUCH AS HE MIGHT KICK IT IN, CARLOS, I CAN ISAAC MIGHT AS WELL IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT DISTANCE HE CREATED EARLY ON IN THIS RACE AND HERE THEY COME AROUND THE FINAL TURN >> Cooper: HE IS CLOSING THE GAP

AND ISAAC JUST LOOKING AT HIM, STAYING RELAXED ACROSS THE LANE >> Will: VERY CALM, CALM, RELAXED, CONFIDENT >> Cooper: A GREAT RACE BY TWO ATHLETES WHO ARE EXPERIENCED WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THEIR FACES YOU CAN SEE IT IN HOW THEY RUN YOU CAN SEE IT IN THEIR FORM

>> Will: STRESS FREE >> Cooper: EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER — WHATEVER'S GOING THROUGH THEIR MIND, THEY MAY BE THINKING, OH, GOSH, MY BODY'S LOCKING UP, WHATEVER, THEY'RE SCREAMING ON THE INSIDE, BUT THE — TO NOT DISPLAY THAT OUTWARDLY AND TO KEEP YOUR WITS ABOUT YOU TOWARDS THE ENDS OF A THREE-LAP SPRINT, THAT'S SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT AND GOES TO SHOW YOU THE EXPERIENCE IN BOTH OF THOSE ATHLETES >> Will: THAT WRAPS UP THE MEN'S 600 METERS, NOW WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK COMING UP BEFORE WE GET TO THE — LET'S SEE WHAT WHIFF COMING UP, 800M RUN ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE, THAT WILL HAVE ONE SECTION RIGHT NOW WE'LL HEAD TO BREAK, BUT BEFORE WE DO SO, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK PRODUCTION SUPPORT FOR SHOCKER PRELUDE

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND ALSO WE'D LIKE TO THANK LARRY AND SUSIE CONRAD FOR PRODUCTION SUPPORT OF THE SHOCKER PRELUDE THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LARRY AND SUSIE FOR YOUR CONTINUED AND EVER LOVING SUPPORT FOR THE SHOCKER TEAM WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THIS WITH THE 800M RUN >> Will: WELCOME BACK HERO TO THE 10TH ANNUAL SHOCKER PRELUDE AT THE HESKETT CENTER, I'M WILL KUNKEL, JOINED BY COOPER HANNING AND JENNY PINKSTON THE HEAD COACH OF WICHITA STATE, GOING TO MAKE SOME ROOM, COOP

WE'RE JOINED BY — LET'S GET AN EXTRA HEADSET HERE WE'VE GOT OUR SHOCKER GEAR ON GET UNDERWAY WITH THE 800M HERE ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE BUT IN THE MEANTIME, COACH, WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN OUT OF YOUR ATHLETES? ARE YOU PLEASED? >> YEAH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S — THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAPPENED SO FAR, I WAS REALLY PLEASED WITH, WELL, I MEAN, I WON'T REMEMBER ALL THE GOOD THINGS IF I SIT HERE WITHOUT MEET RESULTS IN FRONT OF ME BUT I WAS REALLY HAPPY WITH MILES GRIFFITH HIGH JUMPING, YOU KNOW, 6, 9 1/2, 6'9" AND THREE QUARTERS I WAS EMBRYOSED WITH DAVID BAHNER RUNNING THE LONG JUMP

THAT GUY IS COMING OFF A HORRIBLE ANKLE INJURY, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME IN A WICHITA STATE UNIFORM AND HE DID REAL WELL IN THE LONG JUMP AND HE'S A DECATHLON GUY, SO HE'LL — THAT BODES WELL FOR HIM IN THE DECATHLON I SAW SOME GOOD THINGS IN THE POLE VAULT OVER THERE ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE — IN THE MEN'S POLE VAULT, BUT IT WAS MOSTLY MULTI EVENT GUYS AND WOMEN'S HIGH JUMP, KATIE MURRAY IN THE SPRINTS AND HURDLES, CLIFFORD ROBINSON, THAT WAS GOOD RUNNING FOR HIM

DIDN'T HE RUN A 6:89? >> Cooper: HE RAN REALLY, REALLY WELL >> AND I WAS SUPER EXPRESSED WITH THE 600M RUN WE WATCHED A FEW MINUTES AGO WITH NATALIE HALFMAN SO ANYWAY, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAVE HAPPENED FOR AN EARLY SEASON, YOU KNOW, HECK, A SEASON OPENER AND THIS RIGHT HERE IS IMPRESSIVE FOR REBEKAH TOPHAM SHE'S JUST A STAR

AND REALLY IMPRESSIVE I'M IMPRESSED WATCHING HER >> Cooper: SHE COMPETED IN CROSS COUNTRY IN THE FALL? >> LET'S SEE NO, SHE DID NOT, WE RED SHIRTED HER THE WHOLE YEAR I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, BUT REBEKAH TOPHAM, IS OR WAS A CHILD PHENOM

AT AGE SO AROUND THE TIME WHEN NOT TOO FAR, COOPER, SHE CAME TO THE KANSAS RELAYS AND BEAT ALL THE KANSAS GIRLS IN THE 5,000 METERS >> THAT'S HUMBLING >> Will: KENDRA HENDRICK RUNNING IN — HENRY RUNNING IN LANE 8 WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT HER? SHE'S YOUNG >> Will: KENDRA IS AN ATHLETE, SHE'S DOING A NICE JOB FOR HEP HEPCATHON GIRL

COOPER MIGHT KNOW >> Cooper: SOMETIMES BETTER TO GET THROUGH IT, THE CLOSE AND THE JUMPS >> SHE WAS A GOOD THROWER, A HECK OF A BASKETBALL PLAYER, AND ALL AROUND ATHLETE, AND SHE RAN THE MILE RUN IN THE STATE TRACK MEET AS A HIGH SCHOOL GIRL, AND SHE'S A BIG POWERFULLY BUILT STRONG JAVELIN THROWER GIRL WHO IS A HIGH JUMPER AND A BASKETBALL PLAYER, SO IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING, THE OTHER GIRLS CAN'T BELIEVE SHE RAN THE MILE AT STATE TRACK AS A HIGH SCHOOL GIRL >> Cooper: SO THE MULTI EVENTS IS A LARGE EMPHASIS AND I KNOW I'VE GOT TO KEEP YOU FROM TALKING TOO MUCH ABOUT IT BUT TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU CAME FROM K

U, YOU WERE A — A ALL AMERICAN DECATHLON AT KU, TELL ME WHY YOU HAVE SO MUCH EMPHASIS ON THE MULTI EVENTS >> I'M A DECATHLON GUY, I LIKE THE MULTI EVENTS, AT SOME POINT AS A COACH YOU BEGIN TO REALIZE, AND ESPECIALLY ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE HOW MUCH DAMAGE GOOD MULTI EVENTERS CAN DO

I MEAN, THE PERFECT EXAMPLE, I KNOW YOU ALL INTERVIEWED HUNTER VEITH EARLIER, HUNTER IS A GREAT EXAMPLE ON THE MEN'S SIDE, HE'S A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OUT THE MEN'S SIDE OUTDOORS LAST YEAR WE DID NOT HAVE HUNTER DO THE DECATHLON AT THE MISSOURI VALLEY CHAMPIONSHIP, WE HAD HIM DO THE HURDLES AND THE TRIPLE JUMP AND THE LONG JUMP AND THE POLE VAULT AND THE OPEN HIGH JUMP AND THE JAVELIN SIX EVENTS >> Will: SO HE'S ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE TEAM SCORE ALL OVER THE YARD >> JUST UNBELIEVABLE, JUST INCREDIBLE

THAT'S KIND OF UNUSUAL ON THE MEN'S SIDE, HE'S SIMPLY SO GOOD HE'S ABLE TO DO THAT ON THE MEN'S SIDE, AS YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE GUYS, WELL, AUSTIN BAHNER WON THE LONG JUMP IN OUR CONFERENCE A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND IN ADDITION HE'D DO THE MULTI EVENTS CHRIS DICKMAN DO WOULD REAL WELL ON THE POLE VAULT AND THE MULTI EVENTS BUT ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE, THOSE GIRLS CAN ALWAYS CONTRIBUTE IN SOME OTHER EVENTS SO IT'S A GREAT WAY TO — IT CAN BE A GREAT CORE TO BUILD YOUR TEAM AROUND

>> Cooper: WE TALKED ABOUT THE SCORING THE MEET, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT YOUR EMPHASIS ON CONFERENCE PERFORMANCE AND HOW WELL THE TEAM DOES IN THE CONFERENCE TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT >> WELL, AND IT'S AN INTERESTING — YOU KNOW, IT'S A PROBLEM WITH TRACK AND FIELD IS THAT — IS THAT THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS PHILOSOPHICALLY TO APPROACH BUILDING A TRACK AND FIELD TEAM SOME TEAMS WANT TO BUILD FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS SOME TEAMS — BUT GUESS WHAT? A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM IS DIFFERENT THAN A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM

A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM IS ABOUT DEPTH AND BALANCE, SO IT'S A BIG ROSTER, IT'S ATHLETES IN ALL THE EVENTS, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO COVER ALL THE EVENTS IN ORDER TO COMPETE EFFECTIVELY EVENT AFTER EVENT AFTER EVENT AT A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP IN A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP YOU WANT TO TAKE THE EVENTS AND TRACK AND FIELD AND LIST THEM DOWN THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE AND THE TEAMS IN THE CONFERENCE AND LIST THEM ACROSS THE PAGE, AND UNDERNEATH YOUR TEAM, WICHITA STATE, WE WANT POINTS IN EVERY EVENT WELL, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN BUILDING A NATIONAL TEAM A NATIONAL TEAM YOU'VE GOT TO GET A FEW STUDS THAT CAN, FIRST OF ALL, QUALIFY FOR THE NATIONALS, THAT'S NOT EASY, AND THEN GET IN THE TOP 8, THAT'S EVEN LESS EASY IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO BUILT THAT TYPE — BUILD THAT TYPE OF A TEAM

>> Will: YOU TALK ABOUT WANTING TO COMPETE FOR THE CONFERENCE, USUALLY IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN THE NBC, NOW IT'S THE AAC, IT'S THE HOT TOPIC AROUND HERE, FANS ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT INTERMITTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE BROADCAST, WHAT IS YOUR PHILOSOPHY AND YOUR APPROACH? >> THE MISSOURI VALLEY WAS A G OOD TRACK AND FIELD CONFERENCE, A VERY, VERY GOOD TRACK AND FIELD CONFERENCE I WOULD HAVE TO SAY PROBABLY THE AAC IS A LITTLE BIT OF A STEP UP IT'S A STEP UP IT'S SOME EVENTS, IT'S A STEP UP AND SOME STEPS IT'S NOT I'D SAY IN 2/3 OF THE EVENTS IT'S A STEP UP, AND MAYBE 1/3 OF THE EVENTS IT'S NOT

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE EFFECTIVELY IN THE AAC GOING FORWARD I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT, I THINK IT'S A GREAT LEAGUE, AND I THINK IT'S A BUNCH OF GOOD COACHES, SOME REALLY FINE COACHES, LIKE DOWN AT HOUSTON IS KARL LEWIS >> Cooper: I'VE HEARD THAT NAME >> KARL LEWIS AND LEROY BRILL PEOPLE HAVE HEARD OF KARL LEWIS, HE'S AN ASSISTANT — LEROY BRILL

HEAD COACH, LEROY BRILL AS ONE OF HIS OPPONENTS, HE WAS A WORLD RECORD DURING THE TIME KARL WAS RUNNING, LEROY FOR A SHORT TIME HELD THE WORLD RECORD THESE TWO GUYS WERE TWO OF THE GREATEST SPRINTERS IN HISTORY AND COACHING TOGETHER IN HOUSTON >> COACH, FORGET ABOUT CONFERENCE, FORGET OTHER TEAMS HERE IN SCORING SCENE OTHER THINGS, I WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT, SO I COMPETED FIVE YEARS AGO, I STARTED COMPETING TEN YEARS AGO FOR YOU, THE LEVEL OF ATHLETE IN THE EVOLUTION OF WHAT YOU WERE ABLE TO RECRUIT BACK THEN VERSUS NOW, BASICALLY I'M ASKING YOU IF THE TEAM TODAY COMPETED WITH MY TEAM, WHO WOULD WIN? >> YOU KNOW, THAT'S SO HARD TO HE WILL IT, SO HARD TO TELL WITH OR WITHOUT COOPER ON THE TEAM, SO THERE'S TWO GUYS THAT JENNY'S GETTING READY TO INTERVIEW HERE IN A FEW MINUTES, JARED AND RAY VAUGHAN ALLEN, AND THOSE TWO GUYS ARE STARS IN THE LONG JUMP AND TRIPLE JUMP NOW HUNTER VEITH, HIS LONG JUMP FURTHERED MORE THAN ANY ONE OF THEM HIS LONG JUMP WAS 26 FEET, WE DIDN'T HAVE 26-FOOTERS ON THE TEAM YOU WERE ON, WE HAD GOOD ONE TYLER SIMMONS WAS A HECK OF A LONG JUMPERN, 25-6

YOU WERE ON GREAT TEAMS >> Will: YOU WEREN'T GOOD ON THE TEAM >> NO, HE WAS GOOD, MAN, THIS GUY GOT IT DONE EVERY TIME IN CONFERENCE >> Will: COACH ALLUDED TO IT, LET'S NOW BRING IN JENNY PINKSTON, JENNY, WHO HAVE YOU GOT? >> Jenny: (TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES) >> Will: ALL RIGHT, SO JENNY IS NOW OUTSIDE IN THE SNOW STORM, IT LOOKS LIKE, OUT IN THE HURRICANE, DOING WEATHER FOR IT

I THINK WHEN SHE'S READY, IS SHE READY? IS JENNY READY? >> Jenny: ALL RIGHT >> Will: THERE SHE IS! >> Jenny: WITH ME I HAVE JERRY BILARDO, WHO IS A JUNIOR FROM KANSAS, AND RAY VAUGHAN WHO IS A FRESHMAN JERRY IS A 5-TIME CHAMPION IN THE JUMP AND NUMBER ONE ALL-TIME LIST FOR LONG JUMP WHAT WAS IT LIKE TRAINING WITH JERRY? >> HE'S THE BEST, I WANTED TO WORK WITH THE BEST, SO I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT >> Jenny: YOU'RE A FRESHMAN, SO YOU MADE THE TRANSITION BETWEEN HIGH SCHOOL AND TRAINING AND COMPETING AS A COLLEGIATE ATHLETE, HOW WAS THAT LIKE AND IS THERE ANY CHALLENGES YOU FACED? >> EVERYTHING'S GOING GREAT RIGHT NOW, MY KNEE'S BEEN BOTHERING ME FOR A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I HAVE TO GET USED TO THE COLLEGE TRAINING BUT EVERYTHING IS GOOD NOW, SO I'M READY TO WORK

>> Jenny: AND JARED, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, AT THE INTERSQUAD MEET YOU DID A SHORT APPROACH FOR BOTH LONG JUMP AND TRIPLE JUMP, WHAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND YOUR SHORT APPROACH JUMP >> I HAD HAM STRANGLE INJURIES, I RECORD SINCE THEN, BUT ME AND RAYVON HALF APPROACH JUMPS, JUST TO KEEP THINGS FAIR, I GUESS >> Jenny: YOU GUYS DID NOT COMPETE TODAY, YOU'RE GOING TO COMPETE ON SATURDAY, WHAT EVENTS ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING? >> LONG AND TRIPLE JUMP >> LONG AND TRIPLE JUMP >> WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE OUT OF THE TWO? >> THE ONE I'M BETTER AT AT THE ENDS OF THE DAY

>> I LIKE TRIPLE JUMP >> AND YOU GOO I SAY HAVE ANY CAREER GOALS AND EXPECTATIONS FOR THE SEASON? >> I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ONE AND TWO AT CONFERENCE AT THE AMERICAN — FIRST YEAR OF THE AMERICAN, BOTH OF US >> YEP, THAT'S A GOAL >> LONG AND TRIPLE JUMP >> LONG AND TRIPLE JUMP, AWESOME

THANK YOU FOR TALKING WITH US, WE'LL SEE YOU DO ON SATURDAY >> Will: YOU HEAR, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE FIRST AND SECOND AT THE AMERICAN, NO PRESSURE, COACH >> THOSE GUYS ARE GOOD ATHLETES, MAN, AND WE'LL HAVE HUNTER IN THE LONG JUMP, WE'LL HAVE THREE REALLY, REALLY >> ENTRIES WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE IN THE CONFERENCE, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION EARLIER, WE'VE GOT A NICE TEAM THIS YEAR, EVENT BY EVENT BY EVENT

HOUSTON IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE FAVOR BECAUSE OF THEIR MARVELOUS SPRINTERS, BUT WE CAN — MAN, WE'VE GOT GOOD ATHLETES IN ALL THE EVENTS >> Cooper: HE WILL WITH, WE TALK ABOUT RECRUITING CLASS, AND THE TEAM THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP OVER YOUR — HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE? >> EIGHTEENTH YEAR >> Cooper: 18 YEARS NOW, SO I HAVE SEEN ATHLETES IN AND THE QUALITY OF ATHLETES IMPROVE, BUT ALSO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CULTURE THAT YOU AND YOUR COACHING STAFF HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE AND THE LEVEL OF TRAINING OR JUST THE INTANGIBLE THINGS OF THE FAMILY-LIKE ATMOSPHERE >> WELL, I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING THAT IS REALLY CRITICAL, I'M REALLY FORTUNATE THAT THE SHORTEST PERIOD OF TIME THAT ANY COACHING STAFF MEMBER HAS BEEN COACHING AT WICHITA STATE ON YOUR STAFF, I BELIEVE, IS 10 YEARS NOW AND IT'S COOK HUNTER, HE'SING ABOUT HERE TEN YEARS — HE'S BEEN HERE TEN YEARS

AND PAT WILSON, AND THEN COACH WISE ARE AT LIKE 11 OR 12 YEARS, AND THEN THERE'S HEIDE HEIDE YOST HAS BEEN HERE FOR ONE YEAR LONGER THAN ME NOW, SHE WAS AN ATHLETE ON THE TEAM, SHE WAS A FRESHMAN THE YEAR BEFORE I CAME AND THEN SHE WAS A SOPHOMORE WHEN I GOT HERE, AND SO SHE WAS AN ATHLETE ON THE TEAM, THEN SHE WAS A VOLUNTEER ASSISTANT, AND THEY BE SHE WAS A GRADUATE –' THEN SHE WAS A GRADUATE ASSISTANT AND NOW BEEN A FULL-TIME ASSISTANT FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS OR SOMETHING >> Cooper: HOW IS THAT ATTRACTIVE TO AN ATHLETE? >> OKAY, THE REASON I MENTION THE STABILITY OF OUR STAFF IS BECAUSE IT CREATES A CULTURE, IT CREATES AN ATMOSPHERE WE WORK WELL TOGETHER

AND IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT I WILL GET UPTIGHT WITH OUR STAFF ABOUT IS IF THERE'S DISHARM ANY AND I WANT THAT TO SPREAD TO THE ENTIRE TEAM, I WANT THERE TO BE HARMONY, I WANT ATHLETES WORKING TOGETHER, IF THERE'S DRAMA, KEEP IT CAN TO YOURSELF, DON'T BRING IT TO THE TRACK >> Will: HOW DIFFICULT IS THAT WITH COLLEGIATE ATHLETES? >> WELL, LIKE I SAY — >> Will: LAT OF IT, TOO >> WE'VE GOT 130 ATHLETES ON OUR TEAM, I TELL YOU WHAT, I FEEL LIKE WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF KEEPING THE DRAMA AT A MINIMUM IS THAT TO SAY THERE'S NO DRAMA? HECK NO, THERE'S DRAMA EVERYWHERE IN AMERICA, BUT I'M TELLING YOU THAT OUR TEAM GETS ALONG PRETTY DARN WELL, AND I APPRECIATE IT, AND I VIRTUALLY DEMAND IT

WE'RE NOT GOING IT PUT UP WITH A LOT OF DRAMA SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION I WILL TELL YOU THAT AS FAR AS DEVELOPING A CULTURE FOR WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS AND — YOU KNOW, TEAM COMPETITIVENESS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON FROM THE VERY START FIRST COMING HERE WE WANT TO ALWAYS BE SUGGESTING THAT THE ATHLETES ARE BECOMING STUDENTS OF THE CONFERENCE, HEY, GUYS, WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE FOR US TO WIN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO WIN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP? AND WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE BACK IN 2003, THERE WAS A GUY ON THE TEAM WHO WAS NORTH OF 300 POUNDS NAMED BRAD JOHNSON, BIG POWERFUL SHOT PUTTER, DISCUS THROWER, AND HE CAME TO ME AND SAID, COACH, I'LL TRYING TO SCORE OUT THE CONFERENCE MEET, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE 10,000 METERS IS GOING TO GO, CAN YOU HELP ME, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT THAT MANY ENTRIES ON THE CONFERENCE LIST AND I THOUGHT, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

WE ARE GETTING THESE GUYS TO BEGIN LOOKING A THE WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT A BIG 300-POUNDER TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE 10-K GUYS, YOU KNOW THAT GUYS ARE BEGINNING TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON YOUR TEAM >> Cooper: WELL, AND YOU NOTICE — IF I'M AN ATHLETE COMING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND OF THE RECRUITS THAT I'VE TALKED TO OF THE EXISTING ATHLETES, THE ATHLETES THAT I WAS ON THE TEAM WITH, IF THEY — IF THEY ARE IN HIGH DEMAND, THEN THEY'VE GONE AROUND — SEE, I WASN'T IN HIGH DEMAND, BUT IF THEY WERE IN HIGH DEMAND AND THEY'RE GOING AROUND TO KU OR K-STATE AND I'M NOT TALKING TO THESE PROGRAMS AT ALL, BUT WHAT THEY NOTICE IS THE DIFFERENCE OUT OF WICHITA STATE IS THERE'S MORE OF A FAMILY-LIKE ATMOSPHERE, AND THAT'S ATTRACTIVE TO AN ATHLETE, TO A LOT OF ATHLETES

YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT BE THE BEST TEAM IN THE NATION, HECK, THERE I SAID IT, YOU MAY NOT BE THE BEST COACHING STAFF IN THE NATION, BUT THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU GET HERE AS AN ATHLETE IS GOING TO BE PRICELESS IN THE LONG RUN AND I THINK THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE JOB THAT YOU'VE DONE SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE, AND THE ABILITY THAT YOU'VE HAD TO BUILD A STAFF THAT STICKS WITH YOU AND SUPPORTS YOU AND IS ALL WORKING WELL TOGETHER SO — >> WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITHOUT QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CAME HERE I ESTABLISHED A MISSION STATEMENT AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WAS THAT I WANT TO GIVE YOUNG PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CARRY OUT THEIR ATHLETIC DREAMS WITH WICHITA STATE ACROSS THEIR CHEST AND I — I LOVE THIS STUFF, MAN, I LOVE THE PURSUIT OF ATHLETIC EXCELLENCE, TRACK AND FIELD EXCELLENCE

AND WHEN THE ATHLETES CATCH THAT, YOU KNOW, VIBE OR THAT SPIRIT, IT REALLY BECOMES A MEANINGFUL AND ENJOYABLE PART OF THEIR COLLEGIATE ATHLETIC EXPERIENCE >> Will: HOW HAS RECRUITING CHANGED NOW THAT YOU HAVE ENTERED THE AMERICAN? >> SO THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION BECAUSE, MAN, WE ARE RIGHT IN THE MIDST OF IT WE ARE TRYING TO NAVIGATE OUR WAY THROUGH, FIGURING OUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO ATTACK THIS AND IT'S — FIRST OF ALL, WE GRADUATED AN UNBELIEVABLE GROUP OF SENIOR WOMEN LAST YEAR, I MEAN, A SPECTACULAR GROUP OF SENIOR WOMEN

AND SO ALL OF THE SUDDEN OUR WOMEN'S TEAM IS IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE REBUILDING AND SO WHAT'S REBUILDING? RECRUITING AND DEVELOPING ATHLETES AND AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE TRYING TO WRAP OUR BRAINS AROUND COMPETING IN A NEW CONFERENCE AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE GREAT ANSWERS FOR THAT >> Will: HAVE YOU SEEN OTHERS DOORS PERHAPS OPEN IN MAYBE DIFFERENT QUADRANTS IN THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU COULDN'T HAVE BEEN BEFORE? LIKE PHILADELPHIA OR HOUSTON? >> MAYBE SO, MAYBE SO

BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NATIONAL NEWS TO THE TRACK AND FIELD KIDS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY THAT WICHITA STATE JOINED THE AMERICAN CONFERENCE BUT I DO THINK IT'S NATIONAL NEWS THAT WICHITA STATE MEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM IS RANKED IN THE TOP 10 >> Will: EVERYWHERE ELSE I WORKED, SO MANY SCHOOLS — NO MATTER WHAT SCHOOL YOU ARE, YOU USE FOOTBALL AS ONE OF YOUR MAJOR RECRUITS YOU DON'T HAVE FOOTBALL HERE WHAT ROLE DOES BASKETBALL PLAY, WHEN YOU SAY COCA COKE KOCH ARENA, THIS TYPE OF SUCCESS THEY'VE HAD? >> THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT YOUNG PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE MORE AWARE GENERALLY, MORE AWARE GENERALLY OF WICHITA STATE BECAUSE OF OUR MEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM THAN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, BEFORE REALLY I'M GOING TO SAY BEFORE MARK TURGEON, OBVIOUSLY BEFORE GREG MARSHALL CAME, BUT MARK TOOK OUR TEAM TO THE SWEET 16

AND I SHOULDN'T EVEN SAY BEFORE MARK TURGEON, BECAUSE YEARS AND YEARS AGO — >> Will: BUT THOSE KIDS HAVE NO IDEA, EXACTLY THEY THINK LEBRON JAMES IS BETTER THAN MICHAEL JORDAN, FOR GOD SAKES THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT PLAYS A HUGE ROLE, TO TAKE AWAY THAT OPEN DISCUSSION THIS IS WHAT WICHITA STATE IS, THIS IS WHO WE ARE, THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE? >> CERTAINLY IN SOME CASES WE'RE GETTING LETTERS FROM YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU'RE KIND OF THINKING, MAN, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD THAT THIS YOUNG PERSON WROTE ME — WROTE US, AND IN OTHER CASES THEY ARE FULLY AWARE OF US ANOTHER THING THAT HELPED US IS WE HOSTED THE NATIONAL JUNIOR OLYMPICS, THE TRACK AND FIELD JUNIOR OLYMPICS IN 2011

SO THERE WERE KIDS THAT WERE 10 YEARS OLD IN 2011 THAT ARE NOW HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, AND THEY — >> Will: THEY WERE YOUNG >> THEY'RE HERE THEY CAME HERE FOR A NATIONAL JUNIOR OLYMPIC CHAMPIONSHIP AND THEY REMEMBER >> Will: SO HERE WE HAVE SECTION ONE OF THE WOMEN'S 200 METERS, OUT OF THE FIVE RUNSERS WE HAVE ONE UNATTACHED ATHLETE FROM WICHITA STATE, DAYSHA THOMAS, WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THOMAS? >> WELL, SHE'S A GIRL WHO IS DEVELOPING, THAT HAS COME OUT FOR OUR TEAM AND WE'RE PLEASED SHE'S OUT FOR OUR TEAM AND WE'RE TRYING TO — THIS IS HER FIRST RACE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR HOW SHE'S DOING >> Cooper: SHE JUST RAN IN THAT HEAT

>> I WATCHED HER HEAT, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HER TEAM YET >> Will: WE HAVE SARAH HINES >> Cooper: IN THE NEXT HEAT WE HAVE SARAH HINES, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HER, SHE TRANSFERRED HERE FROM EMPORIA STATE AND WAS AP UNER LEVEL DIVISION 2 HERD HE 2 2 HURDLER >> SHE IS RED SHIRTED, WILL HAVE TWO YEARS REMAINING >> Will: ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE WHEN YOU'RE IN A REBUILDING YEAR, RED SHIRTING SO MANY OF YOUR ATHLETES

>> THAT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING PROCESS WE'VE GONE THROUGH, WE PRESENTED TO THE SEEM, YOU KNOW, OKAY, GIRLS, OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO BUILD FOR THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BUILD A FOUNDATION FOR THE FUTURE I'M A GUY WHO IS TRYING TO PUT A POSITIVE OF A SPIN ON EVERY SINGLE THING I POSSIBLY CAN ABOUT A SEPARATION LIKE THIS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS HEY, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, BECAUSE WE'RE SO YOUNG, WE'RE GOOD, WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF GOOD ATHLETES ON ON OUR TEAM, BUT WE'RE YOUNG, EVEN THE SPECTACULAR GROUP THAT WE GRADUATED LAST YEAR WHEN THEY WERE FRESHMEN WOULDN'T HAVE DONE A LOT OF DAMAGE IN A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP WE NEED A YEAR TO DEVELOP WE NEED A YEAR TO GET BETTER, AND WE NEED A YEAR FOR SOME MORE RECRUITING ALSO, SO LET'S RED SHIRT SOME GIRLS, GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO DEVELOP, GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO COMPETE AS UNATTACHED ATHLETES AND BECOME STRONGER, FASTER, BETTER, NCAA DIVISION 1 I TRACK AND FIELD ATHLETES AND GET READY FOR A BIG FUTURE

AND WE'RE — WE'RE BUILDING FOR THE FUTURE AND LOTS OF OUR GIRLS ARE BOUGHT INTO IT I THINK 26 GIRLS WE'RE RED SHIRTING SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WE LOOKED AT IT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO FINISH MUCH LOWER IN THE AMERICAN CONFERENCE AS A WOMEN'S TEAM THAN WE WOULD HAVE IF WE HADN'T RED SHIRTED THESE GIRLS >> Will: IT'S A NO-BRAINER FROM A COACHING STANDPOINT

>> FROM A COACHING STANDPOINT, BUT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT, IT'S GOING TO THEY OUR TEAM IN THE COMING YEARS >> Will: SARAH HAYNES IS IN LANE 5 DO YOU HAVE A TIME YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HER HIT HERE, SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HER ACCOMPLISH? >> I TELL YOU WHAT, THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU — IT LOOKS TO ME SHE'S RUNNING WELL BUT INDOOR TRACK IS SO ODD LET'S SAY SARAH CAN RUN ABOUT 25 FLAT IN THE 200 METERS

ON AN INDOOR TRACK IN THE SEASON OPENER IT WOULD BE SOLID FOR HER TO RUN 265 265 IS NOT GOING TO BE A PARTICULARLY IMPRESSIVE TIME, BUT I'M WATCHING HER RUN AND I'M IMPRESSED HOW SHE'S DOING THERE BUT I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT WAS ABOUT, LIKE I SAID, ABOUT 26 1/2 — >> Will: YOU'VE DONE THIS BEFORE

>> AND YET, I THINK SARAH IS 25 FLAT GIRL HE WHEN I SAY 25 FLAT, THAT MIGHT BE AN OUTDOOR TIME, THERE'S A MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDOORS AND OUTDOORS THESE TIGHT 200M TRACKS COMPARED TO AN OUTDOOR 400M TRACK WITH BIGGER, WIDER TURNS THAT ARE MUCH EASIER TO NAVIGATE >> Will: NOW WE HAVE SECTION 3 COMING OUT, OUT OF WICHITA STATE, WE HAVE ONE SHOCKER COMPETING, ANOTHER FRESHMAN, ABBI BIRD WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT MISS BIRD? >> SHE'S A HEPTATHOLN GIRL, AND SHE'S TRYING TO LEARN THE EVENTS

SHE TRUCKED TODAY IN THE HURDLES THE HURDLES SEEMED TO BE A REAL MASSIVE CHALLENGE FOR HER, BUT SHE'S A GOOD HIGH JUMPER AND I THINK — AND SHE SAID HURT EAR LAST YEAR, SO SHE'S A FRESHMAN LIKE YOU SAID, BUT SHE'S A SECOND YEAR FRESHMAN, A RED SHIRT FRESHMAN, >> Will: BUT SHE IS COMPETING TODAY, SHE'S NOT UNATTACHED SHE >> YEAH SO 200, THIS IS FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES WHAT YOU COULD REFER TO AS A GLORIFIED TRAINING EXERCISE

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? >> RIGHT >> THIS IS SOME SPEED WORK THIS IS SOME RUNNING TRAINING FOR HER TO TRY TO DEVELOP ATHLETICALLY >> SO, BOLT, YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR MIND-SET ON THE FUTURE OF THE WOMEN'S SIDE OF THINGS WE KNOW THAT THE MEN WILL BE PRETTY STRONG

BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT, YOUR MIND-SET INTO DEVELOPING AN ATHLETE FROM A FRESHMAN, FROM A HIGH SCHOOL RECRUIT TO THE ALL-AMERICAN DECATH LEAST, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF ALL-AMERICANS THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR WALL IN THE TRACK TEAM ROOM WHO WERE WALK-ONS IS KIND OF REMARKABLE CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOU'VE SEEN ATHLETES DEVELOP WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING IN HIGH SCHOOL? >> YEAH IT'S A FUN SUBJECT TO TALK ABOUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, CHRIS DICKMAN WAS TEAMMATES WITH YOU AND THAT GUY COMES TO WICHITA STATE ON AN ENGINEERING SCHOLARSHIP, WAS IN FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES VIRTUALLY UNRECRUITED AS A HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETE

AND WHEN I SAY FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY BESIDES SOME JUCOS WOULD HAVE EVEN SENT HIM A LETTER AND HE STICKS HIS HEAD — BUT HE CAME HERE ON AN ACADEMIC SCHOLARSHIP AND HE STICKS HIS HEAD IN MY OFFICE AND SAYS I WAS WONDERING IF I COULD COME OUT TO THE TRACK TEAM AND I SAID, WELL, IF YOU — HAVE YOU EVER DONE TRACK AND FIELD? YOU KNOW YEAH I RAN HIGH SCHOOL TRACK

AND HE TELLS ME THE THINGS THAT HE DID AND THE THINGS THAT HE DID WERE NOT IMPRESSIVE, AT ALL! AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE COULD TRY THE DECATHLON THE GUY ENDS UP GETTING LEGITIMATELY VERY FAST HE POLE VAULTED 16 POWERBALL 9 HE NEVER POLE VATTED IN HIGH SCHOOL

HE RAN I THINK — HE NEVER BROKE 23 SECONDS IN HIGH SCHOOL HERE'S THE SITUATION IN TRACK AND FIELD AND IT'S DIFFERENT THAN LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS WITH OUR WOMEN'S TENNIS COACH THERE'S — IN TRACK AND FIELD, AGE OF 23 OR 22, AN — 22 OR 23 AN ATHLETE IS GOING TO DEVELOP THERE'S ATHLETICISM

THERE'S ATHLETIC MATURITY DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND IT'S JUST THE FACT OF LIFE THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS THEY'RE GOING TO GET BETTER IF THEY DO THE RIGHT THINGS

AND IF THEY'RE REASONABLY WELL COACHED AND SO ANYHOW, I — CHRIS ENDED UP SEVENTH IN THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP IN THE INDOOR HELP DATE LONG IN THE GREATEST — HEPTATHALON IN THE NCAA WORLD RECORD >> NOT BAD >> AND SO IT WAS A REMARKABLE STORY OF IMPROVEMENT

YOU KNOW DESIREE OSBORN, WERE YOU TEAM MATES WITH DESIREE OSBORN? >> SHE WAS BEFORE ME >> JUST BEFORE YOU SHE WOULD HAVE FINISHED NOT MUCH BEFORE YOU >> RIGHT

>> HER IMPROVEMENT, WITHOUT GETTING TOO DETAILED, WAS JUST UNBELIEVABLE, FROM TRULY A WALK-ON LEVEL ATHLETE TO GET FOURTH IN THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS IN THE 5,000 METERS HOW DO YOU PREDICT THOSE THINGS? YOU CAN'T PREDICT THEM >> RIGHT >> THERE'S NO PREDICTING AND SO WHO WE DO IS WE RECRUIT A LARGE ROSTER, WITH LOTS OF ATHLETES AND SOME OF THEM PAN OUT THAT WAY

>> STEVE RAINBOLT IS JOINING US HERE WHAT CAN WE EXPECT FROM HERE IN LANE 5 IN THIS RACE? >> WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HER SHE'S AN OUTSTANDING YOUNG SPRINTER FROM OKLAHOMA SHE'S RUNNING UNATTACHED WE'RE STILL SORTING THROUGH WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO, WELL, WHETHER OR NOT SHE'S GOING TO RED-SHIRT OR NOT

SHE KIND OF WANTS TO COMPETE IN UNIFORM AND WE'RE PROMOTING THE RED SHIRT CONCEPT >> SO WHAT YEAR IS SHE? >> TRUE FRESHMAN >> SO WHAT'S HER — I MEAN WITHOUT GETTING TOO MUCH INTO DETAIL WITH HER BUSINESS, BUT WHAT'S THE ARGUMENT FOR HER TO WANTING TO COMPETE — >> I TELL YOU WHAT IT IS, SHE'S JUST EXCITED ABOUT COLLEGE TRACK SHE JUST WANTS TO COMPETE >> ALL THIS TIME BEEN BUILDING UP TO BEING AT WICHITA STATE

>> SHE'S DONE VERY WELL HERE, TOO >> YEAH SHE'S WINNING THIS HEAT SHE'S A GOOD ATHLETE >> NO WONDER SHE WANTS TO COMPETE

IT'S BEEN TAILLIGHTS EVER SINCE WE STARTED [ LAUGHTER ] GREAT RUN FROM HER >> SO SHE RAN A FAST TIME THERE I THINK THAT WAS A PRETTY FAST TIME >> WHERE IS SHE OUT OF? >> OUT OF OKLAHOMA

>> OKLAHOMA GIRL >> AND WE WERE — WE HAD A MAJOR CELEBRATION OVER THERE IN THE TRACK OFFICE WHEN SHE COMMITTED TO WICHITA STATE THAT WAS A CELEBRATION >> THAT'S YOUR FOUR-STAR, FIVE-STAR RECRUIT RIGHT THERE? >> SHE'S A GOOD ONE [ LAUGHTER ] >> THAT'S FANTASTIC

>> I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING THIS THIS IS TERRIFIC HAVING OUR MEET TELEVISED AND TWO MAJOR PROS, YOU KNOW, WORKING THE CAMERAS DOING THE BROADCAST [ LAUGHTER ] >> WORKING THE CAMERAS THOSE ARE THE PROS

THIS HAS BEEN A BLAST, I TELL YOU >> WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE JUST SHOWED UP AND THERE WERE MICROPHONES WE STARTED TALKING AND MAKING UP FACTS ABOUT TRACK AND FIELD >> THIS IS SPECTACULAR

>> A COUPLE GOOD POLE VAULTERS WITH JENNY OUT THERE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO — ARE WE GOING OUT TO JENNY? ARE YOU READY? HOPEFULLY YOU'RE INSIDE AND WARM >> Jenny: WE'RE READY >> THERE SHE IS WHO YOU GOT THIS TIME? >> Jenny: ALYSSA FRIES FROM BROOKFIELD, MISSOURI

AND HAYDEN FROM ANDALE, KANSAS COMPETED TODAY HOW DID YOU COMPETE TODAY? AND HOW DID YOU FEEL COMPARED TO YOUR MEET AT INTERSQUAD? >> IT WAS GOOD JUST KIND OF GETTING THE REST OFF FROM BREAK KNOWING THAT I HAVE AT LEAST ONE MEET UNDER MY BELT GOING INTO THE TRIANGULAR IS GOOD

JUST SO I CAN GO COMPETE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THERE WITH PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER COMPETITION THERE >> Jenny: PERFECT YOU GUYS ARE BOTH GOING TO COMPETE ON SATURDAY AT THE TRIANGULAR MEET SO HAS THERE BEEN — UP TO THIS POINT, WHAT ARE SOME CAREER HIGHLIGHTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE? >> DEFINITELY LAST YEAR WE WENT TO FIRST ROUNDS THE NCAA TOURNAMENT IN AUSTIN, TEXAS

AND THAT WAS REALLY COOL EXPERIENCE I HOPE TO GO AGAIN THIS YEAR IN SACRAMENTO IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL I'VE NEVER BEEN TO CALIFORNIA SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT

>> Jenny: THAT WOULD BE AWESOME WHAT ABOUT YOU? >> UM, WINNING CONFERENCE LAST YEAR, OUTDOOR THAT WAS PRETTY EXCITING PROBABLY THE TOP THING AND THEN JUST I THINK WINNING MY FIRST MEET AS A COLLEGE ATHLETE MY FRESHMAN YEAR AT K-STATE

THAT WAS FUN GOOD MOMENT ALL THE PRs THROUGHOUT THE SEASONS AND THEN LIKE YOU SAID, GOING TO FIRST ROUNDS IN TEXAS >> Jenny: VERY COOL

OKAY SO TELL ME KIND OF ABOUT THE DYNAMIC OF THE POLE VAULT GROUP I KNOW YOU GUYS WERE JUST ON THE COVER OF A MAGAZINE OR SOMETHING SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? >> IS THIS THE MAGAZINE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> Jenny: OH MY GOSH! [ LAUGHTER ] >> YEAH SO WE HAD ONE OF OUR GIRLS WAS ACTUALLY REALLY SUPERINTERESTED AND HAD CONNECTED OR WHATEVER WITH THE PUBLISHER

RIGHT? AND SO SHE KIND OF GOT US HOOKED UP WITH THAT GIG AND SO WE TOOK OUR PICTURE, SENT IT IN THAT WAS SUPER AWESOME BUT, NO, JUST THE DYNAMIC OF THE TEAM, THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST TEAM I'VE BEEN ON THIS IS MY FOURTH YEAR HERE AND I COULDN'T ASK FOR BETTER TEAMMATES

JUST CRAZY FUNNY PEOPLE, PROBABLY THE MOST SARCASTIC GROUP YOU'LL EVER MEET >> I DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE THE TEAM THIS YEAR IS A LOT MORE FLUID EVERYBODY GETS ALONG AND I THINK THE BIG THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN >> Jenny: VERY COOL AND HAYDEN, I KNOW YOU CAN DO A GOOD IMPERSONATION

LET'S SEE IT >> PAT WILSON COACH PAT WILSON WELL, YOU KNOW, KIDS THESE DAYS, NOT LIKE THEY USED TO BE BACK IN THE DAY WE'D TAKE 50, 60, 70 JUMPS A PRACTICE

THE ONLY REASON WE'D STOP IS BECAUSE THEY SHUT THE LIGHTS OFF IN THE BUILDING I'D GO HOME AND DEER HUNT, WORK ON THE FARM, MAKE SOME MORE COFFEE, YEAH, AND I WOULDN'T LISTEN TO THIS BAD MUSIC THESE KIDS ARE LISTENING TO THESE DAYS I'D PLAY THE DRUMS ALL NIGHT, AC/DC BABY! >> Jenny: ALL RIGHT SO IF YOU KNOW COACH PAT WILSON, THEN HE PRETTY MUCH NAILED IT ALL RIGHT

SO BACK TO YOU, WILL >> Will: THANK YOU, JENNY IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT, COACH? >> WELL, HE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB [ LAUGHTER ] THAT'S PRETTY GOOD >> Will: WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THOSE TWO ATHLETES? >> ALISA FRY WAS OUR CONFERENCE CHAMPION IN THE VAULT LAST SPRING

WHAT AN EXCITING MEET AT THE MISSOURI VALLEY OUTDOOR HAYDEN BUGNER, I THINK HAYDEN JUMPED 156 IN HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN JUMPED 16 FEET RIGHT AWAY WHEN HE GOT HERE AND WENT RIGHT ON UP TO 167 THE GUY HAD JUST GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER AND IS ONE OF THE TOP GUYS IN THE VALLEY LAST YEAR AND HE'LL BE ONE OF THE TOP GUYS IN THE AMERICAN

HE'S A STUDLY GUY, MAN I MEAN HE'S A COMPETITOR, THAT GUY I REALLY LOVE IT WHEN, YOU KNOW, HIS FRESHMAN YEAR HE TAKES SOME PRACTICE JUMPS ON THE DAY BEFORE THE COMPETITION AT THE MISSOURI VALLEY INDOOR, AND ON ONE OF THEM COMES DOWN AWKWARDLY AND VIRTUALLY BREAKS HIS HAND AND WE THINK THAT HE'S NOT EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUMP THE NEXT DAY, AND HE JUST RUBBED SOME DIRT ON IT AND HERE WE GO AND ENDED UP SECOND OR SOMETHING

I MEAN THE GUY IS AN ABSOLUTE STUD >> SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABOUT TO START SECTION 1 OF THE MEN'S 200M AND WE HAVE TWO WICHITA STATE ATHLETES A SOPHOMORE, JACE COPPOC, AND A SENIOR SHOCKER, ISAAC POE >> SO ISAAC IS IS A GOOD 400M HURDLER

>> Cooper: THIS IS HIS FIRST 200 >> YEAH SO LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, THIS — WE'LL PUT GUYS IN THE 200 FOR SOME SPEED WORK, AND THAT WOULD — ISAAC WOULD CERTAINLY COME UNDER THE HEADING OF A GUY WHO IS DOING THIS JUST FOR SOME SPEED WORK HE'S A 400M HURDLER >> Will: WHAT DO YOU EXPECT OF A GUY THAT'S DOING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME? >> I'M GOING TO GUESS 23

2 WHAT DO YOU THINK, COOPER? >> Cooper: OH, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A LITTLE GENEROUS NOT THAT I DOUBT ISAAC POE I JUST KNOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME IN THE SEASON, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE — >> YOU GOT THE BENEFIT OF WATCHING JUST ABOUT THE WHOLE RACE! [ LAUGHTER ] WHAT A BOLD PREDICTION! >> Cooper: YEAH HE WAS RIGHT AT ABOUT 23 I THINK

SO YOU WERE CLOSER >> YOU DRAGGED THAT ONE OUT >> Cooper: I DID >> IF I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT, I DON'T KNOW >> Cooper: SO ISAAC, HIS FIRST 200M RACE OF HIS COLLEGIATE CAREER, RIGHT? >> OH, IT IS? WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT

>> Cooper: THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD SO A 400M HURDLER AND IN THIS NEXT RACE WE HAVE AUSTIN CORLEY HIS FIRST EVER 200M RACE I'M SURE THEY HAVE A BET GOING IN THAT BUT TELL ME ABOUT A 400M HURDLER THAT'S AN OUTDOOR EVENT, WHY ARE YOU DOING THE 200 NOW AND NOT THE 400? WHY NOT THE 600? >> WELL, PART OF THE REASON IS BECAUSE LIKE AUSTIN AND — AUSTIN WILL RUN A LONGER RACE AT K-STATE ON SATURDAY

SO — >> Cooper: OKAY >> IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THESE GUYS ARE COMING BACK ON SATURDAY FOR LONGER RACES SO A LITTLE BIT OF A TUNE-UP A LITTLE BIT OF A SPEED WORK TUNE-UP IN PREPARATION FOR SATURDAY'S RACE YOU'RE RIGHT

I MEAN THESE GUYS NEED TO RUN LONG, STRONG RACES, INDOORS, IN ORDER TO PREPARE FOR THE 400-METER HURDLES OUTDOORS IN FACT, THE 800 IS A TERRIFIC — THE 800 IS A TERRIFIC PREPARATION FOR THE INDOOR — YOU KNOW, FOR THE OUTDOOR 400 HURDLES HOW MANY 800S DID WE HAVE YOU RUN? [ LAUGHTER ] >> Cooper: I DIDN'T DO ONE I DID THE 600 TWICE PROBABLY >> AND HOW DID YOU LIKE THAT RACE? >> Cooper: I HID

I TRIED TO HIDE >> THAT'S A TOUGH RACE >> Cooper: YEAH, YEAH >> I WOULDN'T HAVE COME OUT OF THE BATHROOM I'M GOOD

>> Will: BUT COACH, EARLIER TODAY, I KIND OF LIKENED THIS MEET, THE PRELUDE, WITH SPRING TRAINING IN BASEBALL IS HOW I CORRELATE IT AS A PITCHER, YOU'D HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND WORK ON CERTAIN THINGS YOU CAN'T JUST BLOW IT ALL OUT AND GET OUT, SAY HEY, I HAD A PERFECT INNING THEREFORE IT WAS A GOOD OUTING YOU HAVE TO GO OUT THERE, HIT SPOTS AS A PITCHER, WORK ON CERTAIN PITCHES HERE, COOPER WAS TELLING ME COACHES WANT TO KIND OF REIN IN SOME OF THE ATHLETES

YOU DON'T BLOW IT ALL OUT HERE AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS YOU WANT TO WORK ON SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT THAT? >> OH YEAH YOU MIGHT BE WORKING ON YOUR EXCEL RATION PHASE YOU MIGHT BE WORKING ON THINGS THAT YOU AND THE COACH HAVE DISCUSSED LEADING UP TO THE RACE THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, THAT NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON

>> Will: AND I CAN REMEMBER AS AN ATHLETE, THAT WAS A DARNED NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL ME TO SLOW IT DOWN AND THAT'S NOT RUNNING SO HOW DO YOU GET AN ATHLETE LIKE THIS, A SPRINTER TO NOT JUST RUN AS FAST AS THEY CAN? >> WELL, SO IT'S NOT ABOUT SUGGESTING TO THEM THAT THEY NOT RUN AS FAST AS THEY CAN IT'S ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF BUILDING RELAXATION INTO THEIR RUNNING STRIDE SO, HEY, I WANT TO HELP YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO — HOW TO RACE WITH UPPER LEVEL INTENSITY, RACE WITH EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL INTENSITY, BUT PHYSICAL RELAXATION

AND THAT'S A HARD THING TO DO BUT THE GREATEST SPRINTERS AND THE GREATEST RUNNERS ON THE PLANET ARE RUNNING EXTREMELY RELAXED YOU CAN'T TELL THAT SOMETIMES BECAUSE THE INTENSITY LOOKS SO HIGH BUT THE RELAXATION IS ALSOINGENCE TREATMENTLY — SO YOU'RE TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO RACE THESE DISTANCES CORRECTLY >> Will: THERE'S BEEN A FEW ATHLETES OUT HERE TODAY WE POINTED OUT THAT THEIR BODY IS SO STILL, THEIR HEAD IS STILL AND FACE IS JUST SO CALM, YOU CAN TELL THAT THEY'RE LEADING AND THERE'S A REASON THAT THEY'RE IN FRONT

>> YEAH THEY'VE MASTERED, YOU KNOW, EMOTIONAL INTENSITY, BUT PHYSICAL RELAXATION YOU KNOW, I CAN REMEMBER BEING A HIGH SCHOOL KID, MY HIGH SCHOOL TRACK COACH TELLING ME THAT I NEEDED TO LEARN TO RELAX I THOUGHT RELAX? RELAX TO ME INVOLVES A COUCH AND A REMOTE CONTROL AND SOME LEMONADE AND A TV

AND THAT'S WHAT RELAXATION INVOLVES HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BE SPRINTING? I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT >> IT TOOK ME YEARS TO FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE PLAYING FOOTBALL, YOU WOULD LISTEN TO A CERTAIN KIND OF MUSIC THAT WOULD GET YOU READY TO KILL SOMEONE TO HIT SOMEONE AS HARD AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN THEN IN BASEBALL ON THE MOUND I LISTENED TO RELAXING CLASSICAL MUSIC BEFORE I WENT OUT THERE BECAUSE IF I WAS TOO AMPED UP I FOUND OUT I WOULD BE ALL OVER THE YARD

I WAS THROWING BALLS YOU COULDN'T EVEN FIND BUT IF I CALMED DOWN — >> FIND YOUR SPOT >> Will: I COULD MENTALLYSTONE IN THERE AND BE — ZONE IN THERE AND BE MORE EFFECTIVE >> SO THERE'S CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO HELP ATHLETES WORK ON A DISTANCE COACH MIGHT BE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT FOCUSING ON A CERTAIN PART OF THE RACE, FOCUSING ON A CERTAIN PERIOD OF, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE RACE THAT IN THE PAST MAYBE THEY'VE LOST THEIR FOCUS WHEN THEY GOT TO THE MIDDLE OF THE RACE

ON THIS RACE WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON BEING STRONG AT THIS POINT IN THE RACE SO THERE'S SOMETHING FOR EACH ATHLETE AT THIS TRACK MEET TO FOCUS ON, TO TRY TO WORK ON >> Will: NOW, SATURDAY IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT APPROACH, THE TRIANGULAR AGAINST KANSAS STATE AND KU WHAT ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS GOING INTO THAT? >> SO WE LOVE THIS SITUATION WHERE THERE'S THREE GOOD DIVISION I SCHOOLS IN THE STATE OF KANSAS AND WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A TRIANGULAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PUTS ALL THREE SCHOOLS IN ONE MEET I THINK IT'S GREAT

AND SO IT'S A — ONE MAJOR PART OF IT FOR US IS REHEARSING THE TEAM CONCEPT BECAUSE FIVE WEEKS LATER OR FOUR WEEKS LATER, WHATEVER IT IS, I FIVE WEEKS LATER WE'VE GOT A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP WHERE WE WANT TO GO TO THAT MEET AND COMPETE AS A TEAM SO REHEARSING THE TEAM CONCEPT IS SUPER IMPORTANT COMPETING TOUGH IS SUPER IMPORTANT KU AND K-STATE ARE VERY GOOD TRACK TEAMS IF WE COMPETE IN A UNIQUE MEET AT THIS TRIANGULAR WHERE WE — WHERE WE GENERATE A COMBINED SCORE, MEN AND WOMEN

SO AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, I — WE HAVE RED-SHIRTED A BUNCH OF WOMEN SO OUR WOMEN'S SIDE, WE'RE COMPETING WITHOUT SOME OF OUR TOP ATHLETES SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TEAM SCORE AT THIS MEET AS WE NORMALLY WOULD BUT SOUTHWESTERLY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT — BUT WECERTAINLY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT REHEARSING A TEAM MIND-SET >> Will: WE JUST SAW A GREAT RUN THERE FROM RICHARD SANDEFUR

THE SOPHOMORE FROM WICHITA STATE WE ALSO ARE COMING UP ON SECTION 4 OUT OF 5 FOR THESE 200 METERS LOUIS RIVERS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WE SAW HIM IN THE HURDLES EARLIER TODAY >> HE WAS ONE OF THOSE GUYS WE TALKED ABOUT WHO WAS SO CALM WHEN HE WAS RUNNING

>> Cooper: YEAH AND LOUIS, IS HE A TRANSFER? >> YEAH TRANSFER FROM BARTON COUNTY A JUNIOR COLLEGE TRANSFER >> Cooper: WE TALKED SOME ABOUT THE HURDLES

WE SAW WISE AND YOU TALKING TO HIM AFTER HIS RACE HE'S A SHORTER GUY HOW DOES THAT AFFECT HIM NOT ONLY IN THE HURDLE, BUT ALSO RACES LIKE THIS? >> WELL, SO WE'VE ALL SEEN PLENTY OF GUYS HIS SIZE AND SHAPE RUN GOOD 200s, BUT HE IS A HURDLER AND HE'S DEFINITELY OPERATING AT A SIGNIFICANT DISADVANTAGE IN THE HIGH HURDLES THOSE HIGH HURDLES ARE 42 INCHES HIGH

THAT'S AN UNBELIEVABLY ATHLETIC ACTIVITY YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT BASEBALL AND PITCHING AND HOW BASEBALL GUYS WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT A UNBELIEVABLY ATHLETIC CHALLENGE IT IS TO HIT A BASEBALL AND TO THE POINT THAT MOST BASEBALL GUYS TALK LIKE THAT'S THE TOUGHEST THING THERE IS IN THE WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS >> EVEN IT IS >> IS TO HIT A BASEBALL

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I PUT HIGH HURDLING UP AGAINST THAT BECAUSE HIGH HURDLING IS UNBELIEVABLY DIFFICULT JUST WALK UP TO THAT THING AND THINK ABOUT SPRINTING OVER A 42-INCH HURDLE AND THEN 3 STEPS AND DOING IT AGAIN UNBELIEVABLY ATHLETIC ACTIVITY AND IT JUST ADDS UNBELIEVABLY TO THE DEMANDS OF IT IF YOU'RE SHORT! [ LAUGHTER ] YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND SO HIS STATURE MAKES IT TOUGH FOR HIM BUT HE'S AN ATHLETIC GUY

>> SO HE'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY TALLER AT THIS POINT >> IT WOULDN'T APPEAR >> Will: SO WHAT DO YOU DO TO IMPROVE ON THAT? >> THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH HIM ON THOSE THINGS BUT HE'S PRETTY GOOD AT THEM THE PROBLEM IS THAT — >> WHEN HE WAS RUNNING EARLIER, IT WASN'T FROM A STANDPOINT THAT HE WAS INCAPABLE OF GETTING OVER THEM WITHOUT KNOCKING THEM DOWN

OBVIOUSLY HE HAS THAT CAPABILITY SO WAS HE JUST KNOCKING THEM DOWN BECAUSE HE'S WORKING ON SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR? AND IT WASN'T SO MUCH OF A CONCERN? >> SO COOPER CAN TELL YOU COOPER WAS A HURDLER HURDLERS HIT HURDLES HURDLERS HIT HURDLES

AND THEY WILL SOMETIMES MESS UP THEIR RHYTHM BUT A BIG STRONG GUY LIKE TODD MCKOWN CAN BATTLE THROUGH THAT WITHOUT MUCH DIFFICULTY A SHORTER PERSON IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR THEM TO GET THROWN OFF THEY'RE RHYTHM >> Cooper: OUT WELL IN THE 200 METERS LET'S SEE HOW HE CLOSES ON THESE OTHER ATHLETES ON HIS OUTSIDE

STUMBLE AT THE END FROM LOUIS RIVERS NOW, SO DIFFERENCE IN HEIGHTS DIFFERENCE IN SPEED DIFFERENCE IN EXPERIENCE WE'RE SEEN — WE'VE SEEN SOME ATHLETES EARLIER TODAY IN THE 600 WE HAD A GUY GO INTO LANE 1 OF THE YELLOW

NOT LANE 1 OF THE WHITE AND HE STUMBLED INTO HIS OTHER — >> Will: HE WENT ALL THE WAY — AT LEAST 20 STEPS INSIDE THE CONE >> >> Cooper: AND IT WAS A RACE FULL OF FRESHMEN AND IT WAS PROBABLY THEIR FIRST COLLEGIATE MEET HOW DOES THE INEXPERIENCE PLAY INTO WHEN YOU'RE COMING INTO INDOOR AND THIS IS YOUR FIRST SCORED MEET? >> INDOOR TRACK IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANIMAL FOR SO MANY ATHLETES SO MANY

YOU KNOW ON THE EAST COAST THE HIGH SCHOOLERS WILL — ON THE EAST COAST THE HIGH SCHOOLERS WILL HAVE INDOOR TRACK AND FIELD EXPERIENCE BUT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE UNITED STATES THERE'S NOT A LOT OF INDOOR TRACK AND FIELD EXPERIENCE THERE'S SOME, MAYBE IN OHIO AND MICHIGAN AND SOME PLACES LIKE THAT BUT IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY, A FEW ATHLETES GO TO SOME INDOOR MEETS, BUT NOT VERY MANY SO THEY GET HERE AND IT IS DIFFERENT

THE TIGHT TURNS ARE DIFFERENT WAY DIFFERENT THAN THE OUTDOOR TRACK THE SHORTER RACES IN THE 60 AND THE 60 HURDLES ARE DIFFERENT AND ALL THAT SO THIS INDOOR TRACK AND FIELD IS A WHOLE LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ALL THESE ATHLETES

>> Will: WE'RE ABOUT TO GET READY TO GO WITH SECTION 5 OF THE MEN'S 200M HURDLES HERE — OR 200M NOT THE HURDLES ERICK NGAIZA IS INVOLVED IN THIS RACE >> SO I NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT ERICK NGAIZA THIS GUY CAME OVER HERE FROM AFRICA

I BELIEVE IF I'M CORRECT IT'S TANZANIA AND WALKED ON OUR PROGRAM AND IS IN ENGINEERING AND IS BRILLIANT AND THE OTHER ENGINEERING STUDENTS WILL TELL ME CONSISTENTLY THAT THIS GUY IS JUST BRILLIANT! AT ALL THE ENGINEERING STUFF >> HE SPEAKS SEVEN LANGUAGES

>> YEAH THAT'S RIGHT >> Will: HAS HE EVERY SAID SOMETHING TO YOU IN AT LANGUAGE? >> NO HE HASN'T BUT I HAVE REALLY LOVED HAVING THIS GUY ON OUR TEAM HE'S THE CONSUMMATE TEAM GUY, JUST WANTS TO GET BETTER

IS NOT AN UPPER LEVEL NCAA DIVISION I TRACK MAN, BUT IS A GOOD SPRINTER AND A GUY THAT HAS WORKED HARD RIGHT ALONG WITH MANY ALL-NIGHTERS IN THE ENGINEERING PROGRAM AND SO I ADMIRE ERICK GIDS IMMENSELY >> I DO MUCH MORE NOW BECAUSE I STARTED AS AN ENGINEERING MAJOR I DID NOT FINISH AS AN ENGINEERING MAJOR [ LAUGHTER ] >> Cooper: ERICK IS OUT WELL, TOO

THAT'S A GREAT START FROM HIM ON THE BACK STRETCH HE IS DRAGGING DOWN THE OBU ATHLETE I BELIEVE THAT'S EMPORIA STATE ON THE OUTSIDE HE IS THE TOP SEEDED ATHLETE IN THIS RACE, COMING THROUGH THE LINE IN FRONT >> THATTA WAY, ERICK

>> GOOD RUN >> Will: SO WHAT DOES ERICK BRING TO A TEAM IF HE'S NOT A PREMIER ATHLETE, HE'S NOT THE PREMIER RUNNER ON YOUR ROSTER, HA DOES HE BRING? >> WELL, HE'S BROUGHT SOME LEADERSHIP OBVIOUSLY IN THE AREA OF ACADEMICS, I MEAN I THINK THE ATHLETES ALL LOOK UP TO HIM BUT ALSO HE'S A GUY THAT HAS NOT — HAS NOT HAD UNBELIEVABLE ATHLETIC SUCCESS AND THE OTHER ATHLETES KNOW THAT, AND THEY RECOGNIZE THAT HE'S STILL A GUY THAT COMES TO PRACTICE EVERY DAY READY TO WORK HARD AND READY TO BE FOCUSED AND HE'S JUST BEEN FABULOUS WITH SUCH A TERRIFIC ATTITUDE >> Will: SPEAKING OF FABULOUS AND WITH A TERRIFIC ATTITUDE, LET'S GO OUT TO JENNY PINKSTON WHO IS IN THE PIT OF ALL THE ATHLETES YOU'VE GOT TWO MORE TO COME UP ON YOUR PODIUM, JENNY

WHO YOU GOT? >> Jenny: OKAY SO WITH ME I HAVE REBEKAH TOPHAM FROMA, A JUNIOR AND A MIDDLE DISTANCE SPECIALIST FROM IOWA AND I HAVE ZACH PINROD FROM — ZACH PEN ROD FROM RAYTOWN, MISSOURI, WHO IS A MIDDLE DISTANCE SPECIALIST, WHO IS A JUNIOR REBEKAH ACTUALLY JUST RAN A 100M DASH TODAY AND SHE BROKE THE MEET RECORD HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT THAT? >> REALLY HAPPY WITH IT

GREAT SEASON OPENER I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT'S COMING >> Jenny: ZACK DID NOT COMPETE TODAY BUT HE'S GOING TO COMPETE SATURDAY AT THE TRIANGULAR WHAT EVENTS SATURDAY? >> I'LL JUST BE IN THE OPEN MILE THAT'S ALL I HAVE GOING FOR ME

>> Jenny: YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO BE DOING EVENTS? OH WAIT YOU'RE RED SHIRTING NEVER MIND, OKAY SO BUMMER OKAY SO THE THREE Ks COMING UP, SO WHO IN PARTICULAR ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT WATCHING RUN THIS RACE? >> FOR SURE MY TEAMMATES

WE HAVE KATIE AND SHE HASN'T RACED IN LIKE 15 MONTHS SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW SHE'S GOING TO DO THEN WE HAVE WHITNEY KIBET, SHE JUST JOINED THE TEAM AND THAT'S EXCITING AND SHE'S GOING TO MAKE THEM WALK OUT THERE AND WE ALSO HAVE RITA AND SHE'S AN AWESOME FRESHMAN

SO I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FORWARD TO WATCHING HER RUN >> ON THE MEN'S SIDE FOR SURE PEDRO MONTOYA ABSOLUTE STUD BUT HASN'T RACED IN AWHILE SO INTERESTED TO SEE WHERE HE'S AT SAME THING WITH KILE ANOTHER STUD WE'VE HAD FOR A LONG TIME AND HASN'T RACED

LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE WHAT THEY DO >> Jenny: AWESOME WE JUST JOINED THE AAC HOW IS THE COMPETITION LOOKING LIKE IN THE DISTANCE EVENTS? >> IT'S LOOKING REALLY GOOD IN THE MILE AND 3K TULSA IS A HUGE POWER HOUSE

AND THEN MIDDLE DISTANCE LIKE 800, 400, HOUSTON IS A POWER HOUSE IN THOSE AS WELL >> Jenny: AWESOME SO I KNOW DISTANCE AND SUCH — IS SUCH A MENTALLY GRUELING EVENT IS THERE ANY ADVICE COACH HUNTER GIVE USE THAT HELPS DURING YOUR RACES? >> I WOULD SAY HE JUST SAYS LIKE RELAX, RUN FAST, PRETTY SIMPLE I GUESS BUT YEAH

>> Jenny: YOU GUYS ARE BOTH LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A WIDE RANGE OF EVENTS YOU DO SO WHAT ARE THE EVENTS THAT YOU DO AND WHAT'S YOUR FAITH ONE? >> I DO THE 800, 1500, MILE, 3K, 5K I DON'T KNOW I LIKE THEM ALL BUT I'D HAVE TO SAY MY FAVORITE THE 1500 >> Jenny: WHAT ABOUT YOU, ZACK? >> I MOSTLY STICK TO 800s, 1500s AND MILES AND DEFINITELY THE INDOOR MILE IS MY FAVORITE OUT OF THOSE THREE

>> Jenny: AWESOME SO WHAT ABOUT YOUR SEASON GOALS OR YOUR CAREER GOALS? I KNOW REBEKAH IS RED SHIRTS THIS SEASON HAS THAT AFFECTED YOUR TRAINING AT ALL? >> NOT REALLY STILL TRAINING HARD AND TRYING TO REACH MY GOALS SO I WANT TO GET SOME PRs THIS SEASON, SO HOPEFULLY

>> Jenny: WHAT ABOUT ANY SEASON GOALS FOR YOU, ZACK? >> YEAH JUST RUN FASTER AND WIN MORE WIN AN AMERICAN CONFERENCE TITLE >> Jenny: ALL RIGHT VERY GOOD

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS' TIME AND I'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE HOW YOU RUN YOU HAVE A 4 X 4 COMING UP THAT WILL BE EXCITING THEN YOU ON SATURDAY

BACK TO YOU, WILL >> Will: AWESOME, JENNY THANK YOU SO MUCH IF YOUR COACHING STAFF IS LEAVING IMPRINT RUN FASTER, BE CALM AND BE GOOD

>> YEAH THAT'S GOOD [ LAUGHTER ] >> Will: I KNOW THAT COACH HUNTER'S INPUT IS MORE TECHNICAL THAN WHAT REBEKAH JUST INDICATED BUT, BOY, SHE'S SOMETHING ELSE THOSE TWO ATHLETES ARE SOMETHING ELSE

THEN ARE YOU GUYS AWARE, HAVE YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT JENNY PINKSTON, WHAT A HECK OF AN ATHLETE SHE WAS >> WE OPENED UP THE SHOW WITH HER HOW SMART SHE IS SHE'S MATHEMATICALLY BRILLIANT AND WAS A FIVE-YEAR ATHLETE FOR YOU >> BRILLIANT, UPPER LEVEL ATHLETE WHOSE CAREER WAS JUST DEVASTATED BY INJURIES

YOU KNOW, WE HAD LAST YEAR THAT GREAT GROUP OF SENIORS SHE WAS PART OF THAT GREAT GROUP BUT SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE VERY BEST ONES IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR INJURIES SO I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH — I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT JENNY PINKSTON >> Will: I WISH I COULD SAY THAT ABOUT ME, I WISH

BUT NONETHELESS, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HER ON THIS BROADCAST HERE ON WSUTV AND JOINED BY STEVE RAIN RAINBOLT, THE HEAD COACH OF WICHITA STATE TRACK AND FIELD RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE WOMEN'S 3000 NOW WE'RE IN THE THOUSANDS WE'RE PAST THE HUNDREDS STUFF WE'RE IN THE 3000-METER RUN

THE 3K WE HAVE A COUPLE ATHLETES ATHLETES FROM WICHITA STATE WINNIE KIBET AND RITA SCHNACKER BOTH RUNNING UNATTACHED, THOUGH >> THEY'RE BOTH TWO OF OUR RED SHIRTS

WINNIE IS BRAND-NEW FROM COLBY COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND WAS ONE OF THE BEST JUNIOR COLLEGE RUNNERS IN THE NATION WE'RE SUPER EXCITED THAT WAS ANOTHER MAJOR CELEBRATION WHEN SHE DECIDED TO COME TO WICHITA STATE AND — >> Will: AND YOU'RE RED SHIRTING HER? THAT'S A TOUGH SELL FOR HER COMING FROM JUNIOR COLLEGE? >> WELL, YES AND NO IT'S A LONG STORY

KIND OF HARD TO EXPLAIN >> Will: OH, WE HAVE TIME >> BUT SHE HAS, YOU KNOW, SPLIT SEASONS THERE'S A LOT TO KIND OF — IN OTHER WORDS IF WE RED-SHIRT HER THIS SPRING, THEN SHE WILL HAVE TWO FULL SEASONS OF EVERYTHING STARTING NEXT FALL AND IT WILL WORK OUT BEAUTIFULLY IF YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING

SO THAT'S PART OF THE WHOLE DEAL ON THAT >> Will: SO WHAT'S KEY ABOUT THIS RACE? OBVIOUSLY A MUCH LONGER DISTANCE RACE THAN ANYTHING WE'VE SEEN SO FAR >> WELL, IT'S A MATTER OF FINDING YOUR TEMPO, FINDING YOUR, YOU KNOW, CORRECT PACE AND NOT TAKING IT OUT TOO HARD AND DYING OR NOT TAKING IT OUT TOO SLOW AND NOT BEING ABLE TO CATCH UP I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF STRATEGY IN A RACE LIKE THIS AND IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER IT'S A TACTICAL RACE OR WHETHER IT'S A TIME TRIAL TYPE OF A RACE, AND A SEASON OPENER LIKE THIS, IT'S MOSTLY INDIVIDUAL IN NATURE

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT EACH OF THE ATHLETES IS THINKING ABOUT THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVES WHAT IS THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH FROM THIS RACE >> Will: THIS HAS TO MAKE A COACH SMILE JUST GOT THE RESULTS OF THE MEN'S 200M AND THE TOP FOUR SPOTS ARE ALL SHOCKERS WITH AUSTIN CORLEY, RICHARD SANDEFUR, JACE COPPOC, AND ERICK NAIDZ

ALL TOP FOUR SO YOUR 10, 8, 6, 4 POINTS >> THOSE ARE GOOD THAT'S A UNITED STATES RUN FOR AUSTIN AT — NICE RUN FOR AUTOEN AT 2250

AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ISAAC POE 2337 I MENTIONED 2350, DIDN'T I? >> Cooper: I SAID 23

50 >> I DON'T YOU SAID ANYTHING I THINK YOU JUST RAMBLED FOR ABOUT 30 SECONDS UNTIL WE GOT TO THE FINISH LINE >> YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT I WAS GENEROUS >> I SAID 23

2 AND YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT I WAS GENEROUS >> THERE THEY ARE ON THE SCREEN FOR ALL THE VIEWERS ALL THOSE POINTS ON THE MEN'S SIDE WHICH HELPS OUT THE TEAM RESULTS THEN ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE WE HAD THOSE UPPER SECOND — THOSE UP FOR A SECOND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BRING THOSE BACK UP TO TOUCH ON THOSE

THIS IS THE MIDDLE OF THE 3K RIGHT NOW ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE WE'RE ABOUT 2 MINUTES IN, 10 SECONDS AWAY FROM THAT HAPPENING BUT ARE YOU HOPING OR PRESUMING THAT THE MEN'S SIDE WILL COME OUT ON TOP HERE? HOW DID YOU COME IN AND APPROACH THAT? BRIEFLY HERE'S THE WOMEN'S 200M RESULTS HERE WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS? >> WELL, — WE WEREN'T EVEN REPRESENTED WE HAD OUR ATHLETES UNATTACHED

OBVIOUSLY I LIKE TO SEE — THAT'S A NICE RUN BY TANIYAH AND BY TRUDY THOSE ARE NICE RUNS FOR SEASON OPENER, 200M TRACK TANYA PROBABLY HAS NOT RUN A LOT OF INDOOR TRACK BEFORE SO THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU GO FLYING DOWN THAT BACK STRETCH AND INTO THAT CURVE, IT THROWS YOU FOR A LOOP BECAUSE THAT CURVE IS TIGHT AND YOU'RE FLYING IT

YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STAY ON THE CURVE >> Will: IT SEEMS LIKE A NICE LUXURY TO HAVE, TWO UNATTACHED ATHLETES AT THE TOP OF A LEADER BOARD >> YEAH THAT'S A GOOD GROUP THAT'S TERRIFIC

>> Cooper: SPEAKING OF, WE HAVE OUR TWO TOP UNATTACHED ATHLETES FROM WICHITA STATE IN FRONT HERE IN THE 3K THEY ARE THROUGH LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE THROUGH FIVE LAPS DOWN >> Will: RITA AND WINNIE YEAH I'M ENJOYING THIS

>> Cooper: AND SO TALK ABOUT THE CROSS COUNTRY SEASON, THE DISTANCE RUNNERS SEASON, THEIR LIFE IN THE SUMMER THEY'RE PUTTING IN SAY 50, 60 MILES A WEEK WELL, THEN YOU HAVE CROSS COUNTRY IN THE FALL >> OR 70 OR 80 OR 100 >> Cooper: EXACTLY PROBABLY MORE

>> ON THE MEN'S SIDE >> Cooper: AND THEN YOU GO INTO CROSS COUNTRY SEASON, WHICH IS A DEMANDING SEASON IT'S A GRIND AND THEN YOU COME INTO INDOOR, WHICH STARTS IN JANUARY AND THEN YOU GO INTO OUTDOOR, WHICH STARTS IN MARCH

THEN YOU'RE GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH MAY IF YOU COMPETE IN THE POST-SEASON, IF YOU'RE IN THE NCAAs, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOU IN YOUR NEXT YEAR? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR BODY OVER ALL THAT TIME BEING THAT TYPE OF RUNNER? >> WELL, THE DISTANCE RUNNING, THE QUESTION THAT US COACHES HAVE TO ASK ABOUT A DISTANCE RUNNER, ARE THEY PREPARED TO LIVE THE LIFE? ARE THEY PREPARED TO COMMIT TO THE LIFE OF A DISTANCE RUNNER? IT'S NOT EASY IT IS DEMANDING AND IT IS TOUGH NOW, A LOT OF THOSE ATHLETES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ATHLETES THAT LOVE THE LIFE OF A DISTANCE RUNNER BECAUSE THEY LOVE RUNNING AND ALL THAT

AND SOME OF THEM ARE PROFESSIONAL TRAINERS THEY LOVE TO TRAIN THEN IN ADDITION TO LIVING THE LIFE, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CASH THE PAYCHECK, SO TO SPEAK, AND GO AND COMPETE, BECAUSE COMPETING IS TOUGH, MAN IT'S — THAT'S ANOTHER DEMANDING PART OF THE PROCESS IT'S NOT EASY TO COMPETE EFFECTIVELY

IT'S NOT EASY TO PUT IN THOSE BIG MILES, THOSE SOLITARY MILES BUT IT'S ALSO NOT EASY TO COMPETE EFFECTIVELY UNLESS YOU ARE A TOUGH-MINDED PERSON AND SO I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION >> Cooper: YEAH, NO

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR >> IT'S LIKE I USED TO COACH AT KENT STATE UNIVERSITY AND AT KENT, WE HAD WRESTLING WE DON'T HAVE WRESTLING HERE AT WICHITA STATE I WAS TALKING TO THE WRESTLING COACH AND I TOLD HIM HOW MUCH I ADMIRED SOME OF THE WRESTLERS

I USED TO — BEFORE THAT I COACHED AT NEBRASKA AND I WOULD GO INTO THE WRESTLING ROOM AND I'D SEE THESE WRESTLERS JUST RIPPING WITH — DRIPPING WITH SWEAT AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW HARD THOSE GUYS WORKED AND I'M TALKING TO THE WRESTLING COACH AT KENT STATE ABOUT IT AND HE SAYS, YEAH, I CAN GO TO A WRESTLING MATCH AND I CAN TELL IF THAT KID CAN COMPETE WELL, I CAN TELL IF HE'S GOT GOOD TECHNIQUE, I CAN TELL IF HE'S GOT SOME COMPETITIVE SPIRIT BUT ONE THING I CAN'T TELL AT A WRESTLING MATCH IS WHETHER OR NOT THE GUY IS PREPARED TO SUFFER AND I THOUGHT, HUH, SUFFER >> THAT SOUNDS ENJOYABLE

>> I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT SUFFERING, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN TRACK AND FIELD THAT INVOLVES SUFFERING, YOU KNOW, TRAINING FOR THE DISTANCE EVENTS WOULD BE IT NOW, AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THE DISTANCE RUNNERS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE SUFFERING >> I THINK THEY ENJOY IT THEY'RE A SICK GROUP >> THEY LOVE IT

>> THEY'RE A SICK GROUP OF PEOPLE >> THEY ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT IRING'S SO, COACH, TWO NOTABLE >> Cooper: SO, COACH, TWO NOTABLE SHOCKER ALUMNI WHO ARE RUNNING PROFESSIONALLY NOW TALK ABOUT AL FINE TULIAMUCK AND KELLEN TAYLOR

>> UNBELIEVABLE MAN, WHAT A FABULOUS SUCCESS STORY THOSE TWO GIRLS HAVE HAD YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, ALFIVE — ALPINE HAD SUCH A SPECTACULAR CAREER HERE SO ALIPHINE IS RIDING HOME FROM THE MISSOURI VALLEY INDOOR CHAMPIONSHIP WHERE SHE RAN FOUR RACES AND TWO WEEKS LATER SHE'S BOT THE NCAA INDOOR AND ON THE WAY HOME, SHE LOOKS AT HER FORECAST AND IT'S GOING TO BE ICY THE NEXT MORNING, JUST LIKE IT WAS THIS MORNING HERE IN WICHITA

AND SHE SAYS TO COACH WISE, SHE SAYS WHAT AM I GONNA DO? I'VE GOT A LONG RUN IN THE MORNING! THIS IS THE MORNING AFTER A FOUR RACES AT THE IN OTHER WORDS VALLEY CHAMPIONSHIP — AFTER FOUR RACES AT THE MISSOURI VALLEY CHAMPIONSHIP HE'S LIKE, COME ON, YOU COULD WAIT UNTIL AFTERNOON OR YOU COULD WAIT UNTIL MONDAY OR SOMETHING SHE'S LIKE OH NO, I MUST GET MY RUN IN SO SHE AT ABOUT 7:00 IN THE MORNING, HE GETS A TEXT MESSAGE FROM HER, I DEFEATED THE SNOW, I GOT OFF THE BUS AND I WENT FOR MY RUN

AND SHE RAN AT LIKE 4:00 IN THE MORNING! SHE GOT OFF THE BUS AND BEFORE SHE WENT TO BED, SHE WENT FOR HER LIKE 14-MILL RUN >> THAT'S A DIFFERENT BREED >> YEAH! >> Will: THAT IS A DIFFERENT BREED >> SHE NOW IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THE VERY FINEST DISTANCE RUNNERS ON THE PLANET SHE WAS THE UNITED STATES — SHE WAS THE AMERICAN ROAD RACER OF THE YEAR THIS PAST YEAR

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE AWARD WAS BUT BASICALLY THEY HAD A ROAD RACING SERIES AND SHE GOT ROAD RACER OF THE YEAR SO SHE'S MAKING HER LIVING AND THEN THE SAME THING WITH KELLEN KELLEN JOHNSON-TAYLOR HAS BECOME THE CONSUMMATE PRO

IT'S SO INTERESTING TO TALK WITH HER BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK WITH A COLLEGE ATHLETE, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP THAT'S COMING UP OR THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP OR WANTING TO QUALIFY FOR THE OLYMPIC TRIALS KELLEN HAS BECOME A BUSINESS WOMAN IT'S LIKE SO KELLEN, TELL ME ABOUT YOUR SEASON AND IT'S ALL ABOUT WHERE SHE CAN GO TO MAKE A LIVING, TO MAKE THE MOST MONEY AS A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE IT'S ABOUT THE APPEARANCE FEES

IT'S ABOUT THE WHERE THEY'VE GOT THE BEST PAYOUTS AND WHAT RACES — NOW, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT RACES WILL BUILD HER RÉSUMÉ SO THAT NOW SHE MAKES MORE OF AN APPEARANCE FEE AND I MEAN SHE'S A SMART GIRL IT WAS CLEARLY EVIDENT TO ME THAT SHE IS EXTREMELY SMART AND SHE'S GOT THIS WHOLE PROFESSIONAL RUNNING THING FIGURED OUT, WAY BETTER THAN ME I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT

I'M A COLLEGE TRACK COACH THE >> THAT'S REMARKABLE >> I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT STUFF BUT SHE DOES AND IT'S SUPER IMPRESSIVE >> WHEN IT COMES TO THE POLE VAULT, HIGH JUMP, TRIPLE JUMP, THE SPRINTS, THERE'S A LOT OF TECHNIQUE INVOLVED AND THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR COACHING IS THERE A LOT OF ROOM OR IS THERE ANY ROOM WITH SOME OF THESE DISTANCE RUNNERS? OR IS IT JUST STAYING ON TOP OF THEM AND MAKING SURE THEY GET THEIR WORK DONE AND STUFF LIKE THAT? >> THERE IS A LOT OF COACHING

KIRK MARTIN IS A MARVELOUS COACH THERE'S CERTAINLY TECHNIQUE I CAN WATCH EVERY RUNNER THAT COMES BY AND THINK OF THINGS I WOULD SAY TO THEM ABOUT THEIR RUNNING TECHNIQUE BUT THAT'S NOT AS SIGNIFICANT A WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AS IN THE SHOT PUT OR HIGH JUMP OR POLE VAULT BUT CERTAINLY RUNNING TECHNIQUE IS PART OF THE ISSUE

BUT THEN THERE'S THE ISSUE OF TAPERING THERE'S THE ISSUE OF PEAKING AT JUST THE RIGHT TIME AND THAT TAKES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SCIENCE OF COACHING AND THERE'S THE ART OF COACHING AND IT'S CERTAINLY AN ARTTO BRING ALL OF THESE ATHLETES TO THE RIGHT POINT AT THE RIGHT TIME (BELL RINGING) IN PREPARATION FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP EVENT >> Cooper: COACH, LET ME — >> Will: LAST LAP OF THE WOMEN'S 3000

>> Cooper: NO, GO AHEAD WE HAVE THE TWO UNATTACHED A THLETES FROM WICHITA STATE THAT HAVE PRETTY MUCH LED THE WHOLE TIME, WINNIE OUT IN FRONT AS WELL AS FOLLOWED BY RITA SCHNACKER IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THEY WERE WORKING TOGETHER, WELL, THEY'RE RUNNING TOGETHER, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE WINNIE JUST WANTED TO LEAD THE WHOLE TIME AND SHE'S ABOUT TO FINISH IN THE LEAD AS WELL, CLEARLY SHE'S IN GOOD SHAPE SHE'S READY >> Will: THIS LOOKS LIKE AN EASY RUN FOR WINNIE

UNDERSTAND THAT I JUST WATCHED WINNIE RUN FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME FIRST TIME I'VE EVER WATCHED HER RUN AND IT LOOKED UNBELIEVABLY EASY NOT A SUPER IMPRESSIVE TIME BUT I THINK IT LOOKED SO EASY AND RHYTHMIC THAT SHE DIDN'T PUSH HERSELF EXTREMELY HARD SHE DOESN'T LOOK EXTREMELY TAXED RIGHT THIS MINUTE

IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE SHE JUST CRUISED BASICALLY A NICE SOLID SEASON OPENER 3000-METER RUN THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE TO ME >> YOU WOULD KNOW MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE >> Cooper: WE HAVE ANOTHER WICHITA STATE ATHLETE THAT IS KATIE CUMPSTON LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS ANOTHER LAP TO FINISH THE RACE

KATIE IS A — I BELIEVE SHE'S A FRESHMAN YEAH SO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A DISTANCE RUNNER FROM HIGH SCHOOL ON YOU KNOW, REBEKAH TOPHAM — >> WAS AHEAD OF THE CURVE >> YOU SEE KELLEN AND ALIPHINE IN THEIR LATE 20s, EARLY 30s KILLIN' IT NOW PROFESSIONALLY

WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG? DO YOU HAVE A THEORY BEHIND THAT? >> YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ENDURANCE-ORIENTED EVENT I TRULY HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION OVER THE YEARS THAT THE NATURE OF THE EVENT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES — THERE IS STILL DEVELOPMENT YOU SEE SOME OF THESE TOP GUYS LIKE TYSON GAY CONTINUING TO DEVELOP IN THE SPRINTS AS THE YEARS GO BY, AS THE — AS THEY GET OLDER AND OLDER BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, A SPRINTER IS GOING TO HAVE A BRIEFER CAREER, A FASTER CAREER, AND A DISTANCE RUNNER HAS GOT THE POTENTIAL FOR A LONG CAREER AND IT TAKES AWHILE TO DEVELOP ATHLETICALLY AS A DISTANCE RUNNER

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET UPPER LEVEL AT IT, IT TAKES LOGGING A LOT OF MILES AND A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY IN THE EVENT >> SO THAT — ARE WE WRAPPED UP HERE? WE GOT ONE MORE >> WE'VE GOT THE MEN'S 3000 >> WELL, WITH THIS WOMEN'S 3000 >> OH, IS THERE ANOTHER HEAT? >> THERE'S NOT ANOTHER HEAT

>> OH, ONE MORE RUNNER, YEAH AND THEN WE HAVE THE MEN'S 3K COMING UP RIGHT AFTER THIS BEFORE WE GO I'D LIKE TO LET EYE KNOW AND THANK LARRY AND SUSAN CONRAD FROM ASHLAND, KANSAS FOR PRODUCTION SUPPORT OF THE SHOCKER PRELUDE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRACK AND FIELD SUPPORT THROUGHOUT ALL THE YEARS AND PRODUCTIONS SUPPORT THE SHOCKER PRELUDE IS PROVIDED IN PART BY THE CONASTAGA ENERGY PARTNER IN LIBERAL, KANSAS

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED ON BEHALF OF THE ORPHEUM THEATER WICHITA'S NON-PROFIT SHOW INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND AT WICHITAORPHEUMCOM

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON THE — THANK YOU, COACH, FOR JOINING US ON THE BROADCAST SOME INSIGHT COOPER MAYBE COULD OR COULD NOT BRING US THANKS FOR BEING HERE >> I APPRECIATE IT >> THIS IS AN HONOR

>> COMING UP NEXT AFTER THIS BREAK WE'LL HAVE THE 3K ON THE MEN'S SIDE AT 6:32 OR JUST A COUPLE MINUTES AFTER THAT RATHER BE RIGHT BACK >> WELCOME BACK INSIDE THE HESKETT CENTER THIS IS THE TENTH ANNUAL SHOCKER PRELUDE I'M WILL KUNKEL

COOPER HANKING IS HERE AS WELL RIGHT NOW WE ARE ON THE MEN'S SIDE OF THE 3K JUST GETTING UNDERWAY ONLY ABOUT 45 SECONDS INTO THIS RACE YOU HAVE NOT MISSED TOO MUCH FRANKLY YOU HAVEN'T REALLY MISSED ANYTHING

JUST GOING LEFT RIGHT, LEFT RIGHT, LEFT RIGHT AT THIS POINT WE DO HAVE SOME SHOCKERS COMPETING IN THIS MEN'S 3K WE HAVE JOE HARTER, HE'S IN LANE 1 LANE 2 KYLE LARKIN ANOTHER SHOCKER

UNATTACHED RUNNING PEDRO MONTOYA AS A JUNIOR, YOU HAVE DRAY CARSON RUNNING AND THAT WILL — YOU ALSO HAVE THE FRESHMAN ALEX MOEN RUNNING FOR WICHITA STATE THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER LOCAL ATHLETES SUCH AS COLE BOSLEY EMPORIA STATE AND GRANT KNOLL ALSO A HORNET

AND ALSO IS CALEB MOES OUT OF FRIENDS, NOAH BARRA JAZZ, JONATHAN PETTY JOHN AND RENO FERRIS AND BLAINE WHITSON AND PATRICK HARRIS IN 5 AND 6 ONE MORE TIME YOU HAVE SHOCKERS IN 1, 2, 3, AND 4 IRING'S AND WHAT YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR

>> Cooper: AND WHAT YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR, HERE, IS THE SENIORITY TWO SENIORS FROM WICHITA STATE IN THE RACE WE HAVE AN UNATTACHED ATHLETE, PEDRO MONTOYA HE'S ONE TO LOOK OUT FOR BUT ACTUALLY JOE HARTER IS IN THE TOP TEN LIST FOR THE WSU ALL-TIME TOP TEN 3000M RUNNERS WITH AN 8:20:88

WILL HE RUN THAT TODAY? PROBABLY NOT BUT IT IS EARLY IN THE SEASON HE'S GOT HIS OTHER TEAMMATES TO PUSH HIM SO LET'S HOPE THAT WE SEE A GOOD PERFORMANCE HERE THE MEET RECORD SET BY EDMOND HENSHAW, SHOCKER PRELUDE RECORD IS 8:20:42

SO JOE HARTER RIGHT THERE WITH HIS PERSONAL BEST WITH 8:20:88 JUST A FEW TENTHS OFF OF THE MEET RECORD THE HESKETT RECORD SET BY WICHITA STATE ATHLETE IGIS JOCIS AT 8:14 LET'S SEE WHAT JOE CAN DO IN THIS RACE YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE ATHLETES BEFORE COACH BOLT TALKING ABOUT DESIREE OSBORN-SPEAR, TALKING ABOUT ALIPHINE TULIAMUCK, TALKING ABOUT KELLEN JOHNSON-TAYLOR IN THE MEN'S SIDE WE HAVEN'T SEEN AS MANY PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES COMPETING IN THE DISTANCE EVENTS

AND WE DO HAVE A FEW THERE'S A FEW LOCAL RUNNERS NATE WADSWORTH WAS A BIT BEFORE BOLT'S TIME I BELIEVE BOLT CAME HIS SENIOR YEAR STILL COMPETES AND TRAINS AND COACHES OTHERS

YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING INTO COACHING AS WELL BUT THE DISTANCE, THE DISTANCE RUNS CAN JUST TAKE A TOLL ON YOUR BODY IT'S HARD TO CONTINUE THAT TYPE OF TRAINING KNOWING THAT AS A PROFESSIONAL TRACK ATHLETE, BOLT MENTIONED IT BEFORE WITH KELLEN TAYLOR, IT'S GOT TO BECOME A BUSINESS YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU CAN MAKE MONEY AND TRACK JUST ISN'T A LARGE REVENUE GENERATING SPORT, AS I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE

>> Will: DID YOU EVER HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THE LONG RUNS? >> Cooper: NO DID I THINK I WAS — I WAS SELF-AWARE IN MY COMPETITION YOU KNOW, COMING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL I THINK BY MY SOPHOMORE YEAR OF COLLEGE I WAS REALLY — MY GOAL WAS SET ON THE OLYMPIC TRIALS BUT I NEVER ONCE REALLY CONSIDERED DOING THE PROFESSIONAL ROUTE IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO THAT UNLESS YOU'RE SOME SORT OF OUTSTANDING ATHLETE

I WAS FAIRLY PLAGUED WITH INJURIES AND MY ROLE ON THE TEAM TRANSITIONED FROM, HEY, I'M GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, MY FIRST CONFERENCE MEET I WAS FIFTH PLACE IN THE HURDLES AS A FRESHMAN NOW, I RAN AN 832 AND I GOT FIFTH

NOW YOU HAVE TO BE AT AN 81 OR LESS TO EVEN MAKE THE TOP EIGHT IN THE NBC AT LEAST LAST YEAR AND SO THAT'S WHY I TALK ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THE QUALITY OF ATHLETE THAT NOT ONLY WICHITA STATE'S BEEN ABLE TO RECRUIT, BUT ALSO THE NBC, THE AAC AND OVERALL, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE WORLD AND THE QUALITY OF ATHLETE THAT'S BEEN ABLE TO BE PRODUCED USAIN BOLT, WHO IS NOT A QUINT SENTBLE SPRINTER, HAS KIND OF SHIFTED THE STEREOTYPE OF WHAT A SPRINTER SHOULD BE BUILT LIKE

AND HOW TALL THEY NEED TO BE AND THE LENGTH OF STRIDE THEY NEED TO TAKE AND SO, NO, MY ROLE SHIFTED FOR SURE FROM BEING A SHORT HURDLER AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE TEAM WITH FAST TIMES TO HOW DO I SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE THE OTHER ATHLETES WHO ARE WAY BETTER THAN ME ON THE TEAM SNROO YOU WERE A MENTOR >> Cooper: YEAH IN SOME WAYS

I WAS FORTUNATELY A PART OF, WELL, AN UNOFFICIAL EVENT, BUT I WAS A PART OF THE SCHOOL RECORD SHUTTLE HURDLE RELAY TEAM, WHICH IS A PLAST TO WATCH EACH TEAM GETS TWO LANES, TWO ATHLETES GO ONE WAY, TWO ATHLETES NO THE OTHER WAY YOU JUST KIND OF YELL OUT WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO BUT I WAS ABLE TO BE ON THAT TEAM BECAUSE I WAS PART OF A HURDLE CREW WE HAD TWO GUYS GO TO THE OLYMPIC TRIALS, MAYBE THREE, TODD MCKOWN WE MENTIONED EARLIER 6'4", 6'5" STUD HURDLER

WE HAD LAWSON MONTGOMERY, HE WAS A TRANSFER FROM KU WE HAD SAM GARRISON, A STUD OUT OF PONCA CITY, OKLAHOMA AND SO WE HAD A GREAT HURDLE SQUAD AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND I THINK JUST THE CONFERENCE HAS ONLY GOTTEN BETTER SINCE >> Will: YOU KNOW, EVERY ATHLETE KIND OF GOES THROUGH THAT MENTOR — GETS TO THAT MENTOR PHASE I THINK AT SOME POINT MAKE PELL FRIDAY, WHO IS A WICHITA KID, PITCHED HERE AT WICHITA STATE

JUST RETIRED FROM AFTER 12 YEARS OF MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL SAID THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, YOU KNOW, HE TOOK ON THAT MENTOR ROLE HE WAS NO LONGER THAT TOP DOG IN THE CLUB HOUSE FROM A PITCHING STANDPOINT AND NOW HE'S INTO COACHING HERE AT NEWMAN, RIGHT HERE IN WICHITA HE'S ON THEIR BASEBALL STAFF

HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THE COACHING ROUTE? BECAUSE IT'S SO HARD FOR SO MANY ATHLETES WHEN THEY'RE DONE WITH IT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO NEXT >> Cooper: I'VE COACHED HIGH SCHOOL AND I'VE, I HAVEN'T ONCE LOOKED AT PROFESSIONAL COACHING AND GOING INTO ON A COLLEGE STAFF OR DOING THAT FULL-TIME I DO ENJOY IT

I DO ENJOY SEEING ATHLETES DEVELOP I THINK, YOU KNOW, BOLT'S BEEN A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO DEVELOP ATHLETES AND ENCOURAGE THEM IN THAT WAY WHAT'S HARD IS YOU STILL WANT TO GO OUT THERE YOU STILL WANT TO COMPETE AND DO THINGS >> Will: YOU WANT TO

>> Cooper: YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR AGE SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR SPEED IN SOME WAY AND IT'S — >> Will: I FEEL LIKE I CAN THROW HARDER NOW BUT IF I THREW A BALL RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK I COULD BREAK A PANE OF GLASS >> Cooper: EXACTLY HERE IN THE 3K WE'VE GOT TWO LAPS LEFT

WE MENTIONED PEDRO MONTOYA BEFORE HE IS OUT IN FRONT WE HAVE JOE HARTER — OR NO THAT'S ALEX MOEN FROM WICHITA STATE, THE NUMBER 9 WE HAVE ANOTHER UNATTACHED ATHLETE BEHIND PEDRO

I'M TRYING TO FIND THAT JERSEY BUT A GREAT RUN HERE BY PEDRO MONTOYA A GREAT RUN I HAD TO HIGHLIGHT ALEX MOEN HE'S NINTH COMING INTO THIS WITH A 9:15

I THINK HE'S GOING TO CRUSH THAT TIME YOU LOOK HE'S GOT ONE MORE LAP LEFT >> Will: ALEX IS A FRESHMAN PUTTING TOGETHER A VERY NICE RUN WE'VE GOT ABOUT — (BELL RINGS

) >> Will: YEAH THIS IS OUR BELL LAP HERE MEN'S 3K >> Cooper: REALLY TURNING IT ON THERE YOU SEE PEDRO REALLY, REALLY TURN IT ON

>> Will: THIS IS WHERE YOU — I MEAN THERE'S NO DOUBT YOU EMPTY THE TANK WHATEVER YOU HAVE HERE >> Cooper: EXACTLY >> Will: YOU'RE PUTTING IT OUT THERE >> Cooper: WHEN YOU'RE DISTANCE RUNNERS, WE'RE ALL DOING SO MANY MILES A WEEK

EVERYONE KNOWS THEY CAN RUN A 3K IT'S NOT WHETHER OR NOT HOW YOU — LIKE IF YOU CAN FINISH IT'S WHAT KIND OF ENERGY DO YOU HAVE AT THE END, HOW STRATEGIC WERE YOU IN YOUR RACE AND IN SAVING WHAT YOU HAD FOR THE END GREAT RUN BY PEDRO MONTOYA THAT'S AN 8:50

ABOUT 8:51 SO QUITE A WAYS OFF OF THE MEET RECORD BUT IT'S A STRATEGIC RACE, SO YOU NEVER KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO GO I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ALEX MOEN THERE HE WAS IN AT A 9:15

HE JUST CRUSHED THAT BY ABOUT 20 SECONDS SO ABOUT 5:78:54, 8:55 FOR HIM THAT'S A — THAT'S HUGE FOR A FRESHMAN >> Will: WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR HIS CONFIDENCE? >> Cooper: IN THE DISTANCE RACES, HE'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GET — I DOUBT TOO MANY SHOTS TO COMPETE AT A HIGH LEVEL, IN HIGH LEVEL RACES, RIGHT YOU HAVE — HE'S A FRESHMAN

HIS TIMES AREN'T FANTASTIC AND SO AND THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AS A FRESHMAN YOU'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE IN THE HEAT WITH HIGH LEVEL COMPETITION MOST MEETS YOU GO TO, IF THEY'RE HIGHER LEVEL, ARE NOT HOSTED BY THE SHOCKERS, SAY THE TRIANGULAR IF HE COMPETES THIS WEEKEND, HE MAY NOT AND GET THE CHANCE TO COMPETE WITH THE OTHER 3K ALL-STARS FROM THESE OTHER SCHOOLS

AND SO GETTING THAT OPPORTUNITY AND BEATING — AND BEING IN THE TOP NINE SEED AND THEN ENDING IN THE TOP FOUR OR FIVE, I THINK THAT'S HUGE AND COACH HUNTER IS GOING TO TELL HIM THAT AFTER THIS RACE AND LATER THIS WEEK I DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL COMPETE ON SATURDAY WE'LL SEE WHAT HE DOES AND A LOT OF THESE DISTANCE RUNNERS, TOO, YOU GET TO CONFERENCE AND THEY MAY RUN THE 1500 AND THE — MAYBE THE 4 X 800, THEY MIGHT RUN THE 3CRVEGDZ TOO AND IF THEIR CONFERENCE IS A 5K OR 10K AND THEY WILL JUST BEAT BY THE END OF IT

AND SO IT'S A LONG SEASON I THINK THAT'S A GOOD RESULT THERE FROM THE FRESHMAN WE'LL SEE HOW HE HOLDS OUT FOR THIS ENTIRE SEASON NEXT UP ON THE TRACK, WE HAVE THE 4 X 400 WOMEN'S RELAY >> Will: AND WE DO HAVE SOME WICHITA STATE ATHLETES COMPETING IN THIS

THERE'S AN UNATTACHED WICHITA STATE C TEAM REBEKAH TOPHAM, GABRIEL LAREYNA, THEN UNATTACHED WICHITA STATE B TEAM, SYDNEY WILSON, MARIA ROUGH HER OH HANNAH COLE AND JALEN MILL GAN OUT OF EMPORIA STATE, TEAM B CASEY — KAYCEE MAYFIELD, — WELL, WE HAD STEVE RAINBOLT ON THE SET FOR AWHILE AND HE WAS TREMENDOUS TO TALK TO WHAT MAKES HIM SO GOOD AS A COACH? BECAUSE HE WAS A TREMENDOUS ATHLETE HE'S COACHED SOME OF THE HIGHEST LEVELS AND NOW HE'S BEEN DOING TREMENDOUS THINGS HERE AT WICHITA STATE

HE'S BUILT SUCH A GREAT CULTURE HIS ASSISTANTS HAVE STUCK AROUND FOR THE SHORTEST TENURED ONE IS ABOUT A DECADE HERE ALL THAT'S IMPRESSIVE FROM AN ON PAPER STANDPOINT BUT THE — FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WATCHING AND LISTENING THAT DON'T KNOW HIM PERSONALLY OR HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A PRACTICE OR TRAINING SESSION WITH HIM, WHAT MAKES HIM SO GOOD FOR SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN AROUND HIM? >> Cooper: YOU KNOW, BOLT IS A UNIQUE GUY HE'S CHARISMATIC

HE'S POSITIVE HE'S LIKE INSASHABLY POSITIVE YOU NOT GET THE GUY TO SAY A NEGATIVE — EVERY ATHLETE AS THEY COME IN HE SEES POTENTIAL IN EVERY ATHLETE HE TOLD ME I WAS GOING TO BE AN ALL-AMERICAN

WE CAN SEE THE RESULTS HERE FROM THE WOMEN'S 3000 METERS, WINNIE KINKING THAT RACE — WINNING THE RACE WE'LL GET THE TIMES UP HERE IN A BIT BUT YEAH, BOLT HAS JUST DONE GREAT JOB OF THAT BUILDING THAT CULTURE NOW, HE'S NOT THE MOST TECHNICAL GUY

HE KNOWS HOW TO DELEGATE TO GUYS LIKE COACH WISE, WHO IS THE NUMBERS GUY, WHO IS THE CREATIVE KIND OF GENIUS AROUND THE TRAINING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT HE'S GOT COACH HUNTER, WHO IS A BRILLIANT DISTANCE COACH COACH BOLT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COACH DISTANCE NOW, HE'D ENCOURAGE THOSE ATHLETES, BUT HE'S NOT A TECHNICAL GUY HE IS A THE QUINTESSENTIAL, IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE TO BUSINESS TERMS, HE'S THE CEO

HE'S THE GM OF A BASEBALL TEAM HE KNOWS HOW TO RECRUIT AND HOW TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IN THEIR SPECIALTIES AND THEIR DIFFERENT AREAS SO AS WE GET GOING IN THIS 4 X 400 RELAY IT'S GOING TO BE SCORED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY SO THE UNATTACHED TEAMS OBVIOUSLY WON'T SCORE THESE OTHER TEAMS THAT HAVE MULTIPLE TEAMS HERE AND THE FIRST HEAT AND THE NEXT HEAT YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO TAKE ONE TEAM TO SCORE IN THIS MEET

SO OBU WILL ONLY SCORE ONE TEAM MOST LIKELY IN THE SECOND HEAT BUT THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVENTS ON THE TRACK JUST BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF A TEAM-BASED MIND-SET THERE'S THE BATON THE ANXIETY OF GETTING AROUND, WINNING THE POLE YOU GOT REBEKAH TOPHAM HERE IN LANE 2

THE DISTANCE RUNNER RUNNING A 400M RACE WITH BOLT ENCOURAGES — WHAT BOLT ENCOURAGES IS EVERYBODY RUN THE 4 X 400 AT THE END OF THE RACE HE JUST THINKS IT'S A BRILLIANT TEAM EVENT >> Will: SO THAT WAS REBEKAH TOPHAM, CORRECT? >> Cooper: YES >> Will: WHY WAS SHE NOT ON THE BLOCKS WHEREAS THE REST OF THE RUNNERS WERE? >> Cooper: SHE'S A DISTANCE RUNNER

SO SHE'S PROBABLY NEVER BEEN IN BLOCKS IN HER LIFE [ LAUGHTER ] >> Will: WHAT ARE THESE THINGS >> Cooper: AND WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO GET — SHE'S PROBABLY BEEN OUT OF THEM A FEW TIMES BUT HER IDEA IS NOT POWER HER IDEA IS JUST TO GENERATE SPEED AND STRENGTH AND STAMINA

SHE'S DOING GREAT HERE IN SECOND PLACE HERE BEHIND THE WOMEN OF OBU WE ALSO HAVE LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER WICHITA STATE TEAM AND EMPORIA STATE >> Will: SYDNEY WILSON WAS THE ONE THAT STARTED THAT THEM WILSON AND TOPHAM BOTH ON THE TRACK RIGHT NOW TO START THIS RACE

THIS IS ONE OF — EVERYONE LOVES THIS RACE BECAUSE OF THE TEAM ASPECT AND THE BATON PASS LIKE YOU MENTIONED >> Cooper: YEAH >> Will: OLYMPICS COME AROUND, THIS IS ONE OF THE FAVORITES, AS IT IS IN SWIMMING, THE RELAY >> Cooper: YEAH >> Will: IS ONE OF EVERYONE'S FAVORITES BECAUSE OF THAT TEAM ASPECT

WICHITA STATE WITH TWO TEAMS OUT HERE IS AN ABSOLUTE BLAST RIGHT NOW >> Cooper: IT'S TYPICALLY THE LAST RACE IN A MEET IT IS IN THE OLYMPICS IT IS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND THAT CREATES SOME — IT FEELS LIKE ALL OF THE EVENTS ARE BUILDING TO THAT ONE

AND NOT THAT THE ENTIRE MEET WILL BE DECIDED, BUT YOU LOOK AT LIKE THE FORMER OLYMPIC COMPETITIONS YOU SEE THE US IN THERE YOU SEE MOST RECENTLY SOUTH AFRICA WITH THE WORLD RECORD HOLDER

BARBADOS, I BELIEVE BAHAMAS HAS BEEN IN THERE JAMAICA IS IN THERE IT'S A FUN RACE AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN GO LONG BECAUSE IT'S LONGER IT'S NOT THE 4 X 100 WHERE IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON THE HANDOFFS AND START AND EVERYTHING BUT IT IS ABOUT STRATEGY AND ESPECIALLY INDOOR, YOU KNOW

IT'S EIGHT LAPS SO EACH PERSON IS RUNNING TWO LAPS YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHO'S GOING TO HAND OFF IN THE ZONE AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS IS THE JUST THE STAGGER OF THE HANDOFF SO YOU HAVE THE 20M ZONE THAT YOU GOTTA HAND OFF THE BATON IN NOW, YOU CAN DO THAT A NUMBER OF WAYS

YOU CAN TAKE THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ZONE IF YOU'RE THE NEXT ATHLETE TO GO AND YOU'RE GONNA RUN PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER 400M NOW, YOU COULD ALSO SAGGER IT A LITTLE BIT AND ACCEPT THAT ABOUT 10M IN SO YOU HAVE A SECOND LEG WHO'S FASTER THAN EVERYBODY AND WE WANT TO ADD A FEW MORE METERS TO HER RUN TO ALLOW A FASTER TIME OVERALL AND WE LET THE NEXT GAL RUN 390M BECAUSE SHE'S GOT MAYBE NOT AS GOOD STAMINA BUT SHE'S GOT GREAT SPEED SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT, NOT THAT EVERYONE THINKS ABOUT THOSE THINGS

BUT WITHIN THE 20M ZONE ESPECIALLY TWAWDZ THE END OF THE RACE, AND YOU'VE SEEN A LOT IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND INEXPERIENCED TEAMS THE BATON IS HANDOFF YOU SEE GUYS JUMPING OVER EACH OTHER, YOU SEE PEOPLE FINISHING THE RACE — >> Will: IT'S NO EASY FEAT >> Cooper: NOT AT ALL YOU SEE PEOPLE FINISHING THE RACE AND WANDERING IN LANE 1

THEY FORGOT THAT THE LACE IS GOING ON — THAT THE RACE IS GOING ON OH YEAH YEAH I JUST HANDED OFF

THERE'S PROBABLY PEOPLE BEHIND ME SO I LIKE SEEING ATHLETES COMPETE, COMPETE AS A TEAM AND REALLY PUT FORTH A GOOD EFFORT >> Will: AND YOU HEAR — YOU KNOW, IF YOU LISTEN RIGHT NOW, TO THE BACKGROUND, YOU'LL HEAR SOME OF THE MOST OF THE CHEERING THAT YOU'VE EVER HEARD THROUGHOUT THE RACE BECAUSE TEAMMATES ARE ALL WATCHING, FANS ARE WATCHING AND EVERYONE HAS KIND OF GOT A LITTLE BIT RIDING ON THIS RACE WHEREAS THE OTHER ONES, ONE, THEY'RE MUCH SHORTER AND SOME OF THE LONGER ONES THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CHEERING GOING ON IN BETWEEN BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT TO BE CHEERED ABOUT BUT THAT BATON PASS ALWAYS BRINGS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT OUT FROM THE FANS AND THE SPECTATORS

>> Cooper: AND THE COACHING STAFF HERE AT WICHITA STATE AND I THINK A LOT OF COACHING STAFF, NOT TO DISCOUNT OTHER PROGRAMS, BUT A LOT OF THE EVENTS ARE DONE AND THEY ENCOURAGE THEIR ATHLETES TO STICK AROUND AND CHEER ON THE OTHER ATHLETES BECAUSE IT IS THE LAST EVENT NOW, WE'LL BE FOLLOWED UP WITH THE 4 X 800 AFTER THIS, WHICH IS NOT AN OFFICIAL D-I EVENT BUT A LOT OF ATHLETES ARE NOW DONE THEY'RE FINISHED WITH THEIR EVENT THEY'RE GOING TO CHEER ON THEIR OTHER TEAMMATES, WHICH I THINK IS A BLAST

IT'S REALLY FUN TO SEE I'VE BEEN A PART OF TEAMS AT A CONFERENCE MEET WHERE THE MEET WINNER WAS GOING TO BE DECIDED BY THE 4 X 400 YOU CAN IMAGINE THE VOLUME THAT COMES FROM THE — >> Will: HOW MUCH FUN IS THAT? >> Cooper: IT'S A BLAST IT'S SO MUCH FUN AND WE'VE BEEN ON THE WINNING END OF SOME OF THOSE RACES

WE'VE BEEN ON THE LOSING END OF THOSE RACES BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE TEAM ASPECT COMES INTO PLAY A LOT NOT ONLY IN THE SCORING AND THE EVENT OF THE 4 X 400 BUT JUST EVERYBODY CHEERING TOGETHER AND CHEERING ON ONE PERSON AND THAT'S FUN TO SEE SO >> Will: SO THAT CONCLUDES THE 4 X 400, SECTION 1 NOW, WE HAVE SECTION 2 COMING UP FRIENDS, UNATTACHED WICHITA STATE TEAM, OKLAHOMA BAPTIST AND EMPORIA STATE TEAM COMPETING IN THIS AS WELL IF YOU'RE CURIOUS, THESE SHOCKER PRELUDE RECORD WAS SET IN 2011 BY YOUR WICHITA STATE, 3:48

AND THE HESKETT RECORD WAS SET BY KANSAS, THAT LAST YEAR, 3:45:07 IT WAS THAT PART OF THE TRIANGULAR I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE KANSAS TEAM, KANSAS, KANSAS STATE AND SHOCKERS ALL COMPETED HERE LAST YEAR >> Cooper: YES WHEN THEY DID — KANSAS ALWAYS HAS A GREAT SPRINTING TEAM AND ESPECIALLY ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE THERE'S SOME LEGENDARY PROFESSIONAL WOMEN WHO HAVE COME OUT OF THERE AND I'VE SEEN AT THE KANSAS RELAYS AND THE TRIANGULAR AS WELL

>> Will: LET'S TOUCH ON THESE WOMEN TEAM SCORES HERE OBU LEADING THE PACK QUITE HANDILY AT THIS POINT 13 IS5 JUST AHEAD OF FRIENDS BY 10

5 POINTS 105, 105 CARRY THE 1, WILL

SHOCKERS HAVE 80 HERE ARE THE MEN'S SIDE WICHITA STATE UP BY 10 POINTS THEY MADE UP SOME GROUND AFTER THE — AFTER OBU HAD QUITE A FEW RUNNERS IN SOME OF THE OTHER RACES WHERE WICHITA STATE HAD 0, RIGHT NOW WICHITA STATE ON TOP BY 10 POINTS OVER OBU, EMPORIA STATE WITH 70 TRENDS 60

BUTLER COMMUNITY COLLEGE 25 OTTAWA UNIVERSITY AND FORT HAYS STATE IN SIXTH AND SEVENTH PLACE AS WE START OUR SECTION 2 OF THE 4 X 400 RELAY HERE ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE THIS IS TWO OF TWO, BY THE WAY >> Cooper: SO WE HAVE THE UNATTACHED TEAM FROM WICHITA STATE

THEY ARE THE A-TEAM IN THIS RELAY AND I SUSPECT WE'LL PUT FORTH A GOOD EFFORT OUR C-TIME IS QUITE A BIT SLOWER THAN OKLAHOMA BAPTIST OKLAHOMA BAPTIST BRINGING A STRONG TEAM, WICHITA STATE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE TRIANGULAR IS ON SATURDAY, WE HAVE AN UNATTACHED TEAM, SO HONESTLY IT DOESN'T EVEN REALLY MATTER HOW WE DO IT IS A, AS BOLT WOULD SAY, A GLORIFIED TRAINING EXERCISE

SO — >> Will: AND THERE'S ALSO A SENSE OF ACCOUNTABILITY IN THIS RACE BECAUSE OTHERS ARE RELYING ON YOU WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING YOUR SPRINT, OF COURSE THOSE SORES GO TOWARD THE TEAM — SCORES GO TOWARDS THE TEAM BUT IN THIS ONE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE RELYING ON YOUR IMMEDIATELY WITHIN THE SAME RACE WITH THAT BATON PASS, WHETHER YOU GETTING THERE FIRST AND BEATING THE OTHER SCHOOLS TO THAT FIRST BATON, SECOND AND THIRD BATON AND PASS >> Cooper: EXACTLY

AND THAT CAN BE A MOTIVATOR SOME ATHLETES — I DON'T THINK MANY ATHLETES CRUMBLE UNDER THAT TYPE OF PRESSURE BUT I THINK IT'S FUN TO SEE — >> Will: I THINK IT CERTAINLY ADDS TO THAT JUST THAT COMPETITIVE SPIRIT >> Cooper: WELL AND WHEN YOU'RE THE THIRD AND THE FOURTH LEG IN THESE RACES, AND YOU'VE SEEN THE ENTIRE RACE PLAY OUT, AND YOU KNOW THAT, HEY, — AND IT'S ALL RIDING ON ME

AND I'VE GOT TO PUT FORTH A GOOD EFFORT >> Will: AND IF YOU SEE YOUR TEAMMATE DO A GOOD JOB YOU WANT TO DO YOUR PART TO NOT LET HER TEAMMATE EFFORT GO TO WASTE AND IF — YOU DON'T WANT HER EFFORT TO BE THE REASON YOU LOST YOU WANT TO PICK HER UP AND FINISH A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BECAUSE OF YOUR EFFORT YOU'RE ALSO STANDING ON THE SIDE OF THE TRACK WITH THE GIRL YOU'RE GOING TO GO UP AGAINST FOR THE FIRST FOUR OR FIVE SIX LAPSE, THEN STEP IN THE BOX AND YOU'RE READY TO GO AGAINST HERE

SO YOU WANT TO BEAT HER IN THAT WAY AS WELL >> Cooper: YEAH EXACTLY OBU OUT WITH A COMMANDING LEAD, BUT A GREAT MOVE HERE BY THE SECOND LEG FROM WICHITA STATE UNATTACHED ATHLETE PROBABLY ONE OF THE FASTER LEGS HERE THAT WE'LL SEE LET'S SEE IF WE CAN BUILD ON THAT

WE HAVE THIS IS JASMINE WE SAW HER EARLIER IN THE — OR WE SAW HER EARLIER IN THE 600M REMEMBER, SHE WAS THE SPRINTER TURNED CROSS COUNTRY TURNED NOW SPRINTER AND 600M RUNNER SHE KIND OF DOES IT ALL >> Will: SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE TOOK THE LEAD A LITTLE BIT ON THE BACK STRETCH

IT LOOKED LIKE THEY HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE HANDOFF, BUT ALL WAS GOOD AND WELL AS IT DID NOT HIT THE GROUND >> Cooper: YEAH WE'LL SEE IF SHE HOLDS ON SHE HAS THE STAMINA WE'LL GET UNDERWAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

WE'RE ONLY RUNNING 3 MINUTES BEHIND FOR A TRACK MEET THAT'S EXCELLENT I'D LIKE TO LET EYE KNOW CLOSED CAPTIONINGING PROVIDED ON BEHALF OF THE ORPHEUM THEATER, WICHITA'S NON-PROFIT CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND FINALLY, WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO THANK LARRY AND SUSIE CONRAD FROM ASHLAND, KANSAS, FOR PRODUCTION SUPPORT OF THE SHOCKER PRECLUDE — PRELUDE, SHOCKER TRACK AND FIELD

TODAY — UP TO DATE AND UP TO SPEED SO FAR WE'RE ABOUT TO GET THE MEN'S 4 X 400M RELAY THERE ARE TWO SECTIONS IN HERE WE'LL HAVE AN UNATTACHED WICHITA STATE C TEAM, UNATTACHED WICHITA STATE B TEAM AND OBU C AND >> Will: WHEN THEY SAY WHY DID YOU STOP AFTER THREE LEGS? >> Cooper: THERE YOU GO THERE'S THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF IT'S NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS TWO HEADS >> Will: IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'LL PROBABLY BE DISQUALIFIED

IF IT GETS KNOCKED OUT OF YOUR HANDS YOU PROBABLY CAN GO BACK AND PICK IT UP AND BE FINE THIS IS A DISTANCE RUNNER HERE FOR WICHITA STATE KOSSOVER HE GOT THE OBU RUNNER COMPLETELY OFF HAD TO CHANGE HIS STRIDE HERE ON THE TURN ONE

>> Cooper: THAT'S GREAT RUN FROM A DISTANCE RUNNER IT'S FUN TO SEE I RAN ONE OF THE RECORD HOLDERS IN THIS MEET, JAKE WIKE WAS A TEAMMATE OF MINE HE WAS ON 4 X 400 TEAMS HE WAS A BRILLIANT 3K, 5K, 10 THERE, K GUY

CROSS COUNTRY RUNNER HE COULD RUN A 49 SECOND 400-METER AND IT WAS FUN TO RUN WITH GUYS LIKE THAT WHO YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT TO PUT DOWN — HE'D RUN FASTER THAN ME IN A LOT OF IMMEDIATES SO IT WAS JUST — IN A LOT OF MEETS ETHAN, GREAT RUN FROM HIM

GREAT RUN FROM THE SHOCKERS, BOTH ATTACHED AND UNATTACHED >> Will: WE'RE NOW 2:18 INTO THIS MEN'S 4 X 400-METER RELAY WE DO HAVE ANOTHER SECTION COMING UP IN THIS ONE WE WILL HAVE ONE WICHITA STATE TEAM IN THE NEXT SECTION STICK AROUND FOR THAT, WHICH I RECOMMEND YOU DO

>> Cooper: SO, COACH BOLT CAME OUT OF KU, TRAINED OUT IN I BELIEVE SANTA BARBARA IN THE DECATHLON DID POST COLLEGIATE COMPETITIONS >> Will: OBU IS THE ONLY TEAM RIGHT NOW THAT STILL HAS A RUNNER IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON OBU IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS FOUR RUNNERS IN THIS PARTICULAR RACE CONTINUE, COOPER

I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF >> Cooper: HE MENTIONED KENT STATE HE WAS A COACH AT KENT STATE, WHERE HE COACHED JOHN WISE, HIS SPRINTS AND HURDLES COACH HE WAS ALSO AT NEBRASKA AT ONE POINT IN TIME IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO NEBRASKA THEY HAVE A VERY, VERY GREAT HISTORICALLY GREAT PROGRAM, OLYMPIC LEVEL RUNNERS

BUT THEIR FACILITY IS FANTASTIC THEY HAVE A TRACK THAT IS RACED ON THE CURVES SO WE'LL SEE AT MARTIALS INDOORS — AT NATIONALS INDOORS AT PRETTY MUCH EVERY LEVEL — >> Cooper: IT'S JUST ODD, SO POM PEAT — COMPETING ON A BANKED TRACK, WHICH I THINK THEY WILL COMPETE AT NEBRASKA THIS YEAR IT'S USUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST COUPLE MEETS, THE HUSKER INVITATIONAL >> Will: HOW DIFFICULT IS THAT? BECAUSE IF YOU PLAY BASKETBALL, EVERY COURT IS THE SAME, EVERY GOAL IS THE SAME HEIGHT IN FOOTBALL, EVERYTHING IS 100 YARDS AND EVERYTHING IS THE SAME IN TRACK AND FIELD AND BASEBALL THE SAME KIND OF WAY

NOT EVERY STADIUM IS THE SAME, BUT THE BASES ARE 90 FEET APART YOU'RE COMPETING ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS AND DIFFERENT LANES AND CURVES AND DIFFERENT ALL OF IT HOW DIFFICULT IS THAT? >> Cooper: IT'S REALLY HARD TO COMPARE THOSE OTHER SPORTS WITH THE SPORT OF TRACK AND FIELD THE SPORT OF TRACK AND FIELD IS SO I WOULD SAY SO INDIVIDUALIZED NOW WE LOOK AT A TEAM EVENT, THIS IS THE FINAL HEAT OF THE MEN'S 4 X 400

>> Will: WICHITA STATE, THE A TEAM, ADAM GAUZI, ISAAC POE AND THEN ADAM MUDGE THERE IN LANE 2 FOR THE SHOCKER FANS THAT WANT TO WATCH LANE 2 IS WICHITA STATE'S A-TEAM LANE 1, BUTLER COMMUNITY COLLEGE JUST ONE RUNNER FOR THEIR B-TEAM IN LANE 3 OF FRIENDS, WITH ALL FOUR RUNNERS JACOB CLARK, GABE KUHN, LAVAUGHNTE MINNIS AND ISAAC CLARK

IN LANE 4 OKLAHOMA BAPTIST SAYVON MILTON, DAKOTA KAPPELLE CLAYTON HONEYCUTT ANDSHA ASSISTANTEE KNAULS MUSIC, ALL RIGHT DANGER ZONE! MAGNIFICENT! PICKING THINGS UP HERE IN THE LAST 30 MINUTES OF TONIGHT'S SHOW! EMPORIA STATE IN LANE 5

WYATT SANDER, BRANDON RHONE, KYLE EVANS IN LANE 6, BUTLER COMMUNITY COLLEGE WITH ANOTHER TEAM IN HERE ALL FOUR RUNNERS COMPETING, KALIN RAGS DALE, TRAVIS COLLINS, JAMEEL — WHAT TOOK SO LONG TO GET THE MUSIC? >> Cooper: I DON'T KNOW THE DANGER ZONE IS HELPING THE GUYS >> Will: IT'S HELPING ME! WE'RE ON HOUR 5 HERE! [ LAUGHTER ] >> Cooper: SO YOU SEE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD RUN BY BUTLER

I DON'T THINK WICHITA STATE IS GOING TO HOLD ON TO THIS LEAD ISAAC POE OUT IN FRONT HE'S A GREAT 400M HURDLER >> Will: THEY LOOK FASTER! >> Cooper: HE'S GOING TO THROW — [ LAUGHTER ] THE DANGER ZONE IS WHAT HELPS, MAN ISAAC POE IS GOING TO PUT FORTH A GOOD EFFORT, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE BUTLER OVERTAKE THEM

BUTLER HAS GOT A SOLID TEAM THIS IS THEIR A-TEAM WICHITA STATE, WE DON'T HAVE EVERY BEST ATHLETE OUT THERE >> Will: RIGHT NOW THE SHOCKERS IN THE LEAD AT THIS MOMENT >> Cooper: I SAY KEEP YOUR EYE ON ADAM MUDGE

HE'S THE THIRD — THIS WILL BE HIS FIRST 4 X 400 OF HIS CAREER HE'S THE THIRD LEG HE RAN THE HURDLES EARLIER HE HASN'T RUN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN SO HE'S A LITTLE BIT COLD LET'S SEE HOW HIS INEXPERIENCE PLAYS

I HOPE HE RUNS SCARED THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE AND MAYBE HE TRIES TO ATTEMPT TO — >> Will: HE'S GOT LIGHTS ON HIS SHOES I DON'T SEE WHY HE COULDN'T WIN IT! >> Cooper: THE HIGHWAY TO THE DANGER ZONE >> Will: THE LA

GEARS I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE LA GEARS OR NOT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE WHEN I WORE THEM 25 YEARS AGO [ LAUGHTER ] >> Cooper: IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOTTEN OUT WELL

NOW, WHAT'S HARD IS HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW CLOSE THAT GUY IS BEHIND HIM ADAM IS NOT NEAR AS EXPERIENCED HE'S NOT AS RELAXED AS THE BUTLER I THINK ADAM WILL HOLD ON TO THIS LEAD SO LET'S SEE WHAT THE FOURTH LEG CAN DO

>> Will: THE FOURTH LEG WILL BE JACE COPPOC WILL BE YOUR FOURTH LEG HERE FOR WICHITA STATE THEY STARTED IN LANE 2 HERE HERE WE COME FOR THE FINAL BATON PASS HE'S CERTAINLY GIVEN UP A LOT OF DISTANCE SINCE WE SAW HIM LAST BUT HE'S GOING TO MAINTAIN THE LEAD, JUST BY NOT AS MUCH WICHITA STATE IS THE FIRST TEAM TO COMPLETE THE LAST BATON PASS HERE

>> Cooper: THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST POSITION THEY COULD BE IN AGAINST A TEAM LIKE BUTLER >> Will: YOU CAN SEE HE'S ABOUT TO BE PASSED JUST LIKE THAT IRING'S ABSOLUTELY >> Will: HOLY SMOKES! >> Cooper: I DOUBT WE'RE GOING TO SEE WICHITA STATE COME BACK >> Will: THAT BUTLER RUNNER REYNALDO GRIFFITH, TURN THE JETS ON

AND RIGHT NOW HE SEEMS TO BE IN CONTROL BUT YOU GOTTA GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE IN JACE COPPOC IS RIGHT ON HIS TAIL HE'S NOT LETTING UP SO HE'S VERY MUCH IN THIS RACE ON THE BACK TURN HE'S MAKING UP A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM RIGHT NOW

>> Cooper: AND HE'S PROBABLY KICKING TOO SOON, JACE IS THIS BUTLER — WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE BUTLER IS LOCKING UP >> Will: JACE HAS JUST TAKEN THE LEAD WICHITA STATE IS DOWN THE STRETCH! AND HE ABSOLUTELY DUSTS HIM DOES THE SHOCKERS THAT IS A TREMENDOUS RUN BY THE WICHITA STATE 4 X 400 RELAY TEAM

ADAM GAUZI, ISAAC POE, ADAM MUDGE AND JACE COPPOC COME OUT ON TOP DESPITE THE EXPERIENCE FROM BUTLER COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN THAT RACE YOU DID NOT SEE THAT COMING >> Cooper: I DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE THAT BUT AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT C TIMES BEING MISLEADING BUTLER IS IN HERE 6 SECONDS AHEAD OF EVERYBODY

SO IT'S BATED OFF OF PROBABLY LAST YEAR — BASED OFF OF PROBABLY LAST YEAR >> Will: THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS RACE FROM WICHITA STATE I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE MUSIC OR THE FINISH, BUT COMBINE THEM AND YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT — WE NEED — THIS NEEDS TO GO WORLDWIDE >> Cooper: YOU SEE THE FOURTH LEG HERE FROM BUTLER JUST LOCKING UP HE'S GRITTING HIS TEETH

TENSE IN HIS CHEST JACE COPPOC, NOT THAT HE'S NOT DOING THE SAME, HE IS GETTING TENSE, BUT HE RAN THE RACE WELL HE GOT OUT, HE WAS IN THE LEAD HE RELAXED HE DIDN'T FREAK OUT WHEN HE WAS OVERTAKEN

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE, IF YOU'RE INEXPERIENCED AND JACE HAS RUN A FEW OF THESE RACES HE'S FINE IN THIS RACE BUT IF YOU'RE INEXPERIENCED YOU START FREAKING OUT YOU WANT TO HOLD OFF THE GUY AND THEN YOU LOCK UP WHEN THEY LOCK UP AND THEN IT'S JUST KIND OF A DESPERATION ATTEMPT TO GET TO THE FINISH BEFORE >> Will: GRIFFITH WAS BREATHING HARD GOING INTO HIS FINAL LAP

THEN HE PUT IT ALL ON WHEN HE FIST GOT THE BATON AND IN ORDER TOPAZ WICHITA STATE ON HIS SECOND TURN HE PASSED JACE COPPOC QUITE HANDILY BUT IT WAS OBVIOUS HE RAN OUT OF ENERGY AND JUICE AS HE WAS BREATHING THROUGH HIS MOUTH A LITTLE BIT TOO SOON AND RONALDO GRIFFITH WAS JUST NOT ABLE TO HOLD ON FOR BUTLER

STILL NICE RUN BY THEM, BUT EXCELLENT BY WICHITA STATE >> Cooper: AND NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE THE RUNNERS IN THAT RACE >> Will: OH, TAKE IT ALL WAY WAY FROM THEM IRING'S BUT YOU TALK ABOUT COACHING SOME AND THERE'S A STRATEGY TO WHO YOU PUT WHERE

AND WITH ISAAC POE AND HIS EXPERIENCE, YES, YOU WANT JACE JACE IS PROBABLY THE FASTEST OF THOSE GUYS HE DOES HAVE EXPERIENCE BUT ISAAC POE, SENIOR, EXPERIENCE IN THE 400 400M HURDLES

YOU PUT A GUY LIKE THAT AT SECOND LEG SECOND LEG IS ONE OF THE HARDEST RACES — THE HARDEST LEGS TO RUN IN THAT RACE AND IN GIVING A SUBSTANTIAL LEAD TO THEM SET UP ADAM MUDGE REALLY, REALLY WELL SO THE ORDER OF THE ATHLETES, WHETHER IT WAS THEIR DECISION OR THE COACH'S DECISION, WHICH I BELIEVE IT WAS THE LATTER, WAS A GREAT RELAY >> Will: RIGHT NOW YOU'RE WATCHING THE WOMEN'S 4 X 800 RELAY

IN LANE 1 WE HAD OKLAHOMA BAPTIST STARTING AND THEN FRIENDS IN LANE 2 FOR FRIEND JUICE CHRISTA FOLLETTE RUNNING SAMANTHA MILLO MIRANDA TEN OVER AND — FOR TEAM B BETHANY BONATA, PAYTON REAVES AND KALIN ADA ALL RUNNING FOR FRIENDS

WICHITA STATE DOES NOT HAVE ANY ATHLETES COMPETING IN THIS RACE OR THE NEXT ONE FOR SECTION 2 >> Cooper: AND THIS IS AN UNOFFICIAL D-1 COMPETED RACE SO IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE IT'S HARD TO FIELD A WHOLE ENTIRE TEAM OF 800M RUNNERS WHO HAVEN'T ALREADY RUN THE 3K OR THE 800 OR THE 600 AND SO THIS IS A FUN RACE FOR THE OTHER TEAMS TO PREPARE FOR THEIR SEASON, SEE THEIR DEPTH AND TO SEE HOW THEY CAN COMPETE IN THAT EVENT, WHETHER IT'S NAIA OR IN THEIR CONFERENCE MEETS AT THE D-2, LEVEL AS WELL

>> Will: WE'RE NOW JOINED BY WICHITA STATE TRACK AND FIELD COACH JOHN WISE JOHN, WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN TODAY? YOU JOINED US ABOUT FIVE HOURS AGO >> YEAH HERE WE ARE AT 7:15 >> IT'S BEEN A QUICK FIVE HOURS

>> YEAH I'VE HAD COOPER HERE HOLDING MY HAND THROUGH THIS HE GOT A LITTLE HANDY AT THE 3:00 HOUR BUT WE'VE MANAGED AND WE'VE SURVIVED WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN FROM YOUR ATHLETES? ANYTHING STAND OUT IN PARTICULAR? >> WELL, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE, IF YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE TEAM SCORE, BUT OUR MEN ARE IN AN UNBELIEVABLY CLOSE BATTLE TO WIN THE MEET BUT WE DON'T HAVE A 4 X 800

>> Will: SO WHY DON'T YOU GET OUT THERE AND JUST RUN THE 4 X 800? >> WE GOTTA RECRUIT A FEW ATHLETES REAL QUICK THE TEAM SCORE, WE WEREN'T TRYING TO ENTER THE MEET TO WIN THE — TO WIN THE MEET ON THE MEN BUT I THINK THAT SHOWS YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MEN THAT AREN'T COMPETING AND A LOT OF YOUNG GUYS I THINK IT JUST SHOWS YOU HOW POWERFUL AND DEEP OUR MEN'S TEAM IS WHEN THEY CAN HAVE A GROUP LIKE THIS THAT IS BASICALLY WORKING ON SOME EVENTS HERE AND THERE AND SOME OF THESE OTHER TEAMS HAVE ENTERED THIS MEET IN A LOT OF EVENTS TRYING TO DO WELL IN THE TEAM SCORING SO THAT'S I THINK THE FIRST THING I LOOK AT

THE SCORE DOES TELL US SOMETHING IS THAT OUR MEN'S TEAM HAD A GREAT MEET ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD PERFORMANCES I'M ASSUMING YOU PROBABLY SAW A LOT OF GIRLS RUNNING UNATTACHED WITH WICHITA STATE IN THOSE RESULTS THAT DID REALLY WELL, WON SOME EVENTS AND EVEN I KNOW REBEKAH TOPHAM BROKE A MEET RECORD IN THERE AND SO THAT'S TO BE COMMENDED

AND IN OUR GIRLS THAT ARE IN UNIFORM DID REALLY WELL, TOO SO I THINK IT'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD STUFF NOT EVERYTHING GREAT THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME THINGS NOT JUST IN TERMS OF MAYBE A BAD PERFORMANCE BUT MAYBE SOME TECHNICAL THINGS TO WORK ON OR MAYBE SOME FRUSTRATIONS EARLY IN THE YEAR THAT YOU GOTTA WORK THROUGH IN AN ATHLETE WHEN YOU HAVEN'T COMPETED FOR A YEAR OR SIX MONTHS BASICALLY SO WE SEE A LOT OF THOSE

I LOOK AT THOSE AS OPPORTUNITIES TO COACH YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE — ANY TIME THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT I ALWAYS TELL THE ATHLETE THERE'S A NEGATIVE THING WE CAN LEARN FROM IT AND SO WE DON'T HAVE IT HAPPEN AGAIN AND WHEN IT'S GOING GREAT THERE'S NOT MUCH TO SAY HEY, GREAT JOB, ON TO THE NEXT THING

SO I DON'T MIND EARLY IN THE SEASON HAVING THOSE TEACHING MOMENTS AND COACHING MOMENTS >> Will: BETTER TO HAVE THEM NOW >> EXACTLY WE'VE HAD A FEW OF THOSE WE'VE DEFINITELY HAD A FEW OF THOSE TODAY

THAT'S OKAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE IN THE FIRST MEET OF THE YEAR LIKE THIS TO ACE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH >> DEJAYOUNG, ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR ATHLETES ON CAMPUS SHE CAME UP LAME — NOT LAME

BUT PULLED UP IN ONE OF HER RACES WHAT HAPPENED THERE? >> SHE WON OTHER PRELIMINARY RACE AND WAS LOOKING GOOD HEADING INTO THE FINALS SHE DID NOT GET A PARTICULARLY GOOD START STUMBLED A LITTLE BIT >> Will: COOPER CALLED IT

>> SHE LOST HER MOMENTUM AND WHEN SHE LOST HER MOMENTUM SHE GOT A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED AND JUST KIND OF BACKED OFF A BIT THAT WAS A COACHING MOMENT BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS YOU GOTTA RUN HARD TO THE FINISH LINE DIDN'T HURT US IN THE MEET LIKE THIS YOU KNOW BUT IT'S THE SAME THING WE TALKED ABOUT

IT'S LESSONS FOR DOWN THE ROAD AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND SHE UNDERSTOOD AND SHE FEW AND I DON'T THINK SHE'LL DO THAT AGAIN BUT SHE'S A GOOD ATHLETE SHE'S GOING TO RUN ON SATURDAY, SO SHE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY REALLY QUICKLY TO COME BACK AND REDEEM HERSELF IN THE 60 AND 200 ON SATURDAY IN MANHATTAN

>> WE HAD COACH STEVE RAINBOLT UP HERE EARLIER HE SEEMED POSITIVELY INFLUENCED BY WHAT HE'S SEEN PARTICULARLY FROM THE MEN'S SIDE AS WELL THAT 4 X 400 THAT WE JUST WATCHED ON THE MEN'S SIDE THAT YOU GUYS WON >> THAT WAS FUN >> Will: DID YOU EXPECT THAT? >> WELL, RIGHT BEFORE THE RACE, I WENT OVER TO OUR MARKETING PERSON

I SAID LET'S CRANK UP SOME MUSIC FOR THIS >> YEAH WHY SO LATE? WE THOUGHT THIS IS KIND OF A TRADITION IN THE END OF THE MEET IN THE 4 X 400 IF WE DO IT THE WHOLE MEET IT KIND OF DROWNS OUT 4 X 400, IT'S KIND OF A FUN WAY TO END THE MEET

THOSE ARE — THERE'S THREE GUYS ON THAT TEAM THAT AREN'T GOING TO RUN SATURDAY SO THEY'RE NOT IN OUR TOP 26 SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, THOSE ARE KIND OF B GUYS I GUESS YOU'D CALL THEM NOW, ISAAC POE IS A REALLY GOOD 400 HURDLER HE RAN ON THAT

BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE AN INDOOR EVENT IN OUR TOP 26 OUR LEAD GUY IS GOING TO RUN ON SATURDAY BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S SOME GUYS THAT ARE NOT ALL OF OUR TOP ATHLETES SO THAT'S EXCITING THEY DIDN'T RUN A SUPER FAST TIME BUT THEY COMPETED WELL

WE HAD A COUPLE FRESHMEN IN THERE THEIR FIRST 4 X 400 THAT WAS FUN SAME WITH THE GIRLS IN THE RACE BEFORE THAT THAT RAN UNATTACHED THERE WERE SOME YOU GIRLS IN THAT

BUT JUST THROW TOGETHER SOME GIRLS IN A RED SHIRT AND WIN A 4 X 400 THAT'S AN IMPRESSIVE FEAT >> Cooper: YOU MENTIONED THE FRESHMEN, THOUGH WHAT DO YOU TELL A FRESHMAN AT THEIR FIRST COLLEGIATE MEET AFTER THEY RUN A RACE? MAYBE IT'S NOT SUCH GREAT RESULT BUT IT'S HARD TO COMPARE WITH HIGH SCHOOL AND THOSE THINGS WHAT ARE YOU TELLING THEM? >> YOU KNOW, TO BE PATIENT AND THAT THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS

WE TALKED EARLIER IN THE YEAR THAT FRESHMAN YEAR IS GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF UPS AND DOWNS AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LEARNING YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACKWARD A LITTLE BIT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TIMES WHERE YOU GO BACKWARDS AND WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WHAT DID WE NOT DO WELL? WE FILM EVERY RACE WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT FOOTAGE OBVIOUSLY HERE WE FILM ERR RACE AND GO BACK AND ANALYZE IT AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN

WE'LL WATCH IT AS SOON AS TO BE AND START OAKING ABOUT THOSE — TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS MOSTLY WITH FRESHMEN IT'S JUST KEEPING THEIR MIND-SET CONSISTENT AND NOT TOO UP AND DOWN AND EMOTIONAL IN YOUR — FOR SOME OF THEM, THIS IS THE BIGGEST MEET THEY'VE EVER RUN IN AND YOU KNOW, COOPER, AS A FORMER ATHLETE, BY THE TIME YOU'RE A SENIOR, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER OLD MEET BUT FOR A FRESHMAN, FIRST TIME UNDER THE LIGHTS AND THE UNIFORM IT'S KIND OF A BIG DEAL

KIND OF LIKE A PRE-SEASON BASKETBALL GAME GUYS ARE INTIMIDATED BY THE CROWD AT KOCH ARENA SOMETIMES YOU'RE INTIMIDATED BY THE SENSE OF A FIRST TIME OF A COLLEGE MEET TOO EMOTIONAL AND TOO HYPED UP WE'LL GET RIGHT BACK AT IT WHETHER SATURDAY CONNECTION WEEK GOING TO THE AIR FORCE ACADEMY AND FOR THOSE ATHLETES TO KIND OF START WORKING ON THAT EMOTIONAL SIDE

TRACK AND FIELD IS VERY MENTAL THERE'S SO MANY UPS AND DOWNS AND WE'RE ALWAYS CONSTANTLY PREACHING BEING CONSISTENT >> Will: AND THE MENTALITY >> Will: JOHN WISE JOINING US FROM WICHITA STATE'S TRACK AND FIELD COACHING STAFF WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN FROM THE MEN'S SIDE OR THE — I GUESS FROM THE WOMEN'S SIDE, SO MANY UNATTACHED ATHLETES ARE RUNNING

BUT WE SAW A LOT OF THOSE NAMES AT THE TOP OF THE LEADER BOARD AS WELL IT'S GOT TO BE ENCOURAGING TO SEE GIRLS THAT AREN'T REALLY PARTICIPATING YET, THEY'RE WINNING >> YEAH YOU GOTTA KEEP IN MIND THE COMPETITION SO WE ARE COMPETING AGAINST D-2 SCHOOL, NAI — NAI, SCHOOLS

WE EXPECT WE'RE GOING TO WIN AND DOMINATE SOME OF THOSE EVENTS OUR STANDARD IS PRETTY HIGH WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD A TEAM TO WIN THE AMERICAN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP AND ON OUR WOMEN, LIKE I'M SURE COACH RAINBOLT TALKED ABOUT WITH YOU, WE'RE BUILDING THAT TEAM RIGHT NOW WE THINK AS SOON AS NEXT YEAR OUR WOMEN ARE GOING TO — THERE'S A LOT OF THESE WOMEN RUNNING UNATTACHED TODAY, THEY'RE GOING TO COMPETE AND SCORE WELL AND HELP US HOPEFULLY WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP NEXT YEAR THIS YEAR, THEY'RE REAL YOUNG

AND WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE WAYS TO GO SO BUT YEAH I THINK WE'RE IMPRESSED WHEN YOU'RE UNATTACHED, RED-SHIRTING, SOMETIMES THERE'S A SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S NOT AS IMPORTANT OR MAYBE THE FOCUS ISN'T THERE BUT I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THE LADIES ESPECIALLY TODAY

AND WE GOT THAT GROUP TOGETHER YESTERDAY AND TALKED ABOUT THAT AND MADE SURE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA FOCUS HARD THE EXPECTATION IS JUST AS HIGH IF YOU HAVE A UNIFORM ON OR NOT I THINK THE LADIES DID A REALLY GOOD JOB THE 4 X 400 IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO PUT SOME GIRLS TO RUN A 4 X 400 AT THE END OF THE MEET AND THEY RUN IT SPIRITED AND WIN THE MEET, COMING FROM BEHIND THAT WAS DAYSHA IN THE OPEN 400 WASN'T ABLE TO GET THE GIRL IN THE FINISH

IN THIS ONE SHE WENT A LITTLE EARLIER, LEARNED FROM IT AND PASSED THE GIRL TO WIN THE RACE SO YEAH THERE WERE SOME GUYS THAT RAN UNATTACHED, A LOT OF MULTI GUYS THAT COACH RAINBOLT IS WORKING ON THE FUTURE AND — OUR MEN, A LOT OF GUYS IN UNIFORM RAN WELL WE SCORED 130 SOME POINTS IN THIS MEET

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD FOR THE GROUP WE HAD COMPETING TODAY IT'S EXCITING FUN TO BE AT HOME WE HAD A NICE CROWD AND I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD WAY TO START OUR YEAR

WE'RE EXCITED FOR SATURDAY GO TO MANHATTAN AND OTOGO TO BATTLE AGAINST THE JAYHAWKS AND WILDCATS IN A LITTLE INTERSTATE RIVALRY ACTION >> Cooper: IT'S PROBABLY TOO EARLY IN THE SEASON TO TELL BUT HOW DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WILL FARE INDOOR VS OUTDOOR? >> WE GENERALLY FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A BETTER OUTDOOR TEAM

YOU SAW A COUPLE GUYS IN THE 200, AUSTIN CORLEY AND ISAAC POE THEY'RE 400 HURDLERS, RUNNING SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT, SOME SPEED WORK TODAY AND IF YOU SAW AUSTIN CORLEY, HE WON THE EVENT FIRST EVER TIME, HE WINS THE EVENT OVERALL, BEATING SOME REALLY GOOD SPRINTERS THAT WE HAD AND SO THOSE ARE GUYS THAT INDOOR THE EVENTS AREN'T REALLY THEIR STYLE

YOU KNOW THEY'RE 400 HURDLERS, THERE'S NO 400 HURDLE INDOOR EVENT THAT WOULD BE A WILD EVENT THAT WOULD BE AN EVENT YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN BACK — WOULD BE DONE BACK IN THE DAY IT'S NOT A CONFERENCE EVENT

SO 60 HURDLES IS A LITTLE SHORT FOR THOSE GUYS SO WE KNOW WITH THE 400 HURDLES AND WITH THE JAVELIN IS A BIG EVENT FOR WICHITA STATE AND THE TRADITION OF KANSAS HIGH SCHOOL JAVELIN THROWING WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT JAVELIN THROWERS AND COACH HUT HUT IS A TERRIFIC COACH THOSE TWO ATLANTAS ARE GOING TO PILE UP SOME POINTS FOR US THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE INDOOR SO IF WE CAN GET CLOSE INDOOR, IF WE CAN BATTLE FOR A TITLE, IF WE CAN BE WITHIN SHOUTING DISTANCE INDOOR, WE KNOW OUTDOOR WE HAVE THAT HEAD-START ALMOST ON THE REST OF THE TEAMS

WE'RE DONE WELL IN THE MISSOURI VALLEY THAT WAY, IN THE AMERICAN I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DOMINATE THOSE EVENTS JUST AS WELL >> Will: HOW BIG IS IT FOR A FRESHMAN — YOU MENTIONED THIS IS THEIR FIRST TIME, THE BRIGHT LIGHTS, THE CROWD, YOU KNOW, COMPETING AGAINST A HIGHER LEVEL OF COMPETITION THEY'RE THE BEST AT WHAT THEY DID AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL HERE THEIR NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE THE BEST HECK, THEY MIGHT BE ONE OF THE WORST OUT HERE THEIR FIRST MEET

HOW BIG IS IT FOR THEM THAT THEY GET OUT HERE AND GET EXPERIENCE, BUT SOME OF THEM THAT WIN? WHAT THAT DOES TO THEIR CONFIDENCE GOING FORWARD? >> YEAH IT'S A HUGE CONFIDENCE BOOSTER I CAN REMEMBER I WAS A PRETTY GOOD HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETE, I WENT TO A SMALL SCHOOL AND WON MOST RACES I WENT MY WHOLE ENTIRE COLLEGE CAREER AND WON ONE RACE I RAN WAY FASTER THAN I DID IN HIGH SCHOOL

BUT UJUST WAS RUNNING AGAINST BETTER COMPETITION AND IT'S HARD TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE YOU WANT TO WIN YOU'RE COMPETITIVE YOU WANT TO WIN RACES AND YOU MIGHT RUN A PERSONAL BEST OR CLOSE TO PERSONAL BEST AND GET LAST PLACE OR NOT MAKE THE FINALS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT

AND THAT'S WHERE A COACH'S JOB IS TO COME IN AND UNDERSTAND THAT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID YOU RUN THIS TIME LAST YEAR 234 YOUR FIRST MEET OF 2 YEAR >> Translator: AND SOME OF THE HALL KIDS DIDN'T RUN ANYTHING THEY WERE PLAYING BASKETBALL OR NOT EVEN COMPETING IN THAT TIME OF THE YEAR SO IT'S OUR JOB TO EDUCATE THEM, TO PUT A POSITIVE SPIN ON IT AND IF THEY DIDN'T DO WELL, HEY, THIS IS KIND OF MAYBE A SLAP IN THE FACE TO WE GOTTA — WE GOT SOME WORK TO DO, YOU KNOW

MAYBE THEY'RE COMING OFF AN INJURY OR WHATEVER, THAT THE WINTER TRAINING WAS TOUGH, THE TRAIN OUT IN THE SNOW AND ICE, YOU KNOW, AND DAYS LIKE TODAY THAT ARE OUTSIDE AND SO EITHER WAY, THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN GAIN FROM IT, WE LEARN FROM IT, BE POSITIVE BUT GAINING CONFIDENCE IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING SATURDAY FOR SOME OF THOSE ATHLETES, IT WILL BE A, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T RUN WELL, IF THEY'RE NOT READY AND DON'T RUN WELL, IT WILL BE A ROUGH MEET BECAUSE THERE'S SOME REALLY HIGH LEVEL COMPETITION WITH KU AND K-STATE THEN ON INTO NEXT WEEK WITH AIR FORCE IS ANOTHER TERRIFIC MEET AT THE AIR FORCE ACADEMY

BRIGHAM YOUNG IN COLORADO STATE SO WE'RE GOING TO BE — THOSE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD TRACK AND FIELD PROGRAMS AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DOWNS AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE THERE TO PICK THEM UP NEBRASKA IS A MEET THAT WE'VE GONE TO TRADITIONALLY NEXT WEEK, WE'RE GOING TO AIR FORCE AND IT LEADS THE YEAR IN TEARS I WOULD SAY BECAUSE THAT'S THE — EARLY IN THE SEASON, WE GO UP THERE, WE GET PUMPED A LITTLE BIT

AND THEY'RE JUST NOT EXPECTING THAT AND THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN AND WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT, WE GOTTA GET READY MONDAY FOR PRACTICE AND NOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN SO — WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEBRASKA THIS YEAR >> A THERAPIST >> I DID GET A MINOR IN PSYCHOLOGY IN COLLEGE

THANK GOODNESS I DID >> Cooper: WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COULD BE GREAT PATIENTS >> YEAH IF THE COACHING THING DOESN'T WORK OUT, I HAVE NO PROBLEM [ LAUGHTER ] >> Cooper: SO TALK ABOUT SATURDAY

I KNOW WE HAVE 26, MORE ABOUT THE MEN'S SIDE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT COMPETE IN THE CONFERENCE BUT HOW DO YOU GUYS MEASURE UP SPECIFICALLY WITH KU, K-STATE? >> YEAH YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD REALLY CLOSE MEETS WITH KU AND K-STATE IN RECENT YEARS THE FIRST, SO FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN WE WENT THERE FOR THIS MEET, IT'S GONE AROUND THE THREE SCHOOLS AND NOW IT'S BACK TO K-STATE

WE LOST BY ONE POINT ON THE MEN TO K-STATE AND KU WAS THIRD AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR, KU WAS FIRST AND WE WERE SECOND, AND K-STATE WAS THIRD AND SO YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN REAL CLOSE OUR MEN HAVE BEEN REAL CLOSE

I THINK WE HAVE TEAMS THAT CAN MATCH UP WITH THEM WE HAVE STRENGTHS, THEY HAVE STRENGTHS YOU KNOW IN A MEET LIKE THAT, EVERY POINT COUNTS THERE'S ONLY SIX PLACES THAT SCORE, BUT ONLY THREE TEAMS

SO ALL THE POINTS ARE REALLY CLOSE AND JOSTLE AROUND SO THAT WILL BE I THINK EXCITING FOR OUR MEN I THINK WE CAN WIN THE MEET IF WE HAVE A GOOD MEET AND WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, YOU SAW SOME PERFORMANCES TODAY BUT WE'VE GOT SOME SUPERSTARS THAT WERE NOT HERE TODAY AND THEY'RE OUT HERE GOING, MAN, I KIND OF WISH I'D HAVE DONE SOMETHING TODAY

WE'RE LIKE THAT'S ALL RIGHT, SAVE IT FOR SATURDAY THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REALLY GOING TO NEED IT HUNTER VEITH WALKING AROUND, ONE OF THE BEST ATHLETES IN THE NATION JARED BELARDO, THE BEST FRESHMAN IN THE NATION A COUPLE YEARS AGO A GUY WHO MIGHT BE AS GOOD AS HIM, ALLEN, GETTING READY TO DEBUT ON SATURDAY NOT TO MENTION SOME DISTANCE RUNNERS THAT DIDN'T RUN AND SOME SPRINTERS

SO IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITING WE DON'T GO UP THERE AND FEEL INFERIOR AT ANY MOMENT WE WALK IN THERE THINKING WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS MEET AND I THINK THAT'S HOW OUR MEN FEEL THEY'VE WON FOUR CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS IN A ROW

SO THEY'RE FULL OF DVD THEY'RE WALKING UP THERE AND — FULL OF CONFIDENCE THEY'RE WALKING INTO THAT ARENA, AHEARN ALENA WHERE THEY USED TO PLAY BASKETBALL BACK IN THE DAY AN OLD HISTORIC ARENA BUILT 100 YEARS AGO AND THEY THINK THE BATHROOMS LOOK LIKE LITTLE JUNIOR HIGH BATHROOM KIND OF DEAL

AND JUST KIND OF A FUN ENVIRONMENT FOR TRACK MEETS SO I KNOW OUR GUYS ARE GOING TO BE READY THEY'RE EXCITED THIS WAS A GOOD PLAY FOR SOME OF THEM TO DO SOMETHING TODAY MOSTLY THE YOUNG KIDS SO THEY CAN HAVE A LITTLE CONFIDENCE HEADING INTO SATURDAY

>> Will: IS THERE A CONFIDENCE FACTOR? YOU KNOW YOU SEE ON THEIR JERSEYS THE A ON THEIR BACK VERSUS THE VALLEY IS THERE ANY SORT OF MIND-SET THAT KIND OF, HEY, I'M COMPETING IN THE AMERICAN NOW, THAT'S NOW SEATED IN PHILADELPHIA, TULSA, AND DOWN IN HOUSTON SOME BIG CITIES VERSUS, NO DISRESPECT, TERRE HAUTE >> I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT I'M NOT SURE AS MUCH AS THERE WILL BE ONCE WE GO TO A COUPLE OF THOSE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS AND MAYBE TRAVEL TO A COUPLE OF THOSE CITIES

WE'RE GOING TO CINCINNATI IN THE OUTDOOR SEASON THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HAVE A CHAMPIONSHIP MEET SO I THINK RIGHT NOW THE FOCUS IS MORE ON US, AND NOT ABOUT THAT YET BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN UNKNOWN IT'S REALLY STRANGE FOR SOME OF OUR UPPER CLASSMEN WHO HAVE BEEN IN A CERTAIN CONFERENCE FOR SO LONG AND NOW THEY'RE TOTALLY CHANGING OUR CONVERSATION EVERY WEEK I MEAN I MISSPOKE EARLIER

COACH RAINBOLT EVERY WEEK SAYS THE MISSOURI VALLEY INSTEAD OF THE AMERICAN IT'S JUST WE'RE STILL ADJUSTING TO IT >> RIGHT >> SO I THINK THERE'S SOME OF THAT OUR DEPARTMENT I THINK HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OF PRIDE OUT OF THAT

AND SO I THINK WATCHING OUR BASKETBALL TEAM OR OUR VOLLEYBALL TEAM DO SO WELL IN THE FALL HAS BEEN GOOD, YOU KNOW, THAT OUR KIDS HAVE LEARNED ABOUT THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I THINK MORE THAN — MORE THAN FEELING CONFIDENT, IT'S JUST I THINK WE'RE EXCITED IS PROBABLY A BETTER WORD FOR OUR TEAM >> Will: I THINK THERE'S SOME SWAGGER THAT BELONGS, TOO >> THERE CAN BE

>> Will: I WENT TO NORTHWESTERN I KNOW AS A BIG TEN GUY, WE WEREN'T IN THE PLAYOFFS THIS YEAR AND I HAD TO HEAR ABOUT IT FROM A BUNCH OF PEOPLE FROM A FOOTBALL STANDPOINT BUT YOU CARRY YOUR VEIL AROUND WITH WHATEVER YOU HAVE, BIG TEN OR WHETHER YOU'RE SEC AND I THINK THE AMERICAN BRINGS THAT LEVEL OF SWAGGER TO A LOT OF THE ATHLETES >> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, THIS IS TRACK AND FIELD

AND THE MENTALITY OF TRACK AND FIELD KIDS IS A LITTLE MORE BLUE COLLAR >> YEAH >> AND YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COACH RAINBOLT MAKES THIS COMMENT A LOT HE GOES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TELEVASING THIS MEET THIS IS AWESOME

YOU GUYS ARE DOING A SPECTACULAR JOB I'VE WATCHED SOME OF THE FOOTAGE ACTUALLY ON THE INFIELD IT'S GREAT >> Will: GO ON DON'T STOP THERE

>> AND YOU LOOK GREAT, BY THE WAY [ LAUGHTER ] NOT SO MUCH COOPER BUT LUCKILY WHAT WAS IT BUT ANYWAYS, MAN I JUST TOTALLY LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT

>> Will: THAT'S ALL RIGHT YOU CAN STAY ON THAT TRACK >> BLUE COLLAR THANK CREW SO WE TALK ABOUT THE GLORY ISN'T IN THE ESPN HIGHLIGHT FOR US

THE GLORY ISN'T ALWAYS IN THE NEWSPAPER HEADLINE THE GLORY IS IN WHEN YOU CROSS THE FINISH LINE AT THE TRACK MEET OR WHEN YOU THROW THE SHOT PUT OR YOU CLEAR THE BAR IN THE POLE VAULT THAT'S THE GLORY SO THOSE OTHER THINGS AREN'T AS IMPORTANT IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING IN THE MOMENT AND BEING HERE

I'VE SEEN SOME EXCITEMENT HERE WHERE KIDS WERE EXCITED TO WIN THE RACE OR MADE THE HIGH JUMP BAR AND THERE'S SOME FIST PUMPING THAT'S WHAT WE PROMOTE A LOT NOW, I THINK IN TRACK AND FIELD GROWING UP, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE KIND OF USED TO THAT KIND OF A MENTALITY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M HERE, MY MOM AND DAD SAW ME RUN AND THAT'S GOING TO GET ME EXCITED AND THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW

AND SO THE TELEVISION AND THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND ALL THIS STUFF ISN'T AS IMPORTANT TO — OR ISN'T AS BIG A PART OF THE EQUATION, SO I THINK THERE IS SWAGGER I THINK OUR SWAGGER COMES FROM JUST BEING SUCCESSFUL AND I DO THINK IF WE GO AND WIN THAT CONFERENCE OR COMPETE WELL IN OUR CONFERENCE WE'LL DEFINITELY WALK AROUND WITH MORE OF A SWAGGER AROUND TOWN >> Cooper: YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE GOING TO CINCINNATI FOR CONFERENCE

IS THAT INDOOR OR OUTDOOR? >> THAT'S OUTDOOR >> Cooper: ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO ANY OTHER NEW LOCATIONS THIS YEAR? DIFFERENT MEETS TO CHALLENGE YOURSELF? >> THE INDOOR CONFERENCE MEETS IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA THAT'S NOT ONE OF OUR CONFERENCE SCHOOLS, BUT THERE'S AN ARENA THERE THAT HOSTS THE AMERICAN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP EVERY YEAR SO THAT WILL BE NEW IT WILL BE A BANK TRACK

WE USUALLY DON'T RUN ON A BANK TRACK AT OUR CONFERENCE MEET MOST TRACKS ARE LIKE OURS, FLAT TRACKS BUT THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE ON BANK TRACK SO THAT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT I'D SAY THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS, OTHER THAN THAT OUR SCHEDULE IS VERY SIMILAR, INDOOR WE'RE GOING TO GO TO AIR FORCE

WE'VE BEEN TO AIR FORCE A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE GOING TO HOST A COUPLE MEETS WE'RE GOING TO GET READY FOR, YOU KNOW, LAST COUPLE WEEKS OF THE SEASON WITH PITT STATE AND ARKANSAS WE DID THAT LAST YEAR AND THEN HEAD TO THE CONFERENCE MEAT

OUTDOOR, VERY SIMILAR WE ALWAYS MIX IT UP A LITTLE BIT, NOT BECAUSE OF OUR CONFERENCE BUT BECAUSE WE WANT TO GO TO DIFFERENT PLACES WE'VE GONE TO OREGON IN THE PAST WE'VE GONE TO CALIFORNIA OR TEXAS RELAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE TEXAS TECH WE WENT TO LAST YEAR

WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN AND JUST TO MIX IT UP A LITTLE BIT TO GIVE THE KIDS A LITTLE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE BUT THE CONFERENCE MEETS ARE REALLY THE ONLY CHANGES I SEE AS A — AS OUR SCHEDULE BUT THOSE ARE — THEY'RE THE TWO MOST SIGNIFICANT MEETS AS A TEAM WE HAVE SO THAT WILL MAKE IT FEEL DIFFERENT

WE'RE GOING TO BE FLYING TO THOSE MEETS INSTEAD OF ON A BUS SO EVEN THAT WILL BE A DIFFERENCE >> Will: IT'S GOT TO BE NICE TO FLY >> Cooper: DOES THAT LIMIT YOUR ROSTER YOU CAN TAKE, THEN, THE FLIGHTS VERSUS THE BUS TRIPS? >> KIND OF WE USUALLY TAKE A LARGE GROUP OF SUPPORTERS, WE TRY TO

BUT WHEN WE FLY WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT LIKE WE DO ON A BUS YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO — >> Cooper: ATHLETE SUPPORTERS? >> CORRECT WE KIND OF TREAT THOSE — THERE'S A LIMITED ROSTER FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP MEET AT THE CONFERENCE AND SO WE KIND OF TREAT THAT LAKE A BALL GAME WHERE SOME OF THE OTHER ATHLETES, MAYBE SOME OF THE FRESHMEN THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP CAN GO SEE IT SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE CONTRIBUTORS IN THE FUTURE AND HOPEFULLY BE READY TO HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THAT CHAMPIONSHIP ATMOSPHERE IS LIKE

SO AS WE'RE FINISHING UP THE MEET IT LOOKS LIKE BEHIND US >> I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, EVERYONE IS LEAVING THE SHOW IS NOT OVER >> Cooper: I DON'T KNOW WHO WON THAT RACE IT LOOKED LIKE EMPORIA DID

>> WE NEED TO CHECK THE FINAL TEAM SCORES SEE WHAT THE FINAL MEN'S TEAM SCORES ARE >> Will: THAT WILL BE MAGNIFICENT IF YOU WIN THAT DIDN'T COME IN EXPECTING OR — >> WE ACTUALLY DID — US TRACK NERDS EVEN DO LOOK AT THIS STUFF FOR A MEAT LIKE THIS HERE'S THE TEAM SCORES

OH MAN WE ENDED UP WINNING! SO THAT'S AWESOME! [ LAUGHTER ] AND SO CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR MEN WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE WE CAN'T CELEBRATE TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE HAVE PRACTICE TOMORROW AND A TRACK MEET SATURDAY >> Will: WHAT TIME IS PRACTICE TOMORROW? >> WE'LL BE PRACTICING IN THE AFTERNOON TOMORROW

>> EXACTLY SO YOU CAN PRACTICE ALL YOU WANT CELEBRATE ALL YOU WANT HERE'S THE WOMEN OBU ON TOP 151

5 SHOCKERS COME IN WITH 82 POINTS THEY WERE LEADING AWHILE, BUT TOO MANY UNATTACHED ATHLETES IF YOU A TALLY POINTS, NOT THAT YOU DO OR CAN, BUT IF YOU TALLY POINTS OF UNATTACHED ATHLETES I THINK SHOCKERS WOULD BE RIGHT UP THERE WITH ANYONE ELSE >> I'M PROUD OF FRIENDS UNIVERSITY

THEY CHALLENGED FOR THE WIN CONGRATULATIONS TO COACH COLE DAVIS FOR GETTING THE RUNNER-UP SPOT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A GREAT TEAM TO WATCH IF YOU'RE A FAN OF WICHITA TRACK AND FIELD, DEFINITELY DON'T FORGET ABOUT FRIENDS UNIVERSITY THEY HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING ATHLETES OUT THERE

>> THERE'S SOME GREAT TRACK AND FIELD PROGRAMS JUST IN THIS GENERAL AREA WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRIANGULAR WITH K-STATE AND KU THEN YOU GUYS OF COURSE BUT FRIENDS AND SOME OF THESE OTHER SCHOOLS WITH BUTLER THEIR SPRINTING

THEY PUT ON AN UNBELIEVABLE SHOW TODAY ALL THE ATHLETES DID >> YEAH AND THE KT WOMEN IN APRIL IS AN OUTDOOR MEET WHERE ALMOST EVERYBODY COMES THERE'S LIKE 40 COLLEGES

KT WOODMAN >> Will: THAT'S A HUGE ONE >> A HIGH SCHOOL MEET BUT THE COLLEGE MEET IS SO COMPETITIVE SOME OF THE HEATS IN THAT ARE NATIONAL LEVEL HEATS YOU SEE GUYS RUNNING 10 FLAT 100, LONG JUMPING 26 FEAT AND JUST RIDICULOUS STUFF

SO ALL THESE JUNIOR COLLEGES AND NAIA SCHOOLS AND DIVISION-II SCHOOLS COME TO THAT MEET AND IT MAKES FOR A TERRIFIC COMPETITION AND A LOT OF FUN FOR OUR ATHLETES >> Will: ALL IN ALL I'D SAY TODAY WAS A GOOD DAY >> YEAH VERY GOOD DAY AND SOMETHING TO BUILD ON AND I THINK WE CAME OUT HEALTHY, WHICH WAS ANOTHER BIG PART

I DIDN'T SEE — WE HAD A COUPLE KIDS NOT FINISH A RACE I KNOW ONE OF MINE DIDN'T IN THE HURDLES BUT SHE WAS OKAY SHE JUST GOT A LITTLE BIT BUMPED AND BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE DID COME OUT HEALTHY

YOU WORRY ABOUT EARLY SEASON SPRINTING THINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SPRINTED MUCH IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND YOU WORRY ABOUT A HAMSTRING STRAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT I'M PRETTY SURE — >> Will: COMING OFF BREAK, TOO, CANNOT BE EASY >> ABSOLUTELY FINDING A PLACE TO SPRINT IS NOT EASY IF YOU DON'T VAN INDOOR FACILITY — HAVE AN INDOOR FACILITY

YOU SPRINT IN A YMCA, BUT THERE'S MAYBE NOT A TRACK, YOU KNOW SO IT'S DIFFICULT BUT I THINK THAT WAS A VERY POSITIVE TO COME OUT OF THIS EARLY SEASON MEET, TOO >> Will: I ASSUME YOU WOULD AGREE GOOD DAY FOR A SHOCKER? >> Cooper: A GREAT DAY TO BE A SHOCKER

>> Will: EVERY DAY IS A GREAT DAY TO BE A SHOCKER >> DON'T FORGET ON PACE WITH SHOCKER TRACK AND FIELD WILL BE COMING OUT SOON ALL THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE MEET AND I'LL PROBABLY SEE SOME OF YOU GUYS ON THERE, TOO

APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING THIS THIS WAS FANTASTIC >> Will: IT'S BEEN A BLAST A GREAT FIVE HOURS WE'RE GOING TO WRAP IT UP NOW

FOR COOPER, JOHN, I'M WILL KUNKEL AND JENNY PINKSTON IS OUT THERE SOMEWHERE TALKING TO SOME MORE ATHLETES THANK YOU, GUYS HAVE A SAFE, PLEASANT AND BLESSED WEEKEND GOOD NIGHT!